That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...

That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...

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Heaveho

5,282 posts

174 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Greg66 said:
Yes thanks, spacktard.

O-v-e-r-t-a-k-e the cyclist. Unless your spacktard car or spacktard brain means you can't.
Says the spacktard who thinks it's as simple as driving up behind a cyclist, and pulling out to overtake him in the rush hour, giving him the space he " needs ", in the face of oncoming traffic. Not where I live, you don't, literally the busiest B-road in the country. Which is why numerous cars have to drive at 15 mph instead of something resembling progress.

If you did overtake them in these circumstances, the go-pro warrior would then post you up on youtube as someone who's overtaken him too closely. By all means, use the term spacktard as liberally as you like, but when your argument's a poorly thought out one, best save it for yourself.


Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2s01JvgzKc

Might have been posted earlier in the thread but one day someone is going to put this prat in hospital.

Militant cyclists in London are a problem, I've been told off by one for standing near to the edge of the pavement (Holborn tube was restricted access and I had nowhere else to stand). I slapped the idiot's camera off his head so I'm probably on youtube as "ANGRY MAN ASSAULTS ME" when really I just want to get home and not put up with idiot cyclists that what to police the road.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Heaveho said:
Says the spacktard who thinks it's as simple as driving up behind a cyclist, and pulling out to overtake him in the rush hour, giving him the space he " needs ", in the face of oncoming traffic. Not where I live, you don't, literally the busiest B-road in the country. Which is why numerous cars have to drive at 15 mph instead of something resembling progress.

If you did overtake them in these circumstances, the go-pro warrior would then post you up on youtube as someone who's overtaken him too closely. By all means, use the term spacktard as liberally as you like, but when your argument's a poorly thought out one, best save it for yourself.
So it is your spacktard brain that means you can't overtake cyclists.

Someone less charitable than me would say that you shouldn't be allowed to drive on the roads. Not fit for purpose, or something.

AMG Merc

11,954 posts

253 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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I've just had to look up Spacktard although I could have guessed.

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Janesy B said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2s01JvgzKc

Might have been posted earlier in the thread but one day someone is going to put this prat in hospital.

Militant cyclists in London are a problem, I've been told off by one for standing near to the edge of the pavement (Holborn tube was restricted access and I had nowhere else to stand). I slapped the idiot's camera off his head so I'm probably on youtube as "ANGRY MAN ASSAULTS ME" when really I just want to get home and not put up with idiot cyclists that what to police the road.
Haha I liked the way the guy dealt with the bicyclist.

Janesy B

2,625 posts

186 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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He could have just backed off and carried on as normal, but then he can't upload that to youtube. That's half the problem with the dash/helmet cam people, they put themselves into bad situations and even though they are in the "right", they could have just easily avoided the confrontation in the first place.

That bloke in particular is going to pick a fight with the wrong person and end up in hospital or worse.

sealtt

3,091 posts

158 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Janesy B said:
He could have just backed off and carried on as normal, but then he can't upload that to youtube. That's half the problem with the dash/helmet cam people, they put themselves into bad situations and even though they are in the "right", they could have just easily avoided the confrontation in the first place.

That bloke in particular is going to pick a fight with the wrong person and end up in hospital or worse.
Yes, most of these guys doing this youtube gig provoke other road users as much as possible to get a good video to upload. Their objective of using a camera is to create content of fights and arguments to get as many clicks as they can. Obviously any rational & considerate person looking to get home as easily as possible would have just slowed down a little coming to the red light to give the guy time to cross.

Though I bet that he'd actually love to get hit as it would net him a lot of views and maybe even a mention on the daily mail!

5-Oh

206 posts

107 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Must admit I would enjoy holding up a procession of cyclists by riding a penny farthing or a tricycle very slowly and then angrily yell "it's my right!" when they start getting miffed.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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anonymous said:
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Entirely agree. They are flat out at 30mph when a car is pootling - that's a large part of it.

I find a Caterham with near side exhaust and a well timed lift does the trick smile

okgo

37,999 posts

198 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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anonymous said:
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Yes, stopping is a pain, you also have to realise that a pushbike is a lot narrower than any motorbike, I go through gaps that no motorbike can fit down but frequently motorbikes do just sit there blocking the road (gaps) for people on bikes, if you don't have any intention of filtering I think its best to leave the gap for other people to make their own call, what you deem as narrow on a wider vehicle won't be the same as what I deem too narrow.

thelawnet1

1,539 posts

155 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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AMG Merc said:
Childish - anyone know what their purpose is again?
I think they just like owning the road for a few hours.

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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If any cyclist doesn't adhere to the rules they should be following then they should be fined. End of discussion. The same applies to every other road user, if you disagree with this you are wrong. End of.

The cyclists in the OPs post were breaking the law, they should be prosecuted.

Where's the argument?

If you don't agree then you are mentally ill, if you agree then we need to petition the government to act on this.

thelawnet1

1,539 posts

155 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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crostonian said:
If any cyclist doesn't adhere to the rules they should be following then they should be fined. End of discussion. The same applies to every other road user, if you disagree with this you are wrong. End of.

The cyclists in the OPs post were breaking the law, they should be prosecuted.

Where's the argument?

If you don't agree then you are mentally ill, if you agree then we need to petition the government to act on this.
We stopped enforcing the law in this country many decades ago.

Law is enforced highly selectively. The police won't do anything about many forms of theft and fraud, so why should they act about one kind of two-wheeled road user spouting off over some other two-wheeled road users?

Mentally ill indeed.

okgo

37,999 posts

198 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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anonymous said:
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Motorbikes are not quicker through London than bikes in general, I frequently see the same motorbikes over and over again. The reason ironically for that is because you cannot filter through the same gaps a bike can, as per my last post. And of course bike lanes.

Most of the cyclists that end up dead either do so through fault of a driver, or through lack of awareness, very few I doubt think they can make a gap and die, it doesn't generally work like that. However, we have had these threads before and drivers are the cause of the deaths in more cases than cyclists are the stats are out there. Forget all the st about red lights, its irrelevant (apart from to create a bad image).

You seem to think people like the ones in CM care about their image or are in anyway thinking about how cyclists generally come across, I doubt they do, as I said, many people think people on motorbikes are just organ donors, I'm sure they don't care either when they're blatting around the country roads. They don't represent the bloke commuting via vespa to work, the same way some unwashed fktard with a boombox on his bike doesn't represent me, the same way a drink driver who kills a car full of innocent people doesn't represent car drivers. You say you understood this, but I don't think you do.

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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okgo said:
anonymous said:
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Motorbikes are not quicker through London than bikes in general, I frequently see the same motorbikes over and over again. The reason ironically for that is because you cannot filter through the same gaps a bike can, as per my last post. And of course bike lanes.

Most of the cyclists that end up dead either do so through fault of a driver, or through lack of awareness, very few I doubt think they can make a gap and die, it doesn't generally work like that. However, we have had these threads before and drivers are the cause of the deaths in more cases than cyclists are the stats are out there. Forget all the st about red lights, its irrelevant (apart from to create a bad image).

You seem to think people like the ones in CM care about their image or are in anyway thinking about how cyclists generally come across, I doubt they do, as I said, many people think people on motorbikes are just organ donors, I'm sure they don't care either when they're blatting around the country roads. They don't represent the bloke commuting via vespa to work, the same way some unwashed fktard with a boombox on his bike doesn't represent me, the same way a drink driver who kills a car full of innocent people doesn't represent car drivers. You say you understood this, but I don't think you do.
You are missing the point, forget the grey areas and treat it as black and white. The cyclists are wrong, the OP is right.

Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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crostonian said:
You are missing the point, forget the grey areas and treat it as black and white. The cyclists are wrong, the OP is right.
Both black and white, and grey viewpoints are valid, providing you are consistent.

So if you want to talk in terms of black and white then yes, the cyclists are wrong. They should be prosecuted. As should every motorist who speeds, passes cyclists too close, parks on the pavement or double yellow lines, and we should petition the government to act on those law breakers as well.

Fireblade69

628 posts

203 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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I was going to post on here but as an owner and driver & rider of a car, a bicycle and a motorbike in London in my time I fear I'm at fault whatever I say or do frown

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Mave said:
crostonian said:
You are missing the point, forget the grey areas and treat it as black and white. The cyclists are wrong, the OP is right.
Both black and white, and grey viewpoints are valid, providing you are consistent.

So if you want to talk in terms of black and white then yes, the cyclists are wrong. They should be prosecuted. As should every motorist who speeds, passes cyclists too close, parks on the pavement or double yellow lines, and we should petition the government to act on those law breakers as well.
Your argument is irrelevant and flawed. The law enforcers attempt to prosecute all the violators your mention and you agree that the cyclists in this case should be prosecuted.

Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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crostonian said:
Mave said:
crostonian said:
You are missing the point, forget the grey areas and treat it as black and white. The cyclists are wrong, the OP is right.
Both black and white, and grey viewpoints are valid, providing you are consistent.

So if you want to talk in terms of black and white then yes, the cyclists are wrong. They should be prosecuted. As should every motorist who speeds, passes cyclists too close, parks on the pavement or double yellow lines, and we should petition the government to act on those law breakers as well.
Your argument is irrelevant and flawed. The law enforcers attempt to prosecute all the violators your mention and you agree that the cyclists in this case should be prosecuted.
So what are the laws that the cyclists have broken that do not get enforced?

crostonian

2,427 posts

172 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Mave said:
crostonian said:
Mave said:
crostonian said:
You are missing the point, forget the grey areas and treat it as black and white. The cyclists are wrong, the OP is right.
Both black and white, and grey viewpoints are valid, providing you are consistent.

So if you want to talk in terms of black and white then yes, the cyclists are wrong. They should be prosecuted. As should every motorist who speeds, passes cyclists too close, parks on the pavement or double yellow lines, and we should petition the government to act on those law breakers as well.
Your argument is irrelevant and flawed. The law enforcers attempt to prosecute all the violators your mention and you agree that the cyclists in this case should be prosecuted.
So what are the laws that the cyclists have broken that do not get enforced?