RE: Toyota GT86: PH Fleet

RE: Toyota GT86: PH Fleet

Tuesday 1st September 2015

Toyota GT86: PH Fleet

Five weeks and three thousand miles and the news is good from the GT86!



Call me old-fashioned if you will, but to drive 'my' GT86 hard from absolutely brand new didn't seem very fair. Yep, a journalist with some mechanical sympathy. As a compromise between the handbook and Toyota's instructions, there was no full throttle or more than 5,500rpm (ish) for the first thousand miles.

Amongst friends. And a CR-V
Amongst friends. And a CR-V
Pleasingly, the PH probation period went rather quickly. Driving up to Silverstone for the Juke-R test added another 200 miles, a Sunday at Simply Japanese clocked up a few more and very soon there were four figures on the odo.

But of course it was the North Coast 500 that contributed such a vast chunk of this month's remarkable mileage. And I have to say the Toyota was completely brilliant throughout the 1,500 miles of travelling up, around and back from Scotland.

It wasn't perfect though. And given long-term reports are about those everyday gripes a road test might not reveal, let's begin there. For starters, the stereo's maximum volume is 63. Not a problem in itself, but it makes some audiobooks and podcasts quite hard to listen to at motorway speeds. Though In Our Time probably isn't number one audio choice for most GT86 buyers...

Kielder Forest; can we go rallying?
Kielder Forest; can we go rallying?
The seats could use more lumbar support and, frustratingly, don't return to the position you had them when they're tilted forward. The mats are already wearing through. The headlights don't seem that bright. Finally, even when accustomed to the GT86, sixth can leave you a bit stuck at some motorway overtakes.

Crucially though, the GT86's myriad positives outweighed these flaws in Scotland easily. It was simply tremendous. The speed, size and responsiveness felt ideally suited to the NC500, never feeling out of its depth on the bigger roads or cumbersome on the smaller routes. It just felt better the harder it was driven, in comparison to the MX-5 which often seemed loose and a little vague when pushed.

Modified aplenty at Simply Japanese!
Modified aplenty at Simply Japanese!
The control weights are all in perfect sync, the driving position is superb and that feeling of the rear wheels minutely adjusting the car's attitude out of a corner is joyous. It even felt fast enough, although slightly closer gears would make it even better. Short of a Caterham or a 458 Speciale I can't think of anything I would have rather spent the time in than the little red '86. It even recorded more than 40mpg on the boring parts of the journey.

Away from the paradise I now call Scotland (really!) and in the real world, the GT86 continues to impress. There are lots of cubbyholes to throw everyday junk into, visibility is great and even the chunky ventilation controls for the Primo are an improvement on the standard car's fake toggles. As for the missing digital speedo, I've remembered which revs equal which speed in a certain gear. Sad but quite useful!

To be continued...
To be continued...
Finally, just in case this wasn't sounding like enough of a paean to the Primo, I've spent the past few days in Dan's M4 and am already looking forward to the '86's return. I think it's fantastic. Though some more aggressive wheels such as those found on the M4 would really improve the looks I think. That so many of the GT86s and BRZs at Simply Japanese were on aftermarket rims would suggest I'm not alone!

So a very positive first month for GY15 VFZ, more positive than I had evn predicted; long may it continue! Next month I want to drive it on track to test those Yokohamas properly and try one of the Heritage cars now being loaned out by Toyota. Gotta be the Castrol, hasn't it?


FACT SHEET
Car
: 2015 Toyota GT86 Primo
Run by: Matt 
On fleet since: July 2015
Mileage: 3,435
List price new: £22,495 (and £22,495 as tested! List price £22,700, GT86 Primo currently available with £205 dealer discount until September 30)
Last month at a glance: First day in what promises to be a blissful six months!

Previous reports:
Press car without a single option? Welcome the GT86 Primo!





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Discussion

cerb4.5lee

Original Poster:

30,563 posts

180 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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I do like these and from what I read the owners of them seem really happy with them too.

underphil

1,245 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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if you want the stereo louder than max, go into audio options and increase the bass, mid-range and treble settings

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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It'll get looser the more miles you put on it.
Collected mine three years ago today - still loving it. cool

patmahe

5,749 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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These do seem to be developing a following, unfortunately for me values will have to drop a long way for it to be a realistic option for me frown

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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underphil said:
if you want the stereo louder than max, go into audio options and increase the bass, mid-range and treble settings
Of course silly Will investigate. Thanks!

bobbsie

26 posts

104 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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"Finally, just in case this wasn't sounding like enough of a paean to the Primo, I've spent the past few days in Dan's M4 and am already looking forward to the '86's return. I think it's fantastic. "

many threads on here are addressing fun vs outright speed. M4 no doubt exceptionally capable, but not as engaging?

Matt, 'paean' and IOT, clearly a connoisseur!

Alex

9,975 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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I have a BRZ and my mate is getting a brand new M4 in about 3 weeks, so I will post my thoughts after I have driven both!

mrpushrod

68 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Matt, if you do get one of the Heritage GT86s then put your chiropractor on speed dial. I had the IMSA one for a week and at times felt like I was going to be bounced right out of the seat. The noise is also great when you're in the mood but does drone when you're not.

There now follows some blatant self promotion wink

http://www.thegayuk.com/magazine/4574334751/CAR-RE...

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Article said:
the stereo's maximum volume is 63
Mine goes up to eleven.

DevonPaul

1,183 posts

137 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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I agree about the seats - it is ridiculous. The same thing ruins MR2 ownership for me and means the car just gets used by the Mrs to commute.

In 1977 the Mk3 Capri had decent comfy seats (Ghia spec though), that returned to where you left them when you let someone in the back. Surely Toyota can manage the same nearly 30 years later. In fairness, the Maser has non-memory electric seats that don't go back where they came from. but in that it's called 'character'

LordGrover

33,539 posts

212 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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The seats are excellent. This is the first time I've seen anyone complain about them.

Alex

9,975 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Cotic said:
Mine goes up to eleven.
Why not just make 10 louder?

Robert Elise

956 posts

145 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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surprised by seat comments, they're one of the great points to my mind. very supportive and good for many hours.

Over a year in and i must say i'm really smitten with my 86. It's not a great DD for motorway/traffic/rough roads, but luckily it's not what i use it for.
It's a really engaging car that can perform daily duties and do long trips if needed, before returning to the back roads. I can respect the uber German machinery that's so very competent, but the 86 engages and makes you smile.
Minus points:
- engine
- stereo
- rough surface ride
- drivetrain transparent (ie harsh!)
- silly spoiler

Plus
- chassis feel
- seats!
- low CoG, you can feel the lump in other cars after the 86
- tyres, i quite like the Primacys, all part of the fun. Though i'll probably upgrade on changeover.

The 86 loses on just about all the stats people use to judge cars, and yet in wins in all the important areas. At the moment i'm planning on keeping the 86 longer term as it provides real fun on trips where i can't or won't take the Elise. Whilst i'd love an endless garage and a big Jag or Bentley Turbo R to waft around in, the 86 is enough of a GT car for me, and it is a compromise i know, it's no M4. Rather than a wafter, my garage lacks an I6 or V8. F-Type would complement nicely.

Animala

777 posts

162 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Alex said:
Cotic said:
Mine goes up to eleven.
Why not just make 10 louder?
..........this goes up to 11.

Black S2K

1,471 posts

249 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Hard to disagree with any of that.

It's not the lumbar support for me, inasmuch as I think the leading edge of the cushion is a tad too low and I feel like I keep sliding off. I have to use the footrest to shove my arse back into place. That may be the source of the problem, rather than the lumbar per se.

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Interesting to follow along, on those many miles. Thanks.

The exterior of this car should have been designed by a European. Better yet, a Briton. (I'm aware that some believe those two labels are exclusive. But there we are.)

An affordable British sports car with a certain je-ne-sais-wot in the form of a slinky / feline form. Would have been epic.

iloveboost

1,531 posts

162 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Animala said:
..........this goes up to 11.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc

Squadrone Rosso

2,752 posts

147 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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We've done 420 miles in ours in 16 days from brand new. And it's let us down. Currently off the road. Gutted as so much want to enjoy it.

Klippie

3,138 posts

145 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Guy at work has the TDR version...its bloody lovely I admire it every morning.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Squadrone Rosso said:
We've done 420 miles in ours in 16 days from brand new. And it's let us down. Currently off the road. Gutted as so much want to enjoy it.
Hopefully something minor?