£62k 2.0 Audi..... Company Car madness

£62k 2.0 Audi..... Company Car madness

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T5R+

1,225 posts

210 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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I like purchasers like this - 3 years down the line when it is worth say £18K +/- I would be tempted.


Sheepshanks

32,805 posts

120 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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mat205125 said:
In a "purchase" of this kind, does the theoretical list price ever actually matter, given that the sum of money involved has not, and will never, change hands.
It matters massively for tax - BIK is a percentage of the list price. Really annoying when you're paying tax on a value that the car would never sell for.

theboss

6,919 posts

220 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Slow said:
theboss said:
Don't know about anyone else but I'd far rather a £50k list 3.0TDI than a £62k 2.0TDI for what amounts to a near identical BIK bill.

Is there some other company policy at play, stating they will only order cars up to a certain CO2 category?
What if he does 40k miles a year and its purely for the mpg?
Ordering a car which is going to depreciate by at least £1k/month for some time in order to save a few pence per mile, strikes me as illogical.

OP do you know what he actually stands to pay for it rather than list?

The more I think about this the more I think it's insane - unless he's getting a 30% discount the monumental depreciation and total cost to the business will surely wipe out any BIK ssavings.

ReaperCushions

6,037 posts

185 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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k-ink said:
£60k! I wouldn't pay £6k for such a dull turd
But... I'm glad people do. So in a few years they enter the 'bargain barge' thread for buttons.

Mind you, a 2.0 derv would be shunned in that thread.

robemcdonald

8,806 posts

197 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Assuming he is in the higher tax band the car will cost him £440 per month on tax (assuming no private mileage allowance) the standard car would be around £240 each month.
£200 per month for 36 months £7200 out of his net income....
There are much better options.

robemcdonald

8,806 posts

197 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Assuming he is in the higher tax band the car will cost him £440 per month on tax (assuming no private mileage allowance) the standard car would be around £240 each month.
£200 per month for 36 months £7200 out of his net income....
There are much better options.

Matt UK

17,729 posts

201 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Problem is a lot of companies now have a company car Co2 ceiling that can't be breached, regardless of seniority.

I think companies can get a tax break if they commit certain fleet emissions (or so I was told). So senior bods end up maxing the options on a 2.0tdi to use up their allowances. The 3.0 will not even be on the list.

At my firm those who like cars have all opted out. The youngsters though still love the lowest Co2 German company car with the baddest body kit and biggest wheels. But then the office is always more fun when the reps are in, bless their little cotton socks.

Stenn

2,238 posts

135 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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I wonder, is it possible to buy a slower car for +£60k? hehe


shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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robemcdonald said:
Jezzerh said:
robemcdonald said:
I was going to call custard on this until I loaded up the configurator. Looks like he wasn't trying hard enough with the options though.

Jesus CHRIST. Go on then, what options did you pick? Oh, all of them!
That would be telling, but I'd be surprised if you could get it to cost more.
Missed custom paint colour!

robemcdonald

8,806 posts

197 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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If it were my choice I'd have to go with a tesla model S.

babo456

76 posts

119 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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Considering you can pick these fairly latest models up for as low 12k now (low spec, I know), that is a totally insane price!


Slow

6,973 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st September 2015
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theboss said:
Slow said:
theboss said:
Don't know about anyone else but I'd far rather a £50k list 3.0TDI than a £62k 2.0TDI for what amounts to a near identical BIK bill.

Is there some other company policy at play, stating they will only order cars up to a certain CO2 category?
What if he does 40k miles a year and its purely for the mpg?
Ordering a car which is going to depreciate by at least £1k/month for some time in order to save a few pence per mile, strikes me as illogical.

OP do you know what he actually stands to pay for it rather than list?

The more I think about this the more I think it's insane - unless he's getting a 30% discount the monumental depreciation and total cost to the business will surely wipe out any BIK ssavings.
Company emissions maximum maybe? Could be in a senior position but they still wont allow a higher co2. Could be any reason for this choice.

Justin Case

2,195 posts

135 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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[quote=currybum]With every single option ticked for a black line A6 2.0L ultra you can manage a list price of just shy of £65k...that include £6.3K of sound system, £3.5k of Tech pack, and £1.5k of aluminium inserts.

Those three things will come to £11.3k, and I thought would have been included in a car in that bracket in any case. So, can we find a better way of spending that amount, new used or pre-reg?

For starters, ask nicely and your money should get you this low mileage 2013 Alfa Giulietta smile:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...



TWPC

842 posts

162 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Stenn said:
I wonder, is it possible to buy a slower car for +£60k? hehe
The Land Rover Defender 90 Autobiography started at £61,845...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/defender/8...

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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£73k!? £73k!?

laugh

Dapster

6,967 posts

181 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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If you have the means, then wafting about in a barge with EVERY toy on the list, listening to your £6k B&O sound system and doing 60mpg for only £400 month sounds like quite a nice plan - all in something that isn't going to ps off your clients or staff too much either.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Loving that you can spec up a 2.0 Audi to 72k but some people have kittens over a 30k Golf R. smile

mat205125

17,790 posts

214 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Dapster said:
If you have the means, then wafting about in a barge with EVERY toy on the list, listening to your £6k B&O sound system and doing 60mpg for only £400 month sounds like quite a nice plan - all in something that isn't going to ps off your clients or staff too much either.
The last part of that is very important to consider for many people. yes

Limpet

6,322 posts

162 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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I've noticed a lot of cars moving towards this "personalisation" model with extensive (and expensive) options lists. Mrs Limpet has just ordered a new Mini convertible, and the choices are baffling quite honestly. And we passed on the "Open-ometer" which logs hours spent with the engine running and the roof down on a handy gauge for your...erm information.


Oilchange

8,468 posts

261 months

Wednesday 2nd September 2015
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Utter lunacy.

You have to hand it to Audi though, they have these idiot 'business' people by the balls.