That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...

[TankRizzo]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I imagine the mods have cottoned on to his trolling.

[Johnnytheboy]

BGarside said:

Better really to wait until you can allow some space between you and them, where the road widens or there is a passing place. Personally my pet hate is cars passing too close, particularly when the road is wide...

Any guidance on what to do when the road is marginally wide enough to pass, but the cyclist in front of you sails past said passing places without moving in to them?

Should I assume they therefore think the normal road width is sufficient for me to get past?

[anonymous-user]

TankRizzo said:

I think CyclingMikey has left the premises.

I'm sure there will be a YouTube video showing what a victim Mikey is.

At least his quotes are here.

Here is a you tube clip as a farewell, enjoy


http://youtu.be/suaveqvlWP8

[frisbee]

Johnnytheboy said:

Any guidance on what to do when the road is marginally wide enough to pass, but the cyclist in front of you sails past said passing places without moving in to them?

Should I assume they therefore think the normal road width is sufficient for me to get past?

So never caught a slower car in the whole time that you've been driving on narrow roads?

[Steve vRS]

frisbee said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Any guidance on what to do when the road is marginally wide enough to pass, but the cyclist in front of you sails past said passing places without moving in to them?

Should I assume they therefore think the normal road width is sufficient for me to get past?

So never caught a slower car in the whole time that you've been driving on narrow roads?

Yea, you just have to wait. For the record, I will do my best to help you past.

Steve

[Johnnytheboy]

Steve vRS said:

frisbee said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Any guidance on what to do when the road is marginally wide enough to pass, but the cyclist in front of you sails past said passing places without moving in to them?

Should I assume they therefore think the normal road width is sufficient for me to get past?

So never caught a slower car in the whole time that you've been driving on narrow roads?

Yea, you just have to wait. For the record, I will do my best to help you past.

Steve

I think you've both failed to understand the post I was responding to, in which BGarside suggested if following a bicycle down a marginally too narrow road, it was best to wait until a passing place.

Never mind, eh.

[Big Al.]

TankRizzo said:

I imagine the mods have cottoned on to his trolling.

OH he left the builing a few hours ago.

[Blakewater]

Big Al. said:

TankRizzo said:

I imagine the mods have cottoned on to his trolling.

OH he left the builing a few hours ago.

If he'd joined in to have a sensible discussion I'm sure he would have been quite welcome. The problem with YouTube cyclists is they say they want to educate people but they don't appreciate education is a two way discussion. They want to lecture and don't want to see things from other people's points of view.

For example, Uphillfreewheeler says motorists should look more carefully before pulling out of side roads which, in itself, is a fair point as many motorists only have a quick glance and only look out for the big stuff. Then motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point. He doesn't take it in and instead pretends motorists are trolling him and he's a victim and he makes rude and sarcastic comments in return. He wants to cycle where he wants as fast as he wants and the whole world should part like the Red Sea so he doesn't have to compromise his progress in any way.

If people are going to be safe on the roads and get along with each other, they need to respect each others perspectives instead of reveling in confrontation.

At least the Critical Mass types encountered had clothes on, unlike this lot.

https://instagram.com/p/36YRdPvEZF/?taken-by=laura...

Edited by Blakewater on Saturday 5th September 10:33

[anonymous-user]

Blakewater said:

If he'd joined in to have a sensible discussion I'm sure he would have been quite welcome.

To be honest, I think there would be very little chance of having a sensible discussion with Cycling Mikey. In the limited posts he did make he didn't mention safety, which IMO is the key issue.

The following link shows what can happen when cyclists and motorists have confrontations. The third cyclist up the is the one who gets the brunt of it.

http://www.sussex.police.uk/whats-happening/latest...

Disgusting behaviour by this X3 driver.

[DJFish]

Blakewater said:

If people are going to be safe on the roads and get along with each other, they need to respect each others perspectives instead of reveling in confrontation.

This.
Critical Mass made me late for work, I was on my bicycle.
Rash generalisations don't work, I don't think these 'mob' events are a particularly good idea either.
Plus, I'll never cycle naked, it's not fair on other road users.

[interloper]

DJFish said:

I'll never cycle naked, it's not fair on other road users.

Personally I see little difference between a Lycra clad bloke or a naked bloke, I find both unpleasant to look at. At least naked person is unlikely to be covered in faux race team logos!

[G321]

Blakewater said:

motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point.

That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.

[TooMany2cvs]

G321 said:

That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.

Does that apply to other vehicles with a low power-to-weight ratio and slow acceleration, too?

[saaby93]

G321 said:

That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.

Youve opened a can of worms there
As a pedestrian you'll sometimes get a cyclist 'coming through' because they dont want to lose momentum and they'll think it's the pedestrians fault if they do.
But dont tar everyone with the same brush, you do see cyclists varying their speed or stopping depending on whats around them, same as other road users.
That's what it should be about.

[Hoofy]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Pick a better mode of transport.

Yesterday, I commuted by spacehopper using cycle lanes, I got shouted at by cyclists for stopping to rest every 20 yards.

[vikingaero]

G321 said:

That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.

I'm calling utter BS on that one. Everyone from Pedestrian to HGV and in between has "some" responsibility towards others no matter how you are powered. Whilst you have rights you should still exercise reasonable caution.

[frisbee]

Hoofy said:

Pick a better mode of transport.

Yesterday, I commuted by spacehopper using cycle lanes, I got shouted at by cyclists for stopping to rest every 20 yards.

Did they should out, "Get a bike!"?

Did you bounce really high and jump the lights?

[Hoofy]

frisbee said:

Hoofy said:

Pick a better mode of transport.

Yesterday, I commuted by spacehopper using cycle lanes, I got shouted at by cyclists for stopping to rest every 20 yards.

Did they should out, "Get a bike!"?

Did you bounce really high and jump the lights?

Someone in a yellow Fiat shouted, "BOUNCE wkER!"

[Blakewater]

G321 said:

Blakewater said:

motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point.

That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.

Let's take a different example. We all know large vehicles turning left are a danger to cyclists, hence this article about large lorries going to construction sites in London apparently being banned from turning left. It's actually normal for lorries to construction sites to be given specific routes to avoid causing nuisance. Down among the trolling comments under the article there's a conversation about a cyclist who was killed by a left turning coach. All witnesses to the accident said the coach driver indicated in plenty of time and turned very slowly and the cyclist who was killed wasn't paying attention, yet people are still insisting the coach driver turned from the "wrong" lane and don't want to understand that he had to swing wide to take the turning.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/lorries-f...

It's the same with Uphillfreewheeler here when he's the one not looking properly at a junction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMnJbpRXWkA

He doesn't listen to the lorry driver when he confronts him and still reports him to his employer and puts him on YouTube for being on the "Wrong side of the road."

[Finlandia]

G321 said:

Blakewater said:

motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point.

That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.

Why not keep at a constant slightly lower speed then?