Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 9]
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Krikkit said:
The brown one looks great mind, no reason to dwell.
True enough, but the weekends are the only time I get to do this sort of stuff, and many garages don't open on Sundays so options and time are limited. wack said:
It happens a lot on eBay, you just have to make sure if it gets pulled its you that's driving it home
Sure, but why launch an auction and then pull it before the end? blueb10 said:
After some research I have gone off the idea of a CL or S class Mercedes as my next barge, the costs involving the ABC and SBC systems are too scary and expensive and also seem like they are always when, not if.
How about a 2003/4 clk 500. These don't seem to be as complicated or as prone to bork. All I can really find is some issues with the seats and the windows on the early cars.
Anyone else had some experience or knowledge of these.
CL and S class don't have SBC.How about a 2003/4 clk 500. These don't seem to be as complicated or as prone to bork. All I can really find is some issues with the seats and the windows on the early cars.
Anyone else had some experience or knowledge of these.
SBC was fitted to R230 SL, W211 E class, W219 CLS, Maybach and SLR.
ABC is on the CL, the AMG S class and the V12 S class.
All other S class's have airmatic as standard. Which is much more reliable and significantly less costly to repair.
A clk500 will be a much cheaper car to run, but then again it is just a glorified C class and is 2 large steps down in refinement and experience from the CL.
I've run a 2003 CLK and a 2003 W220 S Class as daily drivers with similar mileage and against all odds, the S class has cost me a fraction of the CLK to run.
You've got to try and stack the odds in your favour but sometimes used cars are just luck of the draw.
Lungwun said:
E65Ross said:
Maybe I'm biased but having had an E38 for a couple of years and an E65 I fail to see how the E38 is a more complete car (perhaps the looks department aside). The E65 is more comfortable, quieter, has a better range of engines, a better gearbox and it's more chuckable into the twisties as well thanks to dynamic drive. the interior is also better laid out (no, really) and is an even nicer place to spend time. I think the interior of the E38 can appear more welcoming at first glance on Internet photos, but in person the E65 really did move things on.
I wonder what an F01 is like in comparison still.
I was all set on an E38 but the prices of the E65 aren't too far off. I wonder what an F01 is like in comparison still.
I reckon the looks of the E65 are growing on me.
What is the bork factor on the E65? Running costs and Costs of things that go wrong?
According to several forums on the internet the N62 isn't one of the most reliable engines out there (But the internet is full moaners anyhow)
Ross, the internet also says the interior of the F01 is a step down from the E65 regarding sound insulation and comfort
They're really, really good barges but definitely more expensive than E38s which are pretty cheap to run, but check the fuel tank.... As this can be a 4 figure job to sort properly.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Sure, but why launch an auction and then pull it before the end?
Its the very aim of an auction! Quick sale, no end fees, no no-shows or morons turning up at the door.
I bought my last two barges this way. Not so good this time of year as viewing in the evening is out.
Krikkit said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
W00DY said:
Withdrawn from sale, 48 hours before the auction was supposed to end. 
I'd spoken to the vendor and was bidding - at the time we spoke I was the winning bidder - and it's been withdrawn, presumably because someone made an irresistible offer. Bloody irritating.
Oh well, may have to go and see the brown one next weekend!
0a said:
Thanks, bad news about the roof. Bad day all round for thread R129s, the plastic windows cracked on mine today even though it was relatively warm. 
CharlesdeGaulle said:
W00DY said:
Withdrawn from sale, 48 hours before the auction was supposed to end. I'd spoken to the vendor and was bidding - at the time we spoke I was the winning bidder - and it's been withdrawn, presumably because someone made an irresistible offer. Bloody irritating.
Oh well, may have to go and see the brown one next weekend!
Still. There's plenty of grim weather to get through before we're really in summer barge territory, so plenty of time
E65Ross said:
I really don't think it has less character.... What do you mean by less user friendly? If you're referring to idrive, it's an absolute doddle I actually rarely need to use idrive to be honest, as per the E38, I control the radio etc via the steering wheel. There's very little day-to-day stuff which requires you to navigate through it.
It's no more complicated to use than the system on the E38 in my opinion (which used the knob to scroll through the menus)
We're running an f11 at the minute. This version of idrive is very good, and is easier to use than the earlier efforts, hence my comment "user friendly" I actually rarely need to use idrive to be honest, as per the E38, I control the radio etc via the steering wheel. There's very little day-to-day stuff which requires you to navigate through it. It's no more complicated to use than the system on the E38 in my opinion (which used the knob to scroll through the menus)
In terms of character, the cabins of the e38+e39+e46 were the high point of BMW interior styling IMHO. They felt like real drivers cars before you even turned the key- the ultimate driving machine. I don't see their later interiors having that inherent sportiness.
Derin, I'm with you on the Lhd thing,and have been looking on mobile.de for one. Add to the sense of occasion I reckon. That 560 looks gorgeous.
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Withdrawn from sale, 48 hours before the auction was supposed to end.
I'd spoken to the vendor and was bidding - at the time we spoke I was the winning bidder - and it's been withdrawn, presumably because someone made an irresistible offer. Bloody irritating.
Oh well, may have to go and see the brown one next weekend!
How disappointing. The search continues!I'd spoken to the vendor and was bidding - at the time we spoke I was the winning bidder - and it's been withdrawn, presumably because someone made an irresistible offer. Bloody irritating.
Oh well, may have to go and see the brown one next weekend!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-MERCEDES-S600-LIMO-...
Love the roller blinds for the TVs!
Barge-tastic!
Collected the e39 540i touring today.
Took the train up (for free thanks to my Chiltern lines season ticket - so man maths demonstrates that owning a V8 is clearly cost effective)
Previous owner met me at the station having one last drive in it.
After handing over a crisp selection of mostly £20 notes, completing the documentation, taxing it online, and a cup of tea, I wafted back southwards back home.
I took it easy, particularly as despite swopping my insurance over it wasn't appearing on the MID - despite me being able to tax it online, which I thought checked insurance status.
lovely waft down the M40 - but also nice on some twisty-ish roads on the last few miles before home.
Having also collected my step-son from a not very nearby station I've enjoyed 150 relaxing miles today.
delighted!
pics soon
Collected the e39 540i touring today.
Took the train up (for free thanks to my Chiltern lines season ticket - so man maths demonstrates that owning a V8 is clearly cost effective)
Previous owner met me at the station having one last drive in it.
After handing over a crisp selection of mostly £20 notes, completing the documentation, taxing it online, and a cup of tea, I wafted back southwards back home.
I took it easy, particularly as despite swopping my insurance over it wasn't appearing on the MID - despite me being able to tax it online, which I thought checked insurance status.
lovely waft down the M40 - but also nice on some twisty-ish roads on the last few miles before home.
Having also collected my step-son from a not very nearby station I've enjoyed 150 relaxing miles today.
delighted!
pics soon
BrabusMog said:
E65Ross said:
BrabusMog said:
I miss my old E38 whenever I see a Titan Silver with the 18" M-Parrallels
Probably the rose tints, but it's surely the most complete car ever made? The 640d is amazing, but it doesn't make me smile like the E38 used to. Unless that's just an age thing, it felt pretty cool smoking around in a 740i at 25. I also really miss the tiptronic gear lever, it was such a good hand rest!
Maybe I'm biased but having had an E38 for a couple of years and an E65 I fail to see how the E38 is a more complete car (perhaps the looks department aside). The E65 is more comfortable, quieter, has a better range of engines, a better gearbox and it's more chuckable into the twisties as well thanks to dynamic drive. the interior is also better laid out (no, really) and is an even nicer place to spend time. I think the interior of the E38 can appear more welcoming at first glance on Internet photos, but in person the E65 really did move things on. Probably the rose tints, but it's surely the most complete car ever made? The 640d is amazing, but it doesn't make me smile like the E38 used to. Unless that's just an age thing, it felt pretty cool smoking around in a 740i at 25. I also really miss the tiptronic gear lever, it was such a good hand rest!
I wonder what an F01 is like in comparison still.
If you had an E38 728 and then moved onto a 745 E65, you will have moved into another league in terms of engine and handling package. Yes, they are barges, but an E38 728 and 740 are different beasts, dynamically. I have driven both, extensively, so feel like I am qualified to say that.
They're both good cars, but I'd have an E38 over an E65 all day long.
As you say, would love to know how an F01 shapes up against them.
I'd just like to lower the tone (although I freakin' love it!)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Croutons said:
I'd just like to lower the tone (although I freakin' love it!)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Few bits and that could look rather lovely.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1984-Ford-Crown-Victoria...
A V8, lots of brown and a decent spec.
W00DY said:
Croutons said:
I'd just like to lower the tone (although I freakin' love it!)
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
Few bits and that could look rather lovely.http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1984-Ford-Crown-Victoria...
A V8, lots of brown and a decent spec.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE
Arrive home, handbrake turn, jump out, slide across the bonnet and roll to the front door, mobile phone drawn.
Edited by QuantumTokoloshi on Sunday 7th February 21:36
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1988-Mercedes-560SEL-W12...
Maybe slightly overpriced?
Maybe slightly overpriced?
Edited by Eski1991 on Sunday 7th February 21:53
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