That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...

That's it, I'm f**king done with cyclists...

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TankRizzo

7,247 posts

192 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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G321 said:
That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.
There is no "right" to maintain your momentum. This is no answer at all.

G321

574 posts

203 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Finlandia said:
G321 said:
Blakewater said:
motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point.
That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.
Why not keep at a constant slightly lower speed then?
Good point, in fact we should limit the speed of all vehicles with the right of way then people can drive straight out of side roads without looking at all.
Back on topic though the critical mass f*ckwits don't achieve anything other than giving cyclists a bad name and pissing off motorists

Finlandia

7,803 posts

230 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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G321 said:
Finlandia said:
G321 said:
Blakewater said:
motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point.
That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.
Why not keep at a constant slightly lower speed then?
Good point, in fact we should limit the speed of all vehicles with the right of way then people can drive straight out of side roads without looking at all.
Back on topic though the critical mass f*ckwits don't achieve anything other than giving cyclists a bad name and pissing off motorists
But seriously, why not keep a slightly lower speed to increase your own safety?

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

223 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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When people get on bikes they are complete bell ends, I know as I cycle and do myself.

Also, everyone I know who ride bikes also admits they ride like tts too, just not when defending themselves against drivers.

Just be honest, when you get in a car you think bikers are tts, and when you get on a bike you think drivers are tts.

In fact I also think most other drivers are tts when I am in my car, basically 99% of other road users are just not as good on the road as myself.


saaby93

32,038 posts

177 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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G321 said:
Good point, in fact we should limit the speed of all vehicles with the right of way then people can drive straight out of side roads without looking at all.
Thats the opposite to whats being said
The idea is you regulate your speed depending on whats going on around you
If someone pulls out of a side road without looking they can be up for driving without due care i.e. not looking properly
If while driving you see that happening and fail to try to avoid youre also up for driving without due care
Doesnt similar apply to cyclists?



DJFish

5,917 posts

262 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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interloper said:
DJFish said:
I'll never cycle naked, it's not fair on other road users.
Personally I see little difference between a Lycra clad bloke or a naked bloke, I find both unpleasant to look at. At least naked person is unlikely to be covered in faux race team logos!
I don't wear Lycra either, same reason.

Personally I try not to look too closely at what other people are wearing (except on sunny days) and try to keep my eyes on the road.

carlove

7,539 posts

166 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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I had a run in with a bellend on a bike today, was in slowish traffic(about 10-15mph) approaching a a parked bus at it's stop, suddenly I notice a lycra lunatic passing me on my inside, I realize they have every intention of cutting me up good and proper and if I emergency stop I'll probably clip it, so I floor it, giving the tit plenty of room and getting past the bus safely.
The knob then starts gesticulating and signalling to pull over, so I do. The look of horror on their face as my left hand indicator came on. They just ride past and mumble "dangerous driving", so as I overtake again I say "you don't pass a car on the inside while approaching a parked bus, ridiculously stupid", this got ignored as they did their best to avoid eye contact.

It made me tense through the rest of my drive and I turned into a massive bellend, shouting at a Range Rover for just pulling up without indicating, sorry Mr Range Rover, you're a bellend but I was a bigger bellend in that moment.

Roger Irrelevant

2,899 posts

112 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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I can't be arsed to read through 27 pages of comments so apologies if this has already been said, but I'm pretty sure you'll find that most cyclists can't stand these critical mass wkers either, since while they bang on about 'reclaiming the streets' or whatever all they really want to do is cause hassle and all they achieve is making people hate cyclists. Although having said that, saying you're through with all cyclists because of critical mass is a bit like saying you're through with tracksuits because of Jimmy Savile - your rage is somewhat misdirected. If the bicycle had never been invented then the scruffy tts would find some other infantile way to piss a large number of Londoners off.

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Finlandia said:
G321 said:
Finlandia said:
G321 said:
Blakewater said:
motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point.
That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.
Why not keep at a constant slightly lower speed then?
Good point, in fact we should limit the speed of all vehicles with the right of way then people can drive straight out of side roads without looking at all.
Back on topic though the critical mass f*ckwits don't achieve anything other than giving cyclists a bad name and pissing off motorists
But seriously, why not keep a slightly lower speed to increase your own safety?
10mph speed limit for all vehicles. Is that what you are proposing?

Finlandia

7,803 posts

230 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Mr Gear said:
Finlandia said:
G321 said:
Finlandia said:
G321 said:
Blakewater said:
motorists say to him that they don't want to knock cyclists off their bikes, they try to be careful, but he needs to approach junctions with poor visibility more slowly so they have more time to see him and react. That's also a fair point.
That's not a fair point, cyclists build up speed through their own power. To slow down at every side road and then have to build that momentum up again because of other people's incompetence is ridiculous.
Why not keep at a constant slightly lower speed then?
Good point, in fact we should limit the speed of all vehicles with the right of way then people can drive straight out of side roads without looking at all.
Back on topic though the critical mass f*ckwits don't achieve anything other than giving cyclists a bad name and pissing off motorists
But seriously, why not keep a slightly lower speed to increase your own safety?
10mph speed limit for all vehicles. Is that what you are proposing?
I ask again, why not keep a slightly lower speed to increase your own safety?

Sump

5,484 posts

166 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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My biggest gripe is that if cyclists want to share the road with vehicles then they need to cough up insurance.

https://youtu.be/nYOz86G_oYU?t=2m

Take that incident, if the cyclist came into contact and hit the door of something like a Veyron the owner is going to have to cough up. The cyclist can just do a runner.


Mr Gear

9,416 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Sump said:
My biggest gripe is that if cyclists want to share the road with vehicles then they need to cough up insurance.

https://youtu.be/nYOz86G_oYU?t=2m

Take that incident, if the cyclist came into contact and hit the door of something like a Veyron the owner is going to have to cough up. The cyclist can just do a runner.
I actually do have fully comp insurance for my bike. I expect a lot of people do.

Did you know there are thousands of cars on the roads of this country that are uninsured?

I can't be bothered to watch the clip, but how do you know who is insured and who isn't?

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Finlandia said:
I ask again, why not keep a slightly lower speed to increase your own safety?
Why not indeed? Do you? Do you slow down to a crawl for every side road just in case someone pulls out?

Finlandia

7,803 posts

230 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Mr Gear said:
Finlandia said:
I ask again, why not keep a slightly lower speed to increase your own safety?
Why not indeed? Do you? Do you slow down to a crawl for every side road just in case someone pulls out?
I slow down when I need to. Do you keep going at 70 in thick fog or torrential rain on a Mway, or do you slow down?

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Finlandia said:
I slow down when I need to. Do you keep going at 70 in thick fog or torrential rain on a Mway, or do you slow down?
I slow down. Some people don't. That's why there are pile-ups in the fog.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

230 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Mr Gear said:
Finlandia said:
I slow down when I need to. Do you keep going at 70 in thick fog or torrential rain on a Mway, or do you slow down?
I slow down. Some people don't. That's why there are pile-ups in the fog.
Good, do you slow down when you're cycling too?

PHmember

2,487 posts

170 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Sump said:
My biggest gripe is that if cyclists want to share the road with vehicles then they need to cough up insurance.

https://youtu.be/nYOz86G_oYU?t=2m

Take that incident, if the cyclist came into contact and hit the door of something like a Veyron the owner is going to have to cough up. The cyclist can just do a runner.
Members of British Cycling get liability insurance included in their membership.

Mave

8,208 posts

214 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Sump said:
My biggest gripe is that if cyclists want to share the road with vehicles then they need to cough up insurance.

https://youtu.be/nYOz86G_oYU?t=2m

Take that incident, if the cyclist came into contact and hit the door of something like a Veyron the owner is going to have to cough up. The cyclist can just do a runner.
In your scenario, the veyron owner can sue the cyclist. Worst case realistic scenario the veyron owner is a few grand out of pocket.

Take the opposite situation where a motorist causes physical harm to a cyclist. Worst case realistic scenario is the cyclist is dead. Where is the recourse for the cyclist?

Oh, and you do realise there are more uninsured drivers than uninsured cyclists, right?

SlipStream77

2,153 posts

190 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Mave said:
Oh, and you do realise there are more uninsured drivers than uninsured cyclists, right?
Do you have some sources for that? I'd be interested to read the statistics.

MrTrilby

935 posts

281 months

Saturday 5th September 2015
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Gaz. said:
Ignore the Veyron comment, if someone damaged something of yours and ran off I would expect you to be pretty fed up at being out of pocket.
I'd be more fed up if someone put me in hospital and cost me a month off work and 12 months getting back to full health, than if someone dented my car door., regardless of whether they ran off or not.