Seeking advice on an odd situation with a pre-reg BMW car.
Discussion
ModernAndy said:
OP, I see your point but I don't think there's much you can do. I'd be a bit pissed off too but I'm not sure I could blame the dealer and would just hope that it had at least stayed in the protective wrapping while it was sitting.
I suppose it comes down to how we class things as 'new'. It certainly isn't unusual to buy things that have been boxed up for quite a while unless you buy only the latest stuff.
It's done and in the grand scheme of things I think it's better for you to just move on and learn what to look for next time.
Thanks Andy.I suppose it comes down to how we class things as 'new'. It certainly isn't unusual to buy things that have been boxed up for quite a while unless you buy only the latest stuff.
It's done and in the grand scheme of things I think it's better for you to just move on and learn what to look for next time.
OP, I don't see, from what you have posted, that you have any real recourse.
Checking MY is a basic step if you are that bothered as to which MY your car is when you buy it. Just as much as if it has air/leather/DAB/is the right colour.
For most it matters not. For those of us who are interested in having the very latest spec our money can buy it is more important.
Above all else though, when buying a new car, you should always think of those fields and fields of unsold motors you oftern see pictures of and ask yourself the question "When did this car leave the factory doors?"
Checking MY is a basic step if you are that bothered as to which MY your car is when you buy it. Just as much as if it has air/leather/DAB/is the right colour.
For most it matters not. For those of us who are interested in having the very latest spec our money can buy it is more important.
Above all else though, when buying a new car, you should always think of those fields and fields of unsold motors you oftern see pictures of and ask yourself the question "When did this car leave the factory doors?"
I can see your point OP and I wouldn't be overly pleased with it either, but most people will only ever look at what's on the numberplate and what's on the odometer so I really don't think it'll affect you in any way, even when you come to sell it. What are you hoping to get out of this whole scenario?
Not really sure mate, at the moment I just want to vent at the dealer principal as there was numerous other issues. I'm not expecting compensation or similar, I'm just interested as to their opinion on why/if they feel it's acceptable, for all I know it was just an oversight on their part not mentioning it or maybe they feel they didn't need to at all. As I mentioned earlier, 3-6 months old I wouldn't have batted an eyelid, at almost a year and a half I'd like to know if they know any history. If nothing else it'll give me something to explain to a buyer in future.
GP335i said:
Go easy lad, the only milk in this thread's coming from your mothers lactating breasts. Now kindly do one!
This sums up your entire attitude though. Maybe people like you simply shouldn't be allowed enough money to buy things irresponsibly, then go about crying about it afterwards.You are an adult FFS!!
It was/is YOUR responsibility to be happy with the item before buying.
At the time of purchase you obviously appeared happy with the car. Nothing has changed in this respect. The only difference is you are throwing your toys out of the pram as though you've been the victim of some major mis-justice.
Man up will you.
The reality is the only likely outcomes are:
1. You have a moment of clarity and realise that this actually makes no odds what so ever. And that had somebody not pointed it out to you, that you'd be none the wiser and simply accept that not checking things that might matter to you, is in fact 100% your fault and responsibility.
2. Continue to be a baby about it, blame the dealer, maybe blame BMW, hell even the chap down the road who you don't know, and has nothing to do with. Just blame anyone but yourself and refuse to be a grown up about it. Of course this won't change the car or the fact your bought it. But at least you can be content and resolute in your pig headed stubbornness.
GP335i said:
Ok, bit of a mouthful but here goes.
I purchased an M135i from a BMW main dealer garage (which shall remain nameless) that was pre-registered on 29-06-2015.
I assumed they had bought in some cars at a cheaper price to pre-register/sell as the lci model was just being released. The price was basically what a new one was costing with discount which I didn't mind as I was looking for a car there/then and I wasn't 100% sold on the lci's looks.
I then bought a new set of wheels and started researching whether or not I needed tyre pressure monitors or not. I found out that for a mid 2015 car my wheels should have had metal stems with sensors inside the wheels, they are rubber. Someone else then mentioned the car should have a round air bag steering wheel. Mine has the earlier triangular one. Other things like build week on the tyres confirm the earlier date.
With these points in mind I then searched the VIN number and found out it was built in FEBRUARY 2014!! It has sat around somewhere not being used with about 15 miles on the clock for 15 months apparently, sold to myself as a '15 plate and I assumed 2015 spec. At NO point did the dealer mention the vastly different build date, I've only picked up on it due to the small differences I've noticed.
Where do I stand with this? I'm obviously not happy about it and feeling cheated, rightly or wrongly. I have tried contacting the dealer principal but he isn't back into the garage until tomorrow.
This is why they are pre-reg'd and available at huge discount. I got £22k off the list price of mine. Ordered and reg'd 31st March '14, I collected on 3rd April - but the build date was November '13. When deals are too god to be true, it means there are physical cars sat around that they are incentivising you to buy - usually (as with your 135) when a facelift model is imminent, or already released.I purchased an M135i from a BMW main dealer garage (which shall remain nameless) that was pre-registered on 29-06-2015.
I assumed they had bought in some cars at a cheaper price to pre-register/sell as the lci model was just being released. The price was basically what a new one was costing with discount which I didn't mind as I was looking for a car there/then and I wasn't 100% sold on the lci's looks.
I then bought a new set of wheels and started researching whether or not I needed tyre pressure monitors or not. I found out that for a mid 2015 car my wheels should have had metal stems with sensors inside the wheels, they are rubber. Someone else then mentioned the car should have a round air bag steering wheel. Mine has the earlier triangular one. Other things like build week on the tyres confirm the earlier date.
With these points in mind I then searched the VIN number and found out it was built in FEBRUARY 2014!! It has sat around somewhere not being used with about 15 miles on the clock for 15 months apparently, sold to myself as a '15 plate and I assumed 2015 spec. At NO point did the dealer mention the vastly different build date, I've only picked up on it due to the small differences I've noticed.
Where do I stand with this? I'm obviously not happy about it and feeling cheated, rightly or wrongly. I have tried contacting the dealer principal but he isn't back into the garage until tomorrow.
GP335i said:
Will certainly check in future, seriously just never expected that a moderately in demand car could've sat around unused for 18 months!
This is certainly odd and there has to be a reason for it....However after just speed reading the thread, if it hasn't been already mentioned a car sitting for a year and a half FFS!!!!
are the fluids ok? has the engine oil perhaps gone acidic? are there flat spots on the tyres?
I really wouldn't be too pleased either TBH.
V8A*ndy said:
GP335i said:
Will certainly check in future, seriously just never expected that a moderately in demand car could've sat around unused for 18 months!
This is certainly odd and there has to be a reason for it....However after just speed reading the thread, if it hasn't been already mentioned a car sitting for a year and a half FFS!!!!
are the fluids ok? has the engine oil perhaps gone acidic? are there flat spots on the tyres?
I really wouldn't be too pleased either TBH.
The build date is on the drivers side door frame. I bought a pre-registered BMW in February and I saw that its build date was the November before so was happy with that.
I think its a case of "buyer beware". The build date is important and you should have checked before you bought it.
I think its a case of "buyer beware". The build date is important and you should have checked before you bought it.
The other thing I should have said is that it is fairly unusual for BMW/Audi/premium cars (excluding some barges like the A8 or Phaeton) but if you'd bought a particular Ford or Peugeot in a certain colour or with certain options it might not be far off the norm for a car to be sitting that long.
When I did vehicle leasing I actually had the opposite problem with a car and it took quite a bit of sorting out to satisfy the client. It was a VW Scirocco ordered just before the MY change and it was meant to have adaptive suspension on it but VW refreshed the spec and it came with sat nav (which was an extra) but without the adaptive suspension. The customer had ordered the car they wanted (and there was no warning the spec was going to change) but VW automatically updated the spec as the build slot was scheduled after the MY change. just one of those things, I was glad the client was a nice guy who was understanding though.
When I did vehicle leasing I actually had the opposite problem with a car and it took quite a bit of sorting out to satisfy the client. It was a VW Scirocco ordered just before the MY change and it was meant to have adaptive suspension on it but VW refreshed the spec and it came with sat nav (which was an extra) but without the adaptive suspension. The customer had ordered the car they wanted (and there was no warning the spec was going to change) but VW automatically updated the spec as the build slot was scheduled after the MY change. just one of those things, I was glad the client was a nice guy who was understanding though.
If you have 'deal-breaking' questions, it's probably a good idea to get them answered before buying.
Now that the horse has bolted, maybe you can use FB/Twitter to vent, get your family/friends to share/rt with as many mouth-breathers as possible and hope that BMW PR gets in touch to make things a bit better. I believe that's how it's done these days.
Now that the horse has bolted, maybe you can use FB/Twitter to vent, get your family/friends to share/rt with as many mouth-breathers as possible and hope that BMW PR gets in touch to make things a bit better. I believe that's how it's done these days.
I've seen a 1998 car should have been an S plate,which was registered new in 2000 on a w plate, and this was after the massively facelifted model had come out.
As long as theres no concerns over warranty (which it shouldn't really) then keep calm and carry on as they say.
Build date isn't reg date after all. It is simply when the car had a number plate given to it.
As long as theres no concerns over warranty (which it shouldn't really) then keep calm and carry on as they say.
Build date isn't reg date after all. It is simply when the car had a number plate given to it.
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