Emergency Brake Assist.
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Why can't I turn it off?
I'm 'out for a drive' merrily along my way, start to brake for a corner and get WAY more brakes than I wanted, now i'm going too slow for the corner.
The worst part of it, as you're hanging out of your seatbelt, theres no modulation on the EBA, you have to come completely off the brakes and start again!!
It's just dangerous, what if someone is following you and BAM, your EBA kicks in coming up to a roundabout. If you go 'too quickly' from the throttle to the brake pedal the brakes seem to panic and immediately assume everyone is going to die.
Anyone else despise EBA?
I'm 'out for a drive' merrily along my way, start to brake for a corner and get WAY more brakes than I wanted, now i'm going too slow for the corner.
The worst part of it, as you're hanging out of your seatbelt, theres no modulation on the EBA, you have to come completely off the brakes and start again!!
It's just dangerous, what if someone is following you and BAM, your EBA kicks in coming up to a roundabout. If you go 'too quickly' from the throttle to the brake pedal the brakes seem to panic and immediately assume everyone is going to die.
Anyone else despise EBA?
iamAlegend said:
Why can't I turn it off?
I'm 'out for a drive' merrily along my way, start to brake for a corner and get WAY more brakes than I wanted, now i'm going too slow for the corner.
The worst part of it, as you're hanging out of your seatbelt, theres no modulation on the EBA, you have to come completely off the brakes and start again!!
It's just dangerous, what if someone is following you and BAM, your EBA kicks in coming up to a roundabout. If you go 'too quickly' from the throttle to the brake pedal the brakes seem to panic and immediately assume everyone is going to die.
Anyone else despise EBA?
If it's an issue for anyone following you, then the problem is with them: clearly they're not leaving sufficient stopping distance.I'm 'out for a drive' merrily along my way, start to brake for a corner and get WAY more brakes than I wanted, now i'm going too slow for the corner.
The worst part of it, as you're hanging out of your seatbelt, theres no modulation on the EBA, you have to come completely off the brakes and start again!!
It's just dangerous, what if someone is following you and BAM, your EBA kicks in coming up to a roundabout. If you go 'too quickly' from the throttle to the brake pedal the brakes seem to panic and immediately assume everyone is going to die.
Anyone else despise EBA?
And in this instance, the fault is wither with your driving, or there's something up with the car. Do you not think that the manufacturers have thought of this?
It should only kick in if it sees a rapid rise in brake pressure. I.e. you stamp on the pedal as quickly as possible.
If you apply the brakes more smoothly (which is a much better driving technique for various reasons), building up the pressure, you shouldn't get the brake assist kicking in.
If you apply the brakes more smoothly (which is a much better driving technique for various reasons), building up the pressure, you shouldn't get the brake assist kicking in.
camelot1971 said:
I don't believe the Mondeo Mk3 has EBA - mine certainly hasn't!
http://workshop-manuals.com/ford/mondeo_2001_10.2000-02.2007/mechanical_repairs/2_chassis/206_brake_system/206-09a_anti-lock_control/description_and_operation/anti-lock_control_vehicles_built_from_06-2003_vehicles_with_stability_assist/I only realised my wife's E46 had this when it was mentioned on here and I checked the user guide. It explained why, on a couple of occasions, when I went on to the brakes quickly due to someone pulling out the car braked to a hard stop rather than just shedding a bit of speed quickly as I wanted.
It seems a few people have been caught out by it even in a better developed car than mine!
It's not happening all the time, but more often that i'd like. Most of the time i'll be braking smoothly and progressively, but for instance if you come off the throttle very quickly and quickly move the brake pedal to the bite point, the EBA takes over, so now at the bite point is a solid vibrating pedal. (1bhp 1.8l with barely any engine braking so this doesn't cause many balance issues)
Is there maybe a fuse I could take out? After 30,000 miles in the car this year, I've yet to see the benefit, only the hinderance :P
It's not happening all the time, but more often that i'd like. Most of the time i'll be braking smoothly and progressively, but for instance if you come off the throttle very quickly and quickly move the brake pedal to the bite point, the EBA takes over, so now at the bite point is a solid vibrating pedal. (1bhp 1.8l with barely any engine braking so this doesn't cause many balance issues)
Is there maybe a fuse I could take out? After 30,000 miles in the car this year, I've yet to see the benefit, only the hinderance :P
I set this off on our V70 once, came off the throttle very quickly and onto the brake just as quickly and the car braked seriously hard even as I came off the brake.
I believe there are earlier mechanical based systems and current electronic systems, if your car has an early version based on something in the master cylinder (from memory) then maybe there is a mechanical fault? Otherwise you must have a seriously ham fisted approach to using the brakes, I've never set it off in any other car despite some very heavy planned braking and the odd emergency use of the brakes.
I believe there are earlier mechanical based systems and current electronic systems, if your car has an early version based on something in the master cylinder (from memory) then maybe there is a mechanical fault? Otherwise you must have a seriously ham fisted approach to using the brakes, I've never set it off in any other car despite some very heavy planned braking and the odd emergency use of the brakes.
cptsideways said:
Its set off by the speed of brake application only, nothing to do with brake pressure. Hence why you can set it off with one finger on the brake pedal if you know how 
Dont ask how I know this
Speed of closing of the throttle as well. Some cars have this disabled when the ESP is switched off. Dont ask how I know this
I had a very early Citroen C5 estate brand new. The car was a great place to be but it had one fault and that was the emergency brake assist. Every so often you would press the brake pedal and it would be hard and the car was not slowing as one would expect, then the EBA seemed to be linked in to my brain, just as I thought this isn't stopping. it would stand the car on it's nose.
Citroen had it for 2 months, where it did the same for their technical expert from France, before declaring it was a "characteristic" and not a problem.
Too many gizmos I feel are a bad thing.
Citroen had it for 2 months, where it did the same for their technical expert from France, before declaring it was a "characteristic" and not a problem.
Too many gizmos I feel are a bad thing.
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