Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 9]

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dbdb

4,324 posts

173 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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W00DY said:
'124 looking good Harry.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-Sovereign-XJ40-4-...

Magnificent.
A lovely car - in the same colour as mine, minus the dark blue seat piping.

The big advantage these very late XJ40s (1994MY with the X300 style side repeater, X300 rear suspension, twin airbags and lift off doors) have over earlier cars is they are MUCH more rust resistant. They don't seem to suffer rust problems much at all - to the extent that they are now very over represented in the surviving cars. Very late XJ40s like this seem to be considerably more rust resistant to the X300 too. I wonder what they did differently in the manufacturing process.

Jobbo

12,971 posts

264 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
kapiteinlangzaam said:
idiotgap said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Does look pretty nice!
Thats bloody lovely!
Aaand ... it's mine! I will shortly have a car made in this century, and already have a happy wife.

Now to sell the S124 and start looking in earnest for an XJS whilst I'm in the good books!
Nice one - that's a lovely colour and spec. I didn't realise I hadn't seen an Ocean Race V70 before but I can't recall having done so. Had a Musto bag which was Volvo Ocean Race branded around the time your car was registered but it was well-loved and died some years ago.

Does it have electric adjustment just for the driver's seat? And why on earth are the footwell vent pipes sat in the boot?!

bob-lad

2,212 posts

105 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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idiotgap said:
I didn't buy it, but still undecided.


LOADS OF bad stuff inside.
... The drivers seat has rip in it, as did the trim next to the seat base, the rear seat has a stain across it (maybe biro), there was staining in the boot area where the carpet was bleached by something. The whole car was absolutely filthy inside once you got past the surface, old coffee residue, grime and nastiness everywhere. The seatbelts were discoloured with grime too. The rearmost head restraints were missing. The passenger side door mirror indicator cover was broken and mostly missing though all the leds were working. The passenger side electric seat control switch was broken (the head restraint control broken off). There was broken/missing chrome trim on the glove-box lid. The rear screen was facing a bit too skyward and didn't seem to still be adjustable. The ashtrays/cupholders weren't clean. The rear-most seats are even less useful in a 211 than they are in a 124, occupants must need to be tiny. The drivers sun visor didn't move correctly and once I'd folded it down, it wouldn't go back up flush against the ceiling.

Some bad stuff outside too...
There was a ding in the boot lid which was starting to corrode a little, the trim covering where the rear wiper arm attaches too was corroded. There were deep scratches in all bumper corner trims. The alloys could do with a refurb. Most panels had some scratching. Nexen tyres all round - not sure how bad that is. When you start the car up it makes a funny groaning noise for a while, some pump or something running under the bonnet. The door mirrors groan when they fold in and out. Quite milky discoloured headlights.

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I appreciate that at this end of the market most are going to buy to run until borked,
I disagree. There's no excuse for that level of abuse. If there's that much disrespect to the visible stuff, you can guarantee the bits you can't see will be properly b0rked too.

Run away. Don't look back smile

CharlesdeGaulle

26,242 posts

180 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Jobbo said:
Does it have electric adjustment just for the driver's seat? And why on earth are the footwell vent pipes sat in the boot?!
Yes, the driver's seat is the only one with motors. As for the heater pipes, it's an incredibly rare special feature to appease dogs. It pipes fresh, mildly heated air which smells of bones into the boot. Dogs love it apparently.

More seriously, I wondered the same. Salesman had no idea, and they are completely unused. If still not attached whcn I get it, I'll do it myself.

DoctorX

7,266 posts

167 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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r129sl said:
Quite a nice looking thing, that. I expect it would give you 40mpg, maybe better?

The wireless looks nice. I think it's a Blaupunkt. Can anyone identify it more precisely?
Looks like a Blaupunkt Stockholm to me.

idiotgap

2,112 posts

133 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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bob-lad said:
idiotgap said:
I didn't buy it, but still undecided.


LOADS OF bad stuff inside.
... The drivers seat has rip in it, as did the trim next to the seat base, the rear seat has a stain across it (maybe biro), there was staining in the boot area where the carpet was bleached by something. The whole car was absolutely filthy inside once you got past the surface, old coffee residue, grime and nastiness everywhere. The seatbelts were discoloured with grime too. The rearmost head restraints were missing. The passenger side door mirror indicator cover was broken and mostly missing though all the leds were working. The passenger side electric seat control switch was broken (the head restraint control broken off). There was broken/missing chrome trim on the glove-box lid. The rear screen was facing a bit too skyward and didn't seem to still be adjustable. The ashtrays/cupholders weren't clean. The rear-most seats are even less useful in a 211 than they are in a 124, occupants must need to be tiny. The drivers sun visor didn't move correctly and once I'd folded it down, it wouldn't go back up flush against the ceiling.

Some bad stuff outside too...
There was a ding in the boot lid which was starting to corrode a little, the trim covering where the rear wiper arm attaches too was corroded. There were deep scratches in all bumper corner trims. The alloys could do with a refurb. Most panels had some scratching. Nexen tyres all round - not sure how bad that is. When you start the car up it makes a funny groaning noise for a while, some pump or something running under the bonnet. The door mirrors groan when they fold in and out. Quite milky discoloured headlights.

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I appreciate that at this end of the market most are going to buy to run until borked,
I disagree. There's no excuse for that level of abuse. If there's that much disrespect to the visible stuff, you can guarantee the bits you can't see will be properly b0rked too.

Run away. Don't look back smile
There is an update to this story... I decided I did like the car having looked up the VIN on the Mercedes EPC and seen the awesome list of toys on the data-card. I thought it might be worth tidying it up. First thing this morning I spoke to the local MB dealership to get an idea of the cost to replace the boot-seat headrests as bargaining power (£250.56 per side - I didn't ask if it was before or after VAT). I called my indie to check on trimming costs for the seat and current SBC pump prices. I fished around the internet forums etc. on the other bits and bobs. I called the MB dealer who serviced the car up to 2013/85k and enquired about SBC replacements showing in the history (10 pages worth of other stuff apparently, but no SBC). I called the indie who did the servicing the last few years and had a good chat with him - he knew the car and the owner. The car had been very well maintained and looked after mechanically - but the previous owner's kids had kicked the thing to pieces.

I called the vendor to make an offer, but he had another viewer with him who subsequently bought the car.
Probably for the best!

This afternoon I missed out on this one: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
It went before the owner realised she'd put her advert live.

The search will continue... I've been having a jolly career break for a few months but have to go back next week so had hoped to get something sorted. We'll see...

CharlesdeGaulle

26,242 posts

180 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Minemapper said:
Speaking of top mounts, I have a brand new one that I bought for my T5 before I sold it. I'll have a dig around and see if I can find it. Used it as a paperweight for years now. It's yours if you want it.
That's jolly decent of you. Many thanks.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,242 posts

180 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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idiotgap said:
This afternoon I missed out on this one: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
It went before the owner realised she'd put her advert live.

The search will continue... I've been having a jolly career break for a few months but have to go back next week so had hoped to get something sorted. We'll see...
Pity you missed out. The grey one was nice too - that colour works really well I think. Good luck with the hunting.

texasjohn

3,687 posts

231 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Congratulations on the purchase of the Ocean Race, it looks lovely.

I like the E39 a page back, a great buy at 1500 assuming it really is as good as the advert says. Shame it's not a 28i but lovely colour.

Stegel

1,953 posts

174 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Pity you missed out. The grey one was nice too - that colour works really well I think. Good luck with the hunting.
Not sure about the blue S211 - Call me conventional, but I have an inherent distrust of anyone who photographs a car on the public highway in bare feet! (Photo 11 - can't copy the photograph for some reason). On the grey car, I quite believe the cost of the odds and sods - I can't understand how people can be quite so careless / clumsy / uncaring with any car, let alone one that sounds like it was well maintained.

Congrats CdeG on the Volvo - looks great.

Krikkit

26,514 posts

181 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
The Yaw sensors for the active stability system are under one of the front seats - it could be that they have been recently replaced and the vents not put back... the yaw sensor going awry is a v. common fault.

Otherwise, some over enthusiastic valeting beneath the seats?
Some excellent beardage there. I suspect you might be right.

tobinen

9,220 posts

145 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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dbdb said:
W00DY said:
'124 looking good Harry.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-Sovereign-XJ40-4-...

Magnificent.
A lovely car - in the same colour as mine, minus the dark blue seat piping.

The big advantage these very late XJ40s (1994MY with the X300 style side repeater, X300 rear suspension, twin airbags and lift off doors) have over earlier cars is they are MUCH more rust resistant. They don't seem to suffer rust problems much at all - to the extent that they are now very over represented in the surviving cars. Very late XJ40s like this seem to be considerably more rust resistant to the X300 too. I wonder what they did differently in the manufacturing process.
That looks rather wonderful. Love it.


SilverStar

166 posts

211 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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wjb said:
I said "£4k, maybe less" so I was close smile

Well guessed! I'm slightly kicking myself for not going for it, would of left a £1,000 to sort the bodywork/electrical issues out. Not sure I need two Mercedes estates though!

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

135 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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r129sl said:
Quite a nice looking thing, that. I expect it would give you 40mpg, maybe better?

The wireless looks nice. I think it's a Blaupunkt. Can anyone identify it more precisely?
What's the knob under the gearstick for? Surely it can't have windy windows but electric mirrors?

Krikkit

26,514 posts

181 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
r129sl said:
Quite a nice looking thing, that. I expect it would give you 40mpg, maybe better?

The wireless looks nice. I think it's a Blaupunkt. Can anyone identify it more precisely?
What's the knob under the gearstick for? Surely it can't have windy windows but electric mirrors?
I'd say electric mirrors too. Rotate left/right to select mirror and wibble to adjust.

idiotgap

2,112 posts

133 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Stegel said:
Call me conventional, but I have an inherent distrust of anyone who photographs a car on the public highway in bare feet!
I'd noticed the feet too, very strange!

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Krikkit said:
TheAllSeeingPie said:
r129sl said:
Quite a nice looking thing, that. I expect it would give you 40mpg, maybe better?

The wireless looks nice. I think it's a Blaupunkt. Can anyone identify it more precisely?
What's the knob under the gearstick for? Surely it can't have windy windows but electric mirrors?
I'd say electric mirrors too. Rotate left/right to select mirror and wibble to adjust.
Yes, lecky mirrors, both sides.

Here you identify the point in time when it all went wrong for MB (or right, I suppose, given they now sell about three times as many cars as in 1992).

The nearside mirror was always electrically adjustable whereas the driver's side was manually adjustable from inside the car. Why? Because on the passenger side, electric adjustment is an ergonomic necessity: the mirror is too far away to be manually adjusted by the driver from his viewing position in the driver's seat. But on the driver's side, manual adjustment is ergonomically superior: the adjustment knob is at the thing being adjusted, it is intuitive in its operation, it is lighter, simpler and cheaper and, above all, easier to adjust.

But the market thinks electric equals better. And so in about 1992, the marketeers triumphed over the engineers and both mirrors went electric.

Max M4X WW

4,795 posts

182 months

golfer19

1,565 posts

133 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Lovely interior in that Audi.

jke11y

3,181 posts

237 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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r129sl said:
Yes, lecky mirrors, both sides.

Here you identify the point in time when it all went wrong for MB (or right, I suppose, given they now sell about three times as many cars as in 1992
I found setting the mirrors in the 107 satisfying in this respect.
You should have seen the look on my wife's face as I explained to her how to adjust the mirrors first time she drove it, and that one was electric and one wasn't. Unrivalled blankness.
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