Advice please, stuck with a lemon on Finance.
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MG CHRIS said:
feef said:
MG CHRIS said:
Its not so much the car more the choice of engine the tdci engine are the worst diesel engine of all time built by the French why ford ever decided to use them is beyond me.
The DLD-416 used in this car was built in the UKThe DLD engines were a joint venture between PSA and Ford and are used in PSA group cars, Fords, Minis, Mazdas and volvos and are made 50/50 between Ford (plants in Dagenham and India) and PSA in France
This particular engine is UK made
Roverload said:
Update: Garage did a quote to repair. In order for the warrantee to be honoured it needs alot of other parts and tests. The quote I've been given came to £1800. Complaint filed with the finance company. They say we should receive a reply within.... 4 weeks. 
My parts suppliers had this engine in one of their vans, as they supply car parts for a living, when ther turbo went, they ordered the bucket load of parts required to sort it. 900 miles later it broke again. They scrapped a 5 year old van in the end.Just to throw a spanner in the works, if the turbo has gone it is game over.
We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
Jimmyarm said:
Just to throw a spanner in the works, if the turbo has gone it is game over.
We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
Bit of a thread hijack, but would it be possible to 'drop' a 2.0 lump into the body. The engines appear to be pretty similar. Anyone any experience of this. It seems to 2.0 does mega miles.We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
bearman68 said:
Jimmyarm said:
Just to throw a spanner in the works, if the turbo has gone it is game over.
We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
Bit of a thread hijack, but would it be possible to 'drop' a 2.0 lump into the body. The engines appear to be pretty similar. Anyone any experience of this. It seems to 2.0 does mega miles.We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
I tried dropping a standard 2.0 8v engine into a 1.6 Hdi Pug, and this didn't work. Predominantly the design of the earlier engine was not compatable with the later one - starter motor in a different place, EGR and piping issues, ECU software - you name it, it was wrong.
However, the EGR and pipework arrangements on the 2 engines are very similar as far as I can see, and I suspect the starter motor, injection pump etc etc is all the same. There may be a bit of exhaust fiddling, and I suspect the gearbox and drive shafts would need to come from the bigger engine, but, it might be worth a longer look, especially if you can do it yourself.
Best of luck.
However, the EGR and pipework arrangements on the 2 engines are very similar as far as I can see, and I suspect the starter motor, injection pump etc etc is all the same. There may be a bit of exhaust fiddling, and I suspect the gearbox and drive shafts would need to come from the bigger engine, but, it might be worth a longer look, especially if you can do it yourself.
Best of luck.
Jimmyarm said:
Just to throw a spanner in the works, if the turbo has gone it is game over.
We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
Exactly this. As has been mentioned, injector seals fail, carbony crap gets in engine, oil pipe to turbo blocks, turbo dies. You can not get all the old carbony crap out of the engine, it will kill the new turbo sooner rather than later. I suspect any warranty will be void if the turbo is found to have suffered oil starvation, which of course it will. A new engine is the only long term answer.We and most garages we talk to won't just fit turbos to these engines unless a new or recon engine is fitted at the same time.
If the garage will warranty the turbo fair enough but expect it to fail again in short order.
We learnt the hard way, despite cleaning the sump and fitting new feed/return pipes etc testing the oil flow rate etc the only one of these we have done failed within 1000 miles.
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