That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...
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kwits never hold me up in town.
NoNeed said:
oyster said:
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So cars permanently delay cyclists, whilst cyclists temporarily delay cars. And guess who does all the ranting?
Totally wrong though as I ee cycles riding inbetween and up the side of cars, in fact most cyclist I know do so because the journey is faster because they can do that.So cars permanently delay cyclists, whilst cyclists temporarily delay cars. And guess who does all the ranting?
When cycles block the lanes cars have no choice.
Anyhow, even allowing for filtering (which of course makes cycles faster than cars in heavy traffic), what I was saying is that on an overall time loss basis, cars lose less time to cyclists than cyclists lose to cars on my commute.
I suspect this is true of most people who have a commute into central London.
Question for PH cyclists: if I'm looking to overtake you, how much distance should I leave between you and the back wheel? Normal stopping distance is the logic I normally apply, but I obviously appreciate that you can stop very quickly and also some cyclists get a bit nervous about a noisy car hovering behind.
Also: overtaking on country lanes (the pretty small variety with no central markings). Do I go past slowly because the lateral distance between us is small, or go past quickly and spend less time on the other side of the road?
Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
Also: overtaking on country lanes (the pretty small variety with no central markings). Do I go past slowly because the lateral distance between us is small, or go past quickly and spend less time on the other side of the road?
Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
TankRizzo said:
Question for PH cyclists: if I'm looking to overtake you, how much distance should I leave between you and the back wheel? Normal stopping distance is the logic I normally apply, but I obviously appreciate that you can stop very quickly and also some cyclists get a bit nervous about a noisy car hovering behind.
Also: overtaking on country lanes (the pretty small variety with no central markings). Do I go past slowly because the lateral distance between us is small, or go past quickly and spend less time on the other side of the road?
Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
Normal stopping distance for a car from a cyclist's speed (say 15-20mph) will be very small, so I'd suggest leave a little more space. After all, we are fairly slow moving and so you don't need to be particularly close to prepare for overtaking as you can easily accelerate past us, unlike a car which you have already matched speed behind (and which may accelerate as you go to overtake it).Also: overtaking on country lanes (the pretty small variety with no central markings). Do I go past slowly because the lateral distance between us is small, or go past quickly and spend less time on the other side of the road?
Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
If lateral space is limited I'd suggest going past fairly slowly as batting past will take les time but is more likely to intimidate the cyclist which means they may be more likely to wobble (and if they lose it you'll be hitting them at a higher speed).
Better really to wait until you can allow some space between you and them, where the road widens or there is a passing place. Personally my pet hate is cars passing too close, particularly when the road is wide...
IamCyclingmikey said:
Ghibli said:
How have you come to the conclusion that you have more entitlement to use the roads ?
Drivers are there by revocable license. Cyclists are there by right. Got it?
Got it !
TankRizzo said:
Question for PH cyclists: if I'm looking to overtake you, how much distance should I leave between you and the back wheel? Normal stopping distance is the logic I normally apply, but I obviously appreciate that you can stop very quickly and also some cyclists get a bit nervous about a noisy car hovering behind.
Facetious answer = as much as possible! Seriously, if every driver was the 'normal stopping distance' behind I'd be very happy indeed. Trouble is, not only can bikes stop quickly, we have no brake lights.....TankRizzo said:
overtaking on country lanes (the pretty small variety with no central markings). Do I go past slowly because the lateral distance between us is small, or go past quickly and spend less time on the other side of the road?
Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
For me, family slowly but without putting yourself (and me) at risk - it gives both the driver and rider a certain amount of room for manoeuvre.Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
On topic, I commute in Derby and most of the drivers are pretty considerate. Now and again there is an idiot, but sometimes they're on bikes - I've nearly been taken out twice by other people on bikes recently, not impressed.
As to the OP, and at the risk of making myself unpopular, I'd be furious if CM appeared on my trip home. To me all it achieves is to wind up other road users.
Ghibli said:
So you are saying that you don't have anymore entitlement to use the road than someone with a valid driving licence.
They can always lose that licence.You can't stop someone cycling.
An inalienable right is clearly better than one that can be taken away.
Anyway it is irrelevant nit-picking, we're all perfectly allowed to be on the road, it's just a shame a small minority have to ruin it for everyone else:
- Critical mass cyclists.
- Morons who can't drive safely around vulnerable road users.
IamCyclingmikey said:
Ghibli said:
Exactly, Cycling Mikey appears to be the cycling version of "You don't pay road tax"
No doubt we will get the " There is no such thing as road tax"
Er because there is no such thing? You pay VED. You pay to pollute. Not an access fee to use the roads. No doubt we will get the " There is no such thing as road tax"
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