Are matrix signs deliberately useless?

Are matrix signs deliberately useless?

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sim72

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4,945 posts

134 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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I forgot one that really boiled my piss last week - coming home westbound around 10pm along the A14 to find it was shut for roadworks from Junction 2 to Catthorpe. First sign that mentioned this? At Junction 4. If it'd been signposted earlier I could have come off at J13 and gone A45/M1. As it was I had to blunder round the Leicestershire countryside for half an hour.

Bodged

116 posts

110 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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>'Are matrix signs deliberately useless?'

Not deliberately but they are useless

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Blame the monkey.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 30th August 2015
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Jezzerh said:
'SPRAY SLOW DOWN' when it stopped raining four hours ago. Total white elephant.
When did you last see that one, i was under the impression it was canned off a long time ago for the reasons you mention and even the billions of terminally stupid 'driving' on our motorways 'should' be able to work that out.

The problem is they try and work to the lowest, thickest common denominator and that is some task smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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k-ink said:
Blame the monkey.
Monkeys desk setup smile Each monkey has many screens and phones smile

Acehood

1,326 posts

174 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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There's a succession of 3 of those stupid signs on my way to work via the M1. Most days they all say "CHECK YOUR FUEL LEVEL"

Thank you, captain obvious. Really useful, since it's at least 15 miles until the next motorway junction / services. Not that I'd fking drive down the M1 without sufficient fuel in the first place.

Mr Tidy

22,252 posts

127 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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speedyguy said:
Monkeys desk setup smile Each monkey has many screens and phones smile
And no f*****g connection with reality - T***S!

CoolHands

18,604 posts

195 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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"DEBRIS IN ROAD"

Used to see it a lot on the m40 into london. Always bks.

ging84

8,883 posts

146 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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The ones i have come to hate the most are the keep left unless over taking signs.
You would have thought such a sign would be a good reminder to the middle lane morons to use the inside lane, but a few conversations with some of these simple minded folk has revealed some of them honestly don't think that you are meant to, and these signs actually serve to reinforce thier opinion that it's perfectly reasonable to sit in the middle lane all of the time, or why would they some times need to put up the signs telling you to move over if you were meant to do it anyway.

R1 Indy

4,382 posts

183 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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It appears the French ones (near Orange) display your number plate and tell you off!

However wasn't sure what the message after actually said, i must of upset the French somehow hehe

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

190 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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ging84 said:
The ones i have come to hate the most are the keep left unless over taking signs.
You would have thought such a sign would be a good reminder to the middle lane morons to use the inside lane, but a few conversations with some of these simple minded folk has revealed some of them honestly don't think that you are meant to, and these signs actually serve to reinforce thier opinion that it's perfectly reasonable to sit in the middle lane all of the time, or why would they some times need to put up the signs telling you to move over if you were meant to do it anyway.
God, these people are dense.

I agree though in that this message serves no immediate purpose. They are completely ignored by the sheeple. I think it comes down to he sheeple not liking being told what to do, so they dig in and openly defy the signs, blissfully carrying on with their rolling roadblock antics.

s.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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xxChrisxx said:
You are absolutely right. The matrix people should get your itinerary and only provide information to your specific journey.
They are useless, what use is Delays to anyone. 5 minute delay or 5 hours?

spikey78

701 posts

181 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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'Queue ahead' is usually displayed on my way to work, thus causing a queue as the retards slow down to look for it

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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MarshPhantom said:
xxChrisxx said:
You are absolutely right. The matrix people should get your itinerary and only provide information to your specific journey.
They are useless, what use is Delays to anyone. 5 minute delay or 5 hours?
Old, but have a read to enlighten you a bit https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/matrix_boar...
'Delays' = something like an average journey time over the usual of about 10 mins, off the top of my head it then defaults to 'long' or 'severe' delays for delays over half an hour, an RCC bod will be more informed.
If you read the right docs (It is available somewhere).

john2443

6,336 posts

211 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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I've seen things like Long delays A31 after B321 when I'm going down the M23 towards Brighton. After thinking for a while I worked out that this is in the New Forest, west of Southampton, so miles away and if you were heading for the A31 from the M25 you're very unlikely to go down the M23 at all.

I did see one that was correct (but I didn't believe) on the M25 'Pedestrians in road' - usually it means someone's walking on the hard shoulder from their car to a phone, but that day there was a bloke walking between lane 3 and the central crash barriers!

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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speedyguy said:
MarshPhantom said:
xxChrisxx said:
You are absolutely right. The matrix people should get your itinerary and only provide information to your specific journey.
They are useless, what use is Delays to anyone. 5 minute delay or 5 hours?
Old, but have a read to enlighten you a bit https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/matrix_boar...
'Delays' = something like an average journey time over the usual of about 10 mins, off the top of my head it then defaults to 'long' or 'severe' delays for delays over half an hour, an RCC bod will be more informed.
If you read the right docs (It is available somewhere).
We got stuck for over 4 hrs on the M4 near Reading a few months back. The numerous boards had said Accident Delays when the westbound had been closed for hours.

TorqueVR

1,838 posts

199 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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Here's an example from the M4/M5 interchange last Thursday - all the odd matrix limits were set at 60mph and all the evens were set at 50mph. It seemed to me that the sole purpose was to simply catch drivers out and then nick them for speeding past the 50 signs.

DKS

1,674 posts

184 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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The M3/ M27 ones show "Caution Queue ahead" with a 50 or even 40 limit which is blatantly still on from the previous night's rush hour. Quite a few Saturday mornings dropping the missus to work on a totally empty motorway at 7am with these stupid signs telling me nonsense. Not that anyone obeys the limits these signs suggest anyway and half the time I don't blame them.

motco

15,941 posts

246 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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More than once I have seen a sign saying that the time to reach junction x 30 miles away is (say) 27 minutes. Average speed in excess of 60mph needed to do that. How come that the very next gantry has a 50 mph mandatory limit showing? Arse and elbow...

Jezzerh

816 posts

122 months

Monday 31st August 2015
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spikey78 said:
'Queue ahead' is usually displayed on my way to work, thus causing a queue as the retards slow down to look for it
Ugh yes this one. Or 'INCIDENT SLOW DOWN' for three junctions and no sign of an incident.

There was one in the M1 roadworks that said 'LETS ALL GET HOME SAFELY'. Thanks for the advice champ!