RE: 250 orders for new TVR

RE: 250 orders for new TVR

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RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Oh yeah, Wiessmann - they did well financially, didn't they... even with a lot of support from BMW...

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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I actually quite like that car smile

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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DJRC said:
DonkeyApple said:
RoverP6B said:
The Eva GT was stunningly pretty, it was a practical 2+2 and was building on the success of the Aero series (which are fine-handling beasts but just too cramped inside for daily use). It wasn't made because Charles Morgan was sacked in disgraceful circumstances by his sister and brother-in-law, who seem determined to drag the firm back to the dark ages (much to the chagrin of the workforce at Malvern). The N54, while turbocharged, is still a good straight-six engine and has a pretty nice linear power-band. It would have made a good partner to that chassis. The Morgan V6 roadster is a much cheaper car, which is why it uses a cheap engine.
Please stop. The 2010 Eva didn't make it into production because Morgan didn't have the money. As one of the people who placed a deposit for one I seem to recall following it rather closely.

Due to the lack of funds they invested in the US license for the 3 wheeler to bring in some easy, low end revenues and they also chose to take the regional development grant for electric vehicles.

They did not and sadly still do not have the money for the Eva. CM being removed was also one of the plans for cutting costs and stopping a large amount of the crazy expenditure. The fact that CM hasn't found a normal job since 2013 does tend to suggest why the Board felt he was better as a figurehead and not actually involved in doing anything important.

I've always hankered after a Morgan since a child and hearing stories from my grandfather about how HFS would race his uncle up their driveway. My great uncle's Bugatti always won apparently. So the failure to built the Eva was a huge disappointment. But it's also why I kept with TVR.
Dont be silly DA. We all know the EVA didn't happen because I put my name down. It was during *that* period frown
As you know, I do generally hold you personally responsible for my greatest motoring woes. At lest with the Eva I can find a modicum of solace from knowing that you are as annoyed as I am. biggrin

Some Gump

12,688 posts

186 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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That Weismann is so nearly cool - if they just toned it down 10-15% (away from wky) it'd be seriously desirable. Maybe they were targetting the russian market?

Also, wtf styled that invicta? looks like an mx5 shagged a ford KA that had down syndrome. Were they aiming to sell it to blind people?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Some Gump said:
That Weismann is so nearly cool
Agreed. I also think it's quite well proportioned as well. It needs some proper bespoke modern and "styling integrated" lighting at each end, but the basic shape is a good one! (including the surfacing, which is so often the downfall of low volume cars imo)

KTF

9,805 posts

150 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Max_Torque said:
Agreed. I also think it's quite well proportioned as well. It needs some proper bespoke modern and "styling integrated" lighting at each end, but the basic shape is a good one! (including the surfacing, which is so often the downfall of low volume cars imo)
The side profile looks good but the back is far too busy and the front has a face only a mother would love. The hood also looks rubbish (cheap).

The interior is ok(ish) but not up to the requirements of the price point.


GTRene

16,529 posts

224 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Some Gump said:
That Weismann is so nearly cool - if they just toned it down 10-15% (away from wky) it'd be seriously desirable. Maybe they were targetting the russian market?

Also, wtf styled that invicta? looks like an mx5 shagged a ford KA that had down syndrome. Were they aiming to sell it to blind people?
They have that, the MF5 is the top, or 505hp V10 or 550hp V8 biturbo

then the bit smaller MF4 with V8

then the small MF3 with S50 or S54, those are really small and drive very well, more connected then the MF4 and MF5, ofcourse the bigger ones are faster.

here their roadsters (the MF4 GT and MF5 GT are coupes)

MF5
MF4
MF3





http://www.autogespot.com/wiesmann-roadster-mf5/20...

the interior is nice as well





Edited by GTRene on Sunday 6th September 21:20

HarryW

15,150 posts

269 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Quite like that Weismann, it's sort of a modern take on a XK and Morgan but with a 80's S series dash....

Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

151 months

Sunday 6th September 2015
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Nobody thinks the wheels are way oversized on the Wiesmann? That just looks massively out of proportion to me, and the little suspension travel left won't help dynamics. It's not like this was supposed to be a track car, right?

dvs_dave

8,622 posts

225 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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TVR can at least learn from Wiesmann in that spunking a ton of cash building a fancy looking factory is probably not a good move. Beyond it looking clean and efficient, no one gives a st what the factory looks like, only what comes out of it.


anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I Think it was the dealership as well.

I am sure TVR future prospects would love to buy their car from a non-descript industrial estate, would really enhance the experience.

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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The Spruce goose said:
I Think it was the dealership as well.

I am sure TVR future prospects would love to buy their car from a non-descript industrial estate, would really enhance the experience.
Whereas walking in via a giant Gekko's mouth, symbolising being food for the machine and leaving as symbolic excrement is clearly what will be demanded.

I think we can all agree that somewhere in between the 'post industrial wasteland' option and the 'debt monkey, lost up own ahole' one probably lies the correct compromise for TVR. biggrin

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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That really is nuts, and not all that attractive.

Meanwhile, just up the road from Gordon Murray is this, the oldest surviving vehicle factory in the UK (if not the world), repurposed as a Wetherspoon's pub...


DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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And the Dennis Lance, being a straight 6 is a renowned English sports car.

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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anonymous said:
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As a British car factory and then a Wetherspoons it has at least maintained the uniform demographic of pissed people not doing any work. And managers who don't care and don't know what they're doing. biggrin

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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I cannot disagree on any count. That said, I've been in worse chain pubs...

...and the Guildford 'School of Rock', the Academy of Contemporary Music, occupies the upper floors.

Edited by RoverP6B on Monday 7th September 11:21

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Kolbenkopp said:
Nobody thinks the wheels are way oversized on the Wiesmann?
I do. I also think the detailing varies from bordering on garish to crossing that mark big time. Looking at the dash and the integration of lights, mirrors, door handles etc. it's at least two generations behind the last TVRs, only tarted up and then tarted up some more.

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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Some Gump said:
That Weismann is so nearly cool - if they just toned it down 10-15% (away from wky) it'd be seriously desirable.
yes It's, erm, very 'posh' German.

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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900T-R said:
Some Gump said:
That Weismann is so nearly cool - if they just toned it down 10-15% (away from wky) it'd be seriously desirable.
yes It's, erm, very 'posh' German.
They shot all their properly posh chaps about 70 years ago. It's why there's no one to tell Mercedes and BMW that wood is wood, not stty plastic and that only a fktard would then stick it where they do. biggrin

Some Gump

12,688 posts

186 months

Monday 7th September 2015
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GTRene said:
They have that
Sorry, I disagree. All 3 are massively over wheeled, fussy silly details at the back, lights are daft. If they put sensible wheels on, they could have kept it all looking less Batman film / Russian looking and it'd have been like a muscular classic Jag. IMO it's the same error that TVR started to make at the tail end - the Sagaris has a couple of features that are just silly (sideways exhausts etc), the car was manly enough without going full schoolboy =)