Spec me a car, £15k budget

[GreatGranny]

ORD said:

20 miles isn't a long journey. Engine would be barely up to temperature unless it's stop-start traffic or fast motorway.

Have you driven or owned a modern diesel?

My 6 year old S40 1.6d is blowing warm air after only a mile even in winter.

But I do agree for 4k miles per year a diesel is not the ideal car.

OP, I would honestly look at EVs unless you really want a quick, interesting petrol car for weekend drives etc..

[Dannbodge]

£15k will get you a cracking 335i or E46 M3

[shalmaneser]

25% of journeys under 2 miles? Buy a bicycle. Under two miles will wreck most cars.

When you want to go for a proper drive, jump in your e46 M3. You can get a great one with all the necessary work done for that cash. Infact you may just be into M3 CS land, in which case you'll own an appreciating asset!

[SlimRick]

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[jamiebae]

GreatGranny said:

ORD said:

20 miles isn't a long journey. Engine would be barely up to temperature unless it's stop-start traffic or fast motorway.

Have you driven or owned a modern diesel?

My 6 year old S40 1.6d is blowing warm air after only a mile even in winter.

But I do agree for 4k miles per year a diesel is not the ideal car.

OP, I would honestly look at EVs unless you really want a quick, interesting petrol car for weekend drives etc..

Really? I had various new diesels the last two winters I was in the UK and none of them were even slightly warm until the other side of the M40 which was 3 miles from my house. This was in a Passat, Civic, Focus, 325d, 520d, A4 and an X1, and I really noticed it as I'd previously been driving a petrol CRV which was warm before I left the village.

[Trif]

jamiebae said:

Which 4x4 do you want?

I have a secret liking to the X5. I was also slightly interested in a lease deal for a Jeep Grand Cherokee (£320/month) but it has expired now.

MattHall91 said:

Im reluctant to suggest anything fun as you probably won't get chance to enjoy it.

Will you even go from 0 to 60 during your short drives?

Decent all rounder would be mk6 Golf GTI.

I make the effort to go places, or take detours with a fun car. My last fun (and only) car was a VX220, I sold it and went without for 2 years. The problem is for the odd longer journey I borrow my Dads 1 series company car but he will be retiring soon so will no longer have that option.

shalmaneser said:

25% of journeys under 2 miles? Buy a bicycle. Under two miles will wreck most cars.

When you want to go for a proper drive, jump in your e46 M3. You can get a great one with all the necessary work done for that cash. Infact you may just be into M3 CS land, in which case you'll own an appreciating asset!

I do cycle, I also walk as much as possible (it's faster to walk to the Tesco Extra then it is to drive the 1 mile journey. Heck it's even quicker to walk to the international airport down the road then it is to drive there at busy times! - I seem to have built myself my own little world with everything on my doorstep...) Isn't the CSL mega money?

[MattHall91]

Trif said:

jamiebae said:

Which 4x4 do you want?

I have a secret liking to the X5. I was also slightly interested in a lease deal for a Jeep Grand Cherokee (£320/month) but it has expired now.

MattHall91 said:

Im reluctant to suggest anything fun as you probably won't get chance to enjoy it.

Will you even go from 0 to 60 during your short drives?

Decent all rounder would be mk6 Golf GTI.

I make the effort to go places, or take detours with a fun car. My last fun (and only) car was a VX220, I sold it and went without for 2 years. The problem is for the odd longer journey I borrow my Dads 1 series company car but he will be retiring soon so will no longer have that option.

shalmaneser said:

25% of journeys under 2 miles? Buy a bicycle. Under two miles will wreck most cars.

When you want to go for a proper drive, jump in your e46 M3. You can get a great one with all the necessary work done for that cash. Infact you may just be into M3 CS land, in which case you'll own an appreciating asset!

I do cycle, I also walk as much as possible (it's faster to walk to the Tesco Extra then it is to drive the 1 mile journey. Heck it's even quicker to walk to the international airport down the road then it is to drive there at busy times! - I seem to have built myself my own little world with everything on my doorstep...) Isn't the CSL mega money?

Well in that case, try and make a Z4 fit up your kerb I picked mine up last week and it's awesome.

The CS is a different car to the CSL. CSLs are getting outrageous money though.

[ORD]

Are people seriously confusing the air con blowing hot air with the engine (oil) being up to temperature?! I don't think I've driven a car that takes less than 10 minutes to get the coolant up to temperature, let alone the oil.

[shalmaneser]

MattHall91 said:

Trif said:

jamiebae said:

Which 4x4 do you want?

I have a secret liking to the X5. I was also slightly interested in a lease deal for a Jeep Grand Cherokee (£320/month) but it has expired now.

MattHall91 said:

Im reluctant to suggest anything fun as you probably won't get chance to enjoy it.

Will you even go from 0 to 60 during your short drives?

Decent all rounder would be mk6 Golf GTI.

I make the effort to go places, or take detours with a fun car. My last fun (and only) car was a VX220, I sold it and went without for 2 years. The problem is for the odd longer journey I borrow my Dads 1 series company car but he will be retiring soon so will no longer have that option.

shalmaneser said:

25% of journeys under 2 miles? Buy a bicycle. Under two miles will wreck most cars.

When you want to go for a proper drive, jump in your e46 M3. You can get a great one with all the necessary work done for that cash. Infact you may just be into M3 CS land, in which case you'll own an appreciating asset!

I do cycle, I also walk as much as possible (it's faster to walk to the Tesco Extra then it is to drive the 1 mile journey. Heck it's even quicker to walk to the international airport down the road then it is to drive there at busy times! - I seem to have built myself my own little world with everything on my doorstep...) Isn't the CSL mega money?

Well in that case, try and make a Z4 fit up your kerb I picked mine up last week and it's awesome.

The CS is a different car to the CSL. CSLs are getting outrageous money though.

Yeah the CS has the CSL engine, but no carbon roof, boot, bodykit... And was available without the SMG auto!

EDIT: although looking at it CS might be out of budget.