That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...
Discussion
BGarside said:
Normal stopping distance for a car from a cyclist's speed (say 15-20mph) will be very small, so I'd suggest leave a little more space. After all, we are fairly slow moving and so you don't need to be particularly close to prepare for overtaking as you can easily accelerate past us, unlike a car which you have already matched speed behind (and which may accelerate as you go to overtake it).
If lateral space is limited I'd suggest going past fairly slowly as batting past will take les time but is more likely to intimidate the cyclist which means they may be more likely to wobble (and if they lose it you'll be hitting them at a higher speed).
Better really to wait until you can allow some space between you and them, where the road widens or there is a passing place. Personally my pet hate is cars passing too close, particularly when the road is wide...
If lateral space is limited I'd suggest going past fairly slowly as batting past will take les time but is more likely to intimidate the cyclist which means they may be more likely to wobble (and if they lose it you'll be hitting them at a higher speed).
Better really to wait until you can allow some space between you and them, where the road widens or there is a passing place. Personally my pet hate is cars passing too close, particularly when the road is wide...
Moaningroadie said:
For me, family slowly but without putting yourself (and me) at risk - it gives both the driver and rider a certain amount of room for manoeuvre.
On topic, I commute in Derby and most of the drivers are pretty considerate. Now and again there is an idiot, but sometimes they're on bikes - I've nearly been taken out twice by other people on bikes recently, not impressed.
As to the OP, and at the risk of making myself unpopular, I'd be furious if CM appeared on my trip home. To me all it achieves is to wind up other road users.
Ta gents. My commute home is on a road similar to how I describe and it goes on for a while with little passing room, so I thought I'd ask. Much obliged.On topic, I commute in Derby and most of the drivers are pretty considerate. Now and again there is an idiot, but sometimes they're on bikes - I've nearly been taken out twice by other people on bikes recently, not impressed.
As to the OP, and at the risk of making myself unpopular, I'd be furious if CM appeared on my trip home. To me all it achieves is to wind up other road users.
IamCyclingmikey said:
It's called a recumbent bicycle...
I'm going to take that as a yes.Word of warning for you, as I don't know what your intentions are here: the mods will take a very dim view of you if you have purely signed up to aggravate the PH community. Apologies if your intentions are more noble.
TankRizzo said:
Question for PH cyclists: if I'm looking to overtake you, how much distance should I leave between you and the back wheel? Normal stopping distance is the logic I normally apply, but I obviously appreciate that you can stop very quickly and also some cyclists get a bit nervous about a noisy car hovering behind.
Also: overtaking on country lanes (the pretty small variety with no central markings). Do I go past slowly because the lateral distance between us is small, or go past quickly and spend less time on the other side of the road?
Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
One hill near me seems to attract drivers who sit about 5 feet behind you for a bit, miss a few perfect chance and then randomly decide to overtake, in what sounds like 5th gear, usually when a car is coming the other way.Also: overtaking on country lanes (the pretty small variety with no central markings). Do I go past slowly because the lateral distance between us is small, or go past quickly and spend less time on the other side of the road?
Genuinely would welcome some guidance.
The overtake seems to go on about as long as the star destroyer bit at the start of Star Wars.
Don't do it like that!
IamCyclingmikey said:
otolith said:
Given that the majority of people who work for a living get there by car, I don't think motorists are really being subsidised by anybody.
Not sure of serious? You do realize all the "car" taxes you pay ie: fuel duty, VED etc don't even come close to the external costs of motoring, right? I'm a motorist (and a cyclist). I pay enough tax on my income that I'm not being subsidised by anybody, even without the special extra taxes I have to pay because I have a car.
Most people who work for a living are car users. So any analysis which concludes that they are subsidised is making some odd assumptions. Oddly, the accusation usually seems to come from people who don't work for a living.
And "External costs" are better called "makey-uppy numbers".
IamCyclingmikey said:
Not at all! I drive as well! I just see things from both sides rather than someone who only cycles, or someone who only drives.
I'm glad you've said that, although I notice you've just posted this on the dashcam thread:IamCyclingmikey said:
Like motorists, thousands of us cyclists are now running cameras for our safety. Never again will you dare to drive badly around cyclists, not knowing whether your bad road behavior is being filmed or not. Many drivers banned/sacked and prosecuted.
That does not sound like someone "seeing things from both sides".
TankRizzo said:
That does not sound like someone "seeing things from both sides".
But Mikey likes to be as close to exhaust pipes as possible.It really can't be the best place to be, I hope he wears a mask?
Mikey is happy to contribute towards polution himself with his car but wants other people to stop while he is on his bike.
IamCyclingmikey said:
TankRizzo said:
I'm going to take that as a yes.
Word of warning for you, as I don't know what your intentions are here: the mods will take a very dim view of you if you have purely signed up to aggravate the PH community. Apologies if your intentions are more noble.
Not at all! I drive as well! I just see things from both sides rather than someone who only cycles, or someone who only drives. Word of warning for you, as I don't know what your intentions are here: the mods will take a very dim view of you if you have purely signed up to aggravate the PH community. Apologies if your intentions are more noble.
You don't seem to have a drivingmikey channel.
IamCyclingmikey said:
NoNeed said:
If you are so well balanced where are the videos of you driving a car filming bad cycling?
You don't seem to have a drivingmikey channel.
Call me crazy, but cyclists don't tend to risk my life, when I'm driving...You don't seem to have a drivingmikey channel.
t driver who doesn't care about cyclists safety.IamCyclingmikey said:
You fail to realize that motorists jump red lights as much as cyclists. The only difference being motorists have the capacity to harm others for their selfish actions. Cyclists will only hurt themselves, so less likely to put themselves at risk.
Now you really are talking rubbish.So you hit a cyclist who has selfishly jumped a red light and he dies, you as a driver are left traumatised by it. So how many people are hurt by this?
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