The more I look the less I find...
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confused_buyer said:
danlightbulb said:
Right thanks. So the saab 93 is based on the vauxhall vectra platform, does that make it bigger than a focus?
It is a bit bigger, but not a lot. It certainly isn't a "large" Estate with a moderately sized boot. The 3-Series, A4, V50, 9-3, C-Class are all roughly in the same size/class. The 5-Series, A6, V70, 9-5, E-Class are all roughly also in the same class.
If you need a "large" Estate you probably want to be looking at the latter ones.
danlightbulb said:
swisstoni said:
Or a Mondeo that only needs a few bob spent on it to last a few more years. Oh ....
Mot is tomorrow so ill know then how much it will cost to keep it going. Natural to want a change after 9 years in the same car isnt it. Pebbles167 said:
Buy a shogun sport?
Don't I have 2006 version, it is a hateful thing, so undergeared that you are in 5th at 30mph, any mechanical sympathy will prevent you doing more than 65mph. It handles like a walrus on ice and is just nasty, a huge mistake.Would anyone like to buy an immaculate 2006 shogun sport........no thought not
noell35 said:
Right. Well
1) Decide how much you want to spend.
2) Put it in to autotrader + & - £1000.
3) Sort the cars by a) nearest first or b) Price high-low
4) If you see a car you like read the reviews on Parkers, Honest John & What Car
5) Repeat from 2 for ebay and possibly gumtree
5) Narrow it down to 3 cars
6) If you need more info on any of the 3 cars ask in here.
7) Choose 1 car.
Any questions?
This is the key to bangernomics, buy on condition and overall value, make and model are irrelevant. 1) Decide how much you want to spend.
2) Put it in to autotrader + & - £1000.
3) Sort the cars by a) nearest first or b) Price high-low
4) If you see a car you like read the reviews on Parkers, Honest John & What Car
5) Repeat from 2 for ebay and possibly gumtree
5) Narrow it down to 3 cars
6) If you need more info on any of the 3 cars ask in here.
7) Choose 1 car.
Any questions?
Gargamel said:
This is the key to bangernomics, buy on condition and overall value, make and model are irrelevant.
I know its not a huge amount of money compared to what some of the company director types claim to drive around in on here, but a 6k car isn't usually a banger by any means. There's still quite a lot of choice. In the interests of keeping this thread going even longer, and at the same time dispensing what I believe to be genuinely good advice, go with the Mazda 6 2.5.
I've heard nothing but good things about them and it will be more than fast enough to entertain after that Mondeo you if you're happy to rev it out. It's Japanese, it has no turbo to break on you, it's big, it looks cool, it's meant to handle better than a Saab or Volvo, they're available at reasonable mileages from comfortably below £6k and you've got the choice of an estate or hatchback. I'm probably going to get one myself the next time I buy.
I've heard nothing but good things about them and it will be more than fast enough to entertain after that Mondeo you if you're happy to rev it out. It's Japanese, it has no turbo to break on you, it's big, it looks cool, it's meant to handle better than a Saab or Volvo, they're available at reasonable mileages from comfortably below £6k and you've got the choice of an estate or hatchback. I'm probably going to get one myself the next time I buy.
Ghost91 said:
Gargamel said:
This is the key to bangernomics, buy on condition and overall value, make and model are irrelevant.
I know its not a huge amount of money compared to what some of the company director types claim to drive around in on here, but a 6k car isn't usually a banger by any means. There's still quite a lot of choice. Bangernomics is fun, if you buy a pile of crap sell it on or run it until it longer runs/passes it's mot
Once you get to around £5000 your not quite spending enough to get a really good warranty but your spending enough that your tied into the car.
Ghost91 said:
I know its not a huge amount of money compared to what some of the company director types claim to drive around in on here, but a 6k car isn't usually a banger by any means. There's still quite a lot of choice.
Sorry I was referring to the £1000 in that post not the op's budget. I have a Jag s type with 120,000 miles on it, I have had it for two years, sailed both MOT's - 3 litre, 240bhp and a lovely thing.
I paid £1560...
At 6k you can get a lot of car for your money, but the principal of buying on condition is valid.
I completely agree with both of the above posts, and condition is very important.
To be honest, if it were me - and it has been in the past, I would buy a cheap car that's fast and/or fun, and keep the rest in the bank for fuel and fixing it/buying next cheap car if it breaks instead of hoping the advice on a forum will get him into an unbreakable, fast, economical, newish, cheap to fix, good looking and practical 4x4 or big saloon or what about an estate, or maybe The VED is too much on this car that's 2k under budget so I'm writing it off entirely.
When I was 19 and equally as skint as the OP must be, I had 3k to spend on a car. At that price though It would of had to never really go wrong or Id be unable to pay the rent. I bought a 950 quid saab 9-3 convertible (on condition, no service history but it was immaculate, obviously garaged), and kept the other 2k for fuel and tax and repairs, luckily it only cost me an oil change in 2 years of hard abuse, was stylish enough and didn't financially ruin me - this is surely the best option with some sort of 4x4 or whatever for the OP. Cheap cool 4x4, money left in the just incase find is better than a 6k car that's in the awkward in between zone and could go bang just like anything - I'd rather a 1500 quid car go bang with a just incase fund than a 6k one without a backup plan. Who cares about the road tax and fuel if it's cheap enough, and it'll open up a lot more options.
This thread is doing my head in a bit but for some reason I keep coming back to look!
To be honest, if it were me - and it has been in the past, I would buy a cheap car that's fast and/or fun, and keep the rest in the bank for fuel and fixing it/buying next cheap car if it breaks instead of hoping the advice on a forum will get him into an unbreakable, fast, economical, newish, cheap to fix, good looking and practical 4x4 or big saloon or what about an estate, or maybe The VED is too much on this car that's 2k under budget so I'm writing it off entirely.
When I was 19 and equally as skint as the OP must be, I had 3k to spend on a car. At that price though It would of had to never really go wrong or Id be unable to pay the rent. I bought a 950 quid saab 9-3 convertible (on condition, no service history but it was immaculate, obviously garaged), and kept the other 2k for fuel and tax and repairs, luckily it only cost me an oil change in 2 years of hard abuse, was stylish enough and didn't financially ruin me - this is surely the best option with some sort of 4x4 or whatever for the OP. Cheap cool 4x4, money left in the just incase find is better than a 6k car that's in the awkward in between zone and could go bang just like anything - I'd rather a 1500 quid car go bang with a just incase fund than a 6k one without a backup plan. Who cares about the road tax and fuel if it's cheap enough, and it'll open up a lot more options.
This thread is doing my head in a bit but for some reason I keep coming back to look!
Edited by Ghost91 on Monday 7th September 16:51
Ghost91 said:
I completely agree with both of the above posts, and condition is very important.
To be honest, if it were me - and it has been in the past, I would buy a cheap car that's fast and/or fun, and keep the rest in the bank for fuel and fixing it/buying next cheap car if it breaks instead of hoping the advice on a forum will get him into an unbreakable, fast, economical, newish, cheap to fix, good looking and practical 4x4 or big saloon or what about an estate, or maybe The VED is too much on this car that's 2k under budget so I'm writing it off entirely.
This thread is doing my head in a bit but for some reason I keep coming back to look!
I only read it to try to help me understand indecisive people ..... not sure it has helped me. To be honest, if it were me - and it has been in the past, I would buy a cheap car that's fast and/or fun, and keep the rest in the bank for fuel and fixing it/buying next cheap car if it breaks instead of hoping the advice on a forum will get him into an unbreakable, fast, economical, newish, cheap to fix, good looking and practical 4x4 or big saloon or what about an estate, or maybe The VED is too much on this car that's 2k under budget so I'm writing it off entirely.
This thread is doing my head in a bit but for some reason I keep coming back to look!
I have another car, a Nissan Pathfinder, I know the OP looked at these earlier. Mine is a 2005, now has 130,000 on it, cost 500 in VED a year (ouch) doesn't have a DPF... rock solid engine, on it's second clutch (may shortly need a third) and averages 35mpg for a huge 2.5 TDi. Personally I don't think you can fault it, I paid £9000 for it at auction six years ago. In that time it has cost about £1200 in repairs, and servicing, tyres and a set of brakes. probably worth about £2k now. If you really need seven seats and 4x4 regularly it is well worth it.
If you don't really need 4 wheel drive and seven seats, DON'T BUY ONE they cost more to run than a Mondeo
This has been an interesting thread for me, somewhat like the OP I have a bit of a hangup, but to do with FWD. I keep looking at 3 and 5 series BMWs, and C and E class Mercs, however a Mazda6 or Mondeo looks much more sensible if I allow my head to rule.
The problem with the 5er and E class is I keep looking at the V8s, but given what I really need is something that can lug decent amounts of stuff around and none of them are going to be sports cars, something like a Titanium X 2.0 ecoboost for half the money makes more sense.
The problem with the 5er and E class is I keep looking at the V8s, but given what I really need is something that can lug decent amounts of stuff around and none of them are going to be sports cars, something like a Titanium X 2.0 ecoboost for half the money makes more sense.
Gargamel said:
I only read it to try to help me understand indecisive people ..... not sure it has helped me.
I have another car, a Nissan Pathfinder, I know the OP looked at these earlier. Mine is a 2005, now has 130,000 on it, cost 500 in VED a year (ouch) doesn't have a DPF... rock solid engine, on it's second clutch (may shortly need a third) and averages 35mpg for a huge 2.5 TDi. Personally I don't think you can fault it, I paid £9000 for it at auction six years ago. In that time it has cost about £1200 in repairs, and servicing, tyres and a set of brakes. probably worth about £2k now. If you really need seven seats and 4x4 regularly it is well worth it.
If you don't really need 4 wheel drive and seven seats, DON'T BUY ONE they cost more to run than a Mondeo
I can see this thread is frustrating people now. I have asked alot of stupid questions. Its not that Im trying to be indecisive on purpose, but rather that I am keen to examine all the options before making a decision. £6k is alot of cash for me, have to raise finance for it, so I just wanted to make sure I cover the bases. And yes I was dreaming a little on what I could get for the money I see that.I have another car, a Nissan Pathfinder, I know the OP looked at these earlier. Mine is a 2005, now has 130,000 on it, cost 500 in VED a year (ouch) doesn't have a DPF... rock solid engine, on it's second clutch (may shortly need a third) and averages 35mpg for a huge 2.5 TDi. Personally I don't think you can fault it, I paid £9000 for it at auction six years ago. In that time it has cost about £1200 in repairs, and servicing, tyres and a set of brakes. probably worth about £2k now. If you really need seven seats and 4x4 regularly it is well worth it.
If you don't really need 4 wheel drive and seven seats, DON'T BUY ONE they cost more to run than a Mondeo
I don't really need 4 wheel drive. 7 seats would be nice to have but I can make do without for a while yet at least. However, I don't really need 200+ bhp either do I, for driving at 30mph/40mph/50mph around the roads of the west midlands. So what's the difference? How many of us here could get away with a 1.0l micra for 99% of the time? I bet lots of us could. I think everything I look at that isn't a mondeo is going to cost me more to run than my mondeo. But I would like something different after 9 years of farts and kids sweets trod into the carpet, and it would be nice to treat myself to something with a bit of power for once, as I've never owned a fast car (due to insurance costs).
Ghost91 said:
I completely agree with both of the above posts, and condition is very important.
To be honest, if it were me - and it has been in the past, I would buy a cheap car that's fast and/or fun, and keep the rest in the bank for fuel and fixing it/buying next cheap car if it breaks instead of hoping the advice on a forum will get him into an unbreakable, fast, economical, newish, cheap to fix, good looking and practical 4x4 or big saloon or what about an estate, or maybe The VED is too much on this car that's 2k under budget so I'm writing it off entirely.
When I was 19 and equally as skint as the OP must be, I had 3k to spend on a car. At that price though It would of had to never really go wrong or Id be unable to pay the rent. I bought a 950 quid saab 9-3 convertible (on condition, no service history but it was immaculate, obviously garaged), and kept the other 2k for fuel and tax and repairs, luckily it only cost me an oil change in 2 years of hard abuse, was stylish enough and didn't financially ruin me - this is surely the best option with some sort of 4x4 or whatever for the OP. Cheap cool 4x4, money left in the just incase find is better than a 6k car that's in the awkward in between zone and could go bang just like anything - I'd rather a 1500 quid car go bang with a just incase fund than a 6k one without a backup plan. Who cares about the road tax and fuel if it's cheap enough, and it'll open up a lot more options.
This thread is doing my head in a bit but for some reason I keep coming back to look!
I am not skint as such, but not well off either. I can afford to run a car but I can't really afford any expensive repairs (credit cards had to be used in the past on the Mondy repairs). I think your point about the just in case fund is very valid. Maybe I should look older and keep cash in the bank to do as you suggest. However reliability is important to me and I'm concerned I wouldn't get that with an older car. Its not repairs that I mind (as such) but breaking down somewhere.To be honest, if it were me - and it has been in the past, I would buy a cheap car that's fast and/or fun, and keep the rest in the bank for fuel and fixing it/buying next cheap car if it breaks instead of hoping the advice on a forum will get him into an unbreakable, fast, economical, newish, cheap to fix, good looking and practical 4x4 or big saloon or what about an estate, or maybe The VED is too much on this car that's 2k under budget so I'm writing it off entirely.
When I was 19 and equally as skint as the OP must be, I had 3k to spend on a car. At that price though It would of had to never really go wrong or Id be unable to pay the rent. I bought a 950 quid saab 9-3 convertible (on condition, no service history but it was immaculate, obviously garaged), and kept the other 2k for fuel and tax and repairs, luckily it only cost me an oil change in 2 years of hard abuse, was stylish enough and didn't financially ruin me - this is surely the best option with some sort of 4x4 or whatever for the OP. Cheap cool 4x4, money left in the just incase find is better than a 6k car that's in the awkward in between zone and could go bang just like anything - I'd rather a 1500 quid car go bang with a just incase fund than a 6k one without a backup plan. Who cares about the road tax and fuel if it's cheap enough, and it'll open up a lot more options.
This thread is doing my head in a bit but for some reason I keep coming back to look!
At the risk of extending the thread even further, what £1500 options would be good to look at, assuming I've settled on a decent sized estate and would like a bit of power to go with it?
I did always used to like the accord's. Something like this one? 188bhp 7.9s to 60. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
I can see the appeal of not having money tied up in a car, and having another £1500 in the bank to chop and change it at a minutes notice if needed.
Just checked how much to insure. £1 cheaper than my diesel mondy lol. Bloody amazing, a 188 bhp car.
I can see the appeal of not having money tied up in a car, and having another £1500 in the bank to chop and change it at a minutes notice if needed.
Just checked how much to insure. £1 cheaper than my diesel mondy lol. Bloody amazing, a 188 bhp car.
Edited by danlightbulb on Monday 7th September 20:41
Edited by danlightbulb on Monday 7th September 20:49
Japanese non turbo, well maintained with no rust.
I drove a 168k CR-v last week with an auto box on a 55 plate - worth about 2k, and I was very surprised at how nice it was. Not saying you should have one of these, just demonstrating that older high mileage stuff is still very good. I'm constantly amazed by what £1000 will get you.
I drove a 168k CR-v last week with an auto box on a 55 plate - worth about 2k, and I was very surprised at how nice it was. Not saying you should have one of these, just demonstrating that older high mileage stuff is still very good. I'm constantly amazed by what £1000 will get you.
OP - you are suffering from what my old Boss used to call "Analysis Paralysis"
I think your list further up the thread where you listed what you like was what in your shoes I would be focusing on. With your budget I'd be buying on condition and service history etc etc.
If this comes across rude, apologies its not meant to...
You're at the point now where any thing further here you ask or do is just going to get you more confused and going around and around in circles. Step away from the computer go and look at some of the cars you have listed here :
I.e. these ones that you posted about earlier as you seem to keep coming back to cars on this list:
Saab 9-3 or 9-5, volvo v50, mazda6 or ford mondy
If you carry on you'll end up with the Mondeo you still have now, possibly with a massive bill to get it through its MOT which I can understand why you are concerned about...
Good luck !
I think your list further up the thread where you listed what you like was what in your shoes I would be focusing on. With your budget I'd be buying on condition and service history etc etc.
If this comes across rude, apologies its not meant to...
You're at the point now where any thing further here you ask or do is just going to get you more confused and going around and around in circles. Step away from the computer go and look at some of the cars you have listed here :
I.e. these ones that you posted about earlier as you seem to keep coming back to cars on this list:
Saab 9-3 or 9-5, volvo v50, mazda6 or ford mondy
If you carry on you'll end up with the Mondeo you still have now, possibly with a massive bill to get it through its MOT which I can understand why you are concerned about...
Good luck !
Not annoyed OP, I understand where you are coming from.
As I have revealed my two cars collectively are worth about three grand, but the jag is a lovely thing and the Nissan is a bomb proof family wagon, it did 3000 miles to the south of France and back in two weeks, all perfect.
Cars are. lovely decision, so take your time, but be realistic too.
As I have revealed my two cars collectively are worth about three grand, but the jag is a lovely thing and the Nissan is a bomb proof family wagon, it did 3000 miles to the south of France and back in two weeks, all perfect.
Cars are. lovely decision, so take your time, but be realistic too.
danlightbulb said:
£6k is alot of cash for me, have to raise finance for it,
Then stop pissing about looking a cars that will ruin you. It sounds like you actually just need reliable family transport, yet you have looked at all sorts of cars that would make a huge mess of you £6,000. So look at CARS (not motorbikes, horses, vans, small aeroplanes, motorhomes, sports coupes or 4x4's) in the small adds that fit your kids in and have been looked after. Bonus points awarded to cars that are known to be reliable. Then buy one. You're not interested in colour, whether the alloy wheels match the interior or sports suspension. All you are interested in is, will the kids seats fit in, has the car been looked after, does it have a reputation for reliability, can you afford it. Holy f
k is this thread still going on?
Buy a Honda Accord or toyota avensis petrol estate for 2k, spend 500 quid refreshing bits that'll make it drive like a newer car, bank the rest, job jobbed. I had the 2.4 vtec accord estate and it was quick, reasonably economical, had all the toys I wanted (executive trim) and in 6 years of ownership it cost me tyres, servicing, brakes and fuel. That's it. They still look new enough.
Failing that spend your 6k on a brand new dacia sandero with a warranty and stop asking inane questions. If it breaks and you need to be using a credit card for repairs surely spending 6k on a car with a loan isn't the best idea?
k is this thread still going on? Buy a Honda Accord or toyota avensis petrol estate for 2k, spend 500 quid refreshing bits that'll make it drive like a newer car, bank the rest, job jobbed. I had the 2.4 vtec accord estate and it was quick, reasonably economical, had all the toys I wanted (executive trim) and in 6 years of ownership it cost me tyres, servicing, brakes and fuel. That's it. They still look new enough.
Failing that spend your 6k on a brand new dacia sandero with a warranty and stop asking inane questions. If it breaks and you need to be using a credit card for repairs surely spending 6k on a car with a loan isn't the best idea?
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