That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...
Discussion
Heaveho said:
Is it not a statement of fact that if another another road user can't make progress at the appropriate speed limit without impinging on others, then it is not fit for purpose?
Learners, milk floats, huge lorries with abnormal loads on motorways, vintage cars, traction engines... Have seen them all on the road in the last week, none are fit for purpose by your logic. Boshly said:
pablo said:
Boshly said:
swerni said:
grumpy52 said:
Until cyclists ride in a safe and considerate manner on safe bikes why should I as a car and truck driver and sometimes motorcycle rider treat them with anything other than disdain ?
When you lot stop driving while on the phone, reading porn and murdering prostitutes, i as a rational road user will avoid you like the plague.
This trolling attempt doesn't even make sense to me
And I'm a 'friend' of yours. ....
NB inverted commas on friend as I refuse to be your friend when you're wearing lycra, being ridiculous about cycling/people's cars/people's weight or generally trolling
....except I dont because I recognize each trucker as an individual and don't tarnish them all by the actions of one.
It's a simple concept yet I'm staggered by how many people can't grasp it. When I'm cycling my life depends on people like Boshly treating me on the basis of MY riding and no one else's....
Grumpy made a statement that was his opinion (that not everyone will agre with) and the lycra clad Swerni decided to say a few unsavoury Clarksonesque type comments in his inimitable trolling way
Boshly said:
pablo said:
fair comment imho.
Nice to see you're defending your mate also as I can see his ugly mug on your profile photo - MAMIL's United ....... Mave said:
St John Smythe said:
Strawman said:
I'll just assume your are another trolling cycling enthusiast that seems to have infested PH.
Well said. It's always the same small minority of posters too.227bhp said:
I'm cycling the other day up a one way street with cars parked down one side, it's uphill and i'm slow. Behind me I can hear 'Duff duff duff, boom boom boom', I glance round and there is some kid in a Corsa who can't pass.
So what to do?
I hopped up onto the deserted pavement via a lowered kerb, Corsaboy comes past slowly. I look across at him and he grins and gives me the thumbs up for letting him through, job done.
It's as easy as that.
As a comparison, it's like waiting at the supermarket checkout with a full trolley when you notice the person behind you only has one or two items, you let them go first, they are grateful and it makes for a pleasant day.So what to do?
I hopped up onto the deserted pavement via a lowered kerb, Corsaboy comes past slowly. I look across at him and he grins and gives me the thumbs up for letting him through, job done.
It's as easy as that.
I guess some people in this world don't do things like that because they don't have too ?
Mave said:
St John Smythe said:
Mave said:
St John Smythe said:
Strawman said:
I'll just assume your are another trolling cycling enthusiast that seems to have infested PH.
Well said. It's always the same small minority of posters too.If you look at the posts where I've been accused of being a troll, my posts have been calm, unconfrontational, unambiguous, and uninflammatory. So how does that make me a troll? Or is it simply the case that referring to someone as a troll is a convenient deflection tactic?
Heaveho said:
Says the spacktard who thinks it's as simple as driving up behind a cyclist, and pulling out to overtake him in the rush hour, giving him the space he " needs ", in the face of oncoming traffic. Not where I live, you don't, literally the busiest B-road in the country. Which is why numerous cars have to drive at 15 mph instead of something resembling progress.
If you did overtake them in these circumstances, the go-pro warrior would then post you up on youtube as someone who's overtaken him too closely. By all means, use the term spacktard as liberally as you like, but when your argument's a poorly thought out one, best save it for yourself.
So it is your spacktard brain that means you can't overtake cyclists. If you did overtake them in these circumstances, the go-pro warrior would then post you up on youtube as someone who's overtaken him too closely. By all means, use the term spacktard as liberally as you like, but when your argument's a poorly thought out one, best save it for yourself.
Someone less charitable than me would say that you shouldn't be allowed to drive on the roads. Not fit for purpose, or something.
http://youtu.be/MhhVTiSXm0c
Here is a cyclist having a rant.
Why on earth would you want gates to keep live stock in a field
Here is a cyclist having a rant.
Why on earth would you want gates to keep live stock in a field
NoNeed said:
Ghibli said:
http://youtu.be/MhhVTiSXm0c
Here is a cyclist having a rant.
Why on earth would you want gates to keep live stock in a field
They really can't see anything beyong their own little world can they.Here is a cyclist having a rant.
Why on earth would you want gates to keep live stock in a field
http://youtu.be/ulkjVGMNds8
Another cyclist having a rant.
I dread to think what they are like whist driving a car ?
Another cyclist having a rant.
I dread to think what they are like whist driving a car ?
Mave said:
Do you really think that scouring youtube to find videos of dodgy cycling to post supports the view that it's mainly cyclists doing the ranting on PH? Or do you think that it supports the view that the antagonistic posting is mainly anti cyclist?
It's not scouring YouTube, it's looking at my favourite cycling instructors channel. It's all in one place. I think the bloke is a knob and I am entitled to my opinion.
You can think what you like.
okgo said:
Why have you not been back to your other thread and answered the last poster who called you out on another pointless thread you made?
Oh yes, the one that says it is for information purposes and not cyclist or driver bashing.I guess some people don't understand what that means ?
Mave said:
Ghibli said:
It's not scouring YouTube, it's looking at my favourite cycling instructors channel. It's all in one place.
I think the bloke is a knob and I am entitled to my opinion.
You can think what you like.
I think the bloke is a knob as well. But whether or not you were posting in response to my comments immediately beforehand it simply reinforces my point. The vast majority of rants on gg start anti-cyclist. As do the antagonistic comments.I think the bloke is a knob and I am entitled to my opinion.
You can think what you like.
Why isn't the dash cam thread anti motorist when they get the same response ?
Mave said:
This forum isn't youtube. It's pistonheads so I'm talking about posts and attitudes on pistonheads, not youtube.
The dash cam thread isn't "anti motorist" because it isn't full of generalisations against motorists. It complains about the things that the motorist has done. I have never seen a dash cam thread which has been followed up by comments like "motorists, if they want to be treated with respect they should follow the rules"
I know this forum isn't YouTube but many of the clips come from YT and this is where it's being discussed.The dash cam thread isn't "anti motorist" because it isn't full of generalisations against motorists. It complains about the things that the motorist has done. I have never seen a dash cam thread which has been followed up by comments like "motorists, if they want to be treated with respect they should follow the rules"
The generalisation with cyclist/motorist is usually when cyclists and motorists are in these clips.
Some people just defend cyclists, others motorists, some just look at the situations as they are.
Gaz. said:
Mave said:
This forum isn't youtube. It's pistonheads so I'm talking about posts and attitudes on pistonheads, not youtube.
The dash cam thread isn't "anti motorist" because it isn't full of generalisations against motorists. It complains about the things that the motorist has done. I have never seen a dash cam thread which has been followed up by comments like "motorists, if they want to be treated with respect they should follow the rules"
Is that not like wading into mumsent and saying they are 'anti-men'? What exactly did you expect when you joined a motoring forum? If you go onto the PH Liverpool FC thread you may be utterly shocked to find they do not think too highly of Manchester United. What causes a lot of the 'anti' comments is some absolutely insane holier than thou comments from those who chose to pigeon hole themselves as cyclists or whenever there is a video of a bike vs XYZ automatically side with the bike no matter what.The dash cam thread isn't "anti motorist" because it isn't full of generalisations against motorists. It complains about the things that the motorist has done. I have never seen a dash cam thread which has been followed up by comments like "motorists, if they want to be treated with respect they should follow the rules"
I used to commute by bicycle so I see things from both sides of the fence and what I see on this forum is a group of people poking a dog with a stick and then complaining that they get bitten and shout- "see, savages! shouldn't be allowed!". As for as being antagonistic goes, I read a comment on PH by a cyclist that they think it is ok to hold up a whole line of traffic as they have a right to be on the road. That is proper grade A a
hole stuff right there and I would not dream of intentionally holding up other road users. One one of my regular commutes was a long hill that though not particularly steep was so long that after 1/2 a mile 10mph was the very most I could attain, so I used to hop onto the pavement and life in that part of the world went unimpeded and I reached my destination in the same timely manner, it made no odds to me yet made a significant difference to everyone else as it was a busy road with a constant stream of traffic both ways so I had to look at the bigger picture. Many cyclists on here would have said "fk you, you can wait" and risk getting squeezed by an impatient motorist or revel being the head of a line of considerate cars 1/2 a mile long.t. We are all motorists, we ended up at pistonehads because there was an interest in cars primarily, then the sub-forums grew so people can discuss music, pets, books and even fking watches.... No one joined pistonheads just to post on cycling issues despite your little fantasy and I am willing to bet you £1000 that every single cyclist on pistonheads would not revel in being the head of a line of cars 1/2 mile long. The cars would be impatient, tail the cyclists wheel by a matter of inches until they could find a big enough gap, pass and cut the cyclist up upon rejoining the lane... yeah that sounds like real fun.PH cyclists are drivers too, they appreciate the issues they cause, the problem is they know the PH motorists who have never cycled on the road in the last twenty years dont appreciate the issue from the other side. When you are sat in the right hand side of the box, you dont fully appreciate the difference between passing a cyclist at 25cm or passing a cyclist at 1.25m for example.
Editted to add, this original issue was a critical mass ride the OP got caught up in and to date I have not seen any PH cyclist support the critical mass riders, more to the point they seem to be quite vocal in the opinion that they disassociate themselves from such activities and recognise the real damage it causes to other cyclists on future rides. I'm sorry that some people find this too hard to grasp and have to pluck out more camera footage from youtube showing cyclists doing dumb things to tarr everyone with the same brush and flesh out their sorry personal agendas.
How do you feel when you see chavs in modified corsas, do you think "yeah great another performance car enthusiast" or do you cringe and hope you are not associated with such activities? is it really to hard to extrapolate that accross to cyclists?
If the vast majority of people can see the chav in the corsa is not representative of motorists as a whole, why can people here not realise that the actions of some cyclists do not represent the rest?
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 1st September 16:40
funkyrobot said:
The main problems on the road are impatience, a lack of care and attention and for some people, a stinking attitude towards other road users.
The trouble with this forum is that some people automatically jump to the conclusion that PHers are these drivers.I'm sure some are but I would like to think that most people posting on these threads aren't.
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