RE: Jaguar F-Pace actual image!
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craigjm said:
Thats the old model. There isnt an estate or sport brake in the new range.... yet
Ah, didn't know that.Incidentally, I met Jag's chief designer Ian Callum at a swanky bash a couple of months ago and he was gracious enough to let me bark drunkenly about cars at him for ages. He is a proper petrolhead and was so nice that I won't hear a bad thing said about anything Jaguar's design department do.
Bladedancer said:
Oh great, another SUV. That's what we needed. Yawn. Moving on...
It does seem very formulatic. Not particularly good or bad just bland. From the side profile shot I wouldn't have been surprised if it was the new X5, Q7, Touareg, Mecan etc.It could have been a lot worse.
durbster said:
craigjm said:
Thats the old model. There isnt an estate or sport brake in the new range.... yet
Ah, didn't know that.Incidentally, I met Jag's chief designer Ian Callum at a swanky bash a couple of months ago and he was gracious enough to let me bark drunkenly about cars at him for ages. He is a proper petrolhead and was so nice that I won't hear a bad thing said about anything Jaguar's design department do.
[/quoteYes he is a very nice guy. Built a good team around himself
ZesPak said:
craigjm said:
Thats the old model. There isnt an estate or sport brake in the new range.... yet
Not there in the foreseeable future neither. Like I said, probably a sensible decision on their part. Still a damn shame imho. [/quote
There probably isn't much demand worldwide for estate cars these days. Probably more likely to see a coupe version of the XE
craigjm said:
ZesPak said:
craigjm said:
Thats the old model. There isnt an estate or sport brake in the new range.... yet
Not there in the foreseeable future neither. Like I said, probably a sensible decision on their part. Still a damn shame imho. [/quote
There probably isn't much demand worldwide for estate cars these days. Probably more likely to see a coupe version of the XE
Yeah, not sure if we are coming full circle -- but I would certainly like it. Macan underpinnings in a regular hatch / estate shape would be rather neat IMO. Or is that an RS4 
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Look at this F-Pace or e.g. the SQ5. There is no off-road ability left, just an estate car with compromised ride/handling, huge frontal area, weight, unsprung masses, inertia -- all as a result of styling requirements. I doubt there's even much left of the visibility or ease of access benefits with these more extreme crossover SUVs.
But it's fashion, so it comes. And it goes.
?Look at this F-Pace or e.g. the SQ5. There is no off-road ability left, just an estate car with compromised ride/handling, huge frontal area, weight, unsprung masses, inertia -- all as a result of styling requirements. I doubt there's even much left of the visibility or ease of access benefits with these more extreme crossover SUVs.
But it's fashion, so it comes. And it goes
.For a "car" that uses the resources and materials of two actual cars, to compete against other "cars" it looks really good. Clearly in the same family as the other modern Jags and seems to hide it's bulk well.
it also has the advantage of actually being a Jaguar from top to bottom unlike the car it is aiming at. Something they should perhaps use in their marketing. They took a very successful pop at BMW a while ago.
If the dynamics are as good as the current range then it should do pretty well, though hopefully not by taking sales from RR.
it also has the advantage of actually being a Jaguar from top to bottom unlike the car it is aiming at. Something they should perhaps use in their marketing. They took a very successful pop at BMW a while ago.
If the dynamics are as good as the current range then it should do pretty well, though hopefully not by taking sales from RR.
T0MMY said:
I wonder if it might be possible to make SUVs with wheels that extend outside the body and run up alongside the cabin, in the style of a steam engine? Seems to me that wheel size is currently limited by the arches to a disappointing extent.
I know this is tongue in cheek, but I'm pretty sure that your wheels have to be within the bodywork to be road legal. I don't know how the legislation for open wheeled cars is though. Is it something along the lines that the widest part of the car can't be the wheels?ZesPak said:
I know this is tongue in cheek, but I'm pretty sure that your wheels have to be within the bodywork to be road legal. I don't know how the legislation for open wheeled cars is though. Is it something along the lines that the widest part of the car can't be the wheels?
They would be legal if they had mud guards attached to them, a la Caterham.Kolbenkopp said:
Look at this F-Pace or e.g. the SQ5. There is no off-road ability left, just an estate car with compromised ride/handling, huge frontal area, weight, unsprung masses, inertia -- all as a result of styling requirements. I doubt there's even much left of the visibility or ease of access benefits with these more extreme crossover SUVs.
But it's fashion, so it comes. And it goes.
a) does off-road ability matter with these cars?But it's fashion, so it comes. And it goes
.b) it will still be better off-road (or in snow etc) than my car and most non-SUVs - even if just by way of virtue of ground clearance, visibility and drivetrain.
Ares said:
a) does off-road ability matter with these cars?
b) it will still be better off-road (or in snow etc) than my car and most non-SUVs - even if just by way of virtue of ground clearance, visibility and drivetrain.
That. My sb) it will still be better off-road (or in snow etc) than my car and most non-SUVs - even if just by way of virtue of ground clearance, visibility and drivetrain.
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