Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 9]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 9]

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idiotgap

2,112 posts

133 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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cat220 said:
Krikkit said:
harrykul said:
W00DY said:
Interesting Jap import E55 in a rather grim white, but with a very low claimed mileage.




http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Didn't realise they got a different nav/centre console set-up over there. I like it.
It's also on the Jap spec 140. Pretty cool looking, in a retro way.
For 5 bags I'd expect a new boot badge and for them at least to try and clean the headlights up... Nice though.
Also prefer the looks on the original amg monoblocks.
Advert said:
with exclusive AMG graphite condor leather
How many condors do you need to trim a w210? I just can't get the thought of all those condors out of my head.


Edited by idiotgap on Monday 8th February 16:30

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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QuantumTokoloshi said:
0a said:
I didn't know there was a 320 version of these little C-Class Coupes. Seems good for under £2k and 72k miles. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...



Careful with these, Car mechanics magazine did a feature on one. The cost and number of repairs needed, known issues with them, certainly put it in Uber barge territory for sure.
Not to mention being quite the frumpiest mumsmobile that ever was.

idiotgap

2,112 posts

133 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Pennyroyal Tea said:
0a said:
I didn't know there was a 320 version of these little C-Class Coupes. Seems good for under £2k and 72k miles.
Definitely NOT a barge wink
The Don of Croy put forward his theory of relativity earlier, illustrated with the mention of a Belmont which made me think of the Nova saloon my mum had (which made the Belmont seem something of a barge).

I agree with his theory wholeheartedly. No car is a barge or not a barge (or not smoky), these are continuous spectra not binary states.

The title of this thread talks of smokyness, bargyness and the being the best. Any car can barge stuff around for you smokily... but is it the best?

Since all of these measures are subjective, the broad church we are so proud of is in our mandate, there is no such thing as a non-thread car and anything is fair game for discussion (within budget or a haggle thereof).

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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I think I would say a barge should be a comfortable machine, the kind that you get in after a hard day and relax a little, no matter what state the traffic and hustle bustle is before you.

Beyond that, it is indeed a spectra of bargeness, with the added dimension of smokerness, but a wide church nonetheless.


bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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A barge is not beige socks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r0FrXXKeiA

This amused me smile

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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CB 987

384 posts

147 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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0a said:
I didn't know there was a 320 version of these little C-Class Coupes. Seems good for under £2k and 72k miles. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...



I think the facelift ended up being badged as a C350, I can't imagine they sold very many! Interestingly they also produced a C32 AMG variant, but this was LHD only.

BrabusMog

20,146 posts

186 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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0a said:
The ride height looks a bit funny on that one. Interior looks tidy enough, though.

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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bob-lad said:
A barge is not beige socks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r0FrXXKeiA

This amused me smile
Got to love Christopher—how much did they have to pay him?—but this is everything that's wrong with modern cars: "With aggressive exterior styling, genuine Nappa leather seats, and a 2.0L GDI turbo engine..."

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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BrabusMog said:
0a said:
The ride height looks a bit funny on that one. Interior looks tidy enough, though.
Agreed, looks very low at the front.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Yep. Alarm bells ringing on that one.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Also has a fake S8 badge on the back if my eyes don't deceive.

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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Krikkit said:
Also has a fake S8 badge on the back if my eyes don't deceive.
Correct. As well as a blacked out Audi logo on the nose. I'm OOT!

matthias73

2,883 posts

150 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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idiotgap said:
The Don of Croy put forward his theory of relativity earlier, illustrated with the mention of a Belmont which made me think of the Nova saloon my mum had (which made the Belmont seem something of a barge).

I agree with his theory wholeheartedly. No car is a barge or not a barge (or not smoky), these are continuous spectra not binary states.

The title of this thread talks of smokyness, bargyness and the being the best. Any car can barge stuff around for you smokily... but is it the best?

Since all of these measures are subjective, the broad church we are so proud of is in our mandate, there is no such thing as a non-thread car and anything is fair game for discussion (within budget or a haggle thereof).
Here's an idea:

Any car with the following:
Aeroscreen
racing harness
bucket seats, non adjustable
racing stripes *unless American
caterpillar tracks
snorkel
side exit exhausts
a Caterham badge

are not barges.
There we go. Now we have a yardstick!

Emeye

9,773 posts

223 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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279 said:
0a said:
I didn't know there was a 320 version of these little C-Class Coupes. Seems good for under £2k and 72k miles. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...



Another car to highlight why the definition of a "barge" is so muddy.

Relatively Large Engine? Check
Auto? Check
Decent Spec? Check
Premium Brand? Check
Barge? Not even close (IMO)

smile.
One of the worst cars I have ever driven was an ex-gf's manual C-class coupe about 10/12 year ago - I can't even remember what engine it was, but it was st - really bad - rattly, rusty, terrible gearbox - it was also the first Mercedes I had ever driven myself - up until then my main experience of Mercs was as really impressive taxis on holiday.

The c-class coupe must be the ultimate low for Mercedes.It almost put me off Mercs for life!

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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And:

3 wheels
3 cylinders
Low ratio box
Straight cut gears
Perspex windows

Easy!

texasjohn

3,687 posts

231 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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idiotgap said:
How many condors do you need to trim a w210? I just can't get the thought of all those condors out of my head.


Edited by idiotgap on Monday 8th February 16:30
rofl

dscam

1,873 posts

187 months

Monday 8th February 2016
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SpeckledJim said:
I think this thread is in practice a bit wider than simply 'smoker barges'. Like porn it's hard to define, but you know it when you see it.
As ever, SJ's turn of phrase is unbeatable in illustrating a point!

In my own mind I think of a barge as something you could arrive at any venue in and not be self-conciously out of place; ergo there are times a Mondeo/Vectra et al just wouldn't do it but an aged Merc, BMW, Volvo, Jag etc would.

Like everyone else however this definition has to be considered elastic to accommodate all kinds of curios and the whim of mortal man on any given day!

Pennyroyal Tea

26,140 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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dscam said:
As ever, SJ's turn of phrase is unbeatable in illustrating a point!

In my own mind I think of a barge as something you could arrive at any venue in and not be self-conciously out of place; ergo there are times a Mondeo/Vectra et al just wouldn't do it but an aged Merc, BMW, Volvo, Jag etc would.

Like everyone else however this definition has to be considered elastic to accommodate all kinds of curios and the whim of mortal man on any given day!
Ok, good definition. One small fly in the ointment however...

The Golf GTI.

Look up the definition of 'classless' in the dictionary and that is your answer. It's always been my own yardstick for the 'turn up anywhere and be well received' sort of car. My dearest aunt is a retired doctor. Husband is a retired lawyer. They live in a massive pile in the country etc. She drives and has always driven since day one a Golf GTI (indeed, until very recently she hung onto an Oak Green MKII 8V for 26 years until it failed its MOT for tin-worm). For this same reason, I have always have a deep affection for the 'Grand Touring' Golf.

Now, no doubting its credentials, but, does a GTI quantify as a barge? scratchchin

I think your definition is the correct one, but it needs to contain a strict caveat to 'executive cars' (a term I utterly detest by the way, but I'm struggling here).

Ergo, your bloody 190E just about passes this test; the Mondeo (great as it is) does not. Yet, something like a top spec Citroen C6 in a moody hue would just about qualify, which I think covers our requirement to have a small back door opening (fnaar) for 'curio' cars that aren't 7ers, S-Classes or XJs.

So: A Smoker Barge Bargain is therefore a cheap (once expensive) 'executive' car where one could happily turn up anywhere and be well received.

All in agreement say aye.

>dons flamesuit<

Pennyroyal Tea

26,140 posts

214 months

Tuesday 9th February 2016
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Speaking of which, my Yakuza fantasy isn't going away...



Probably best never to take a black light to the boot, or for that matter, any of the interior.
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