Not finding love with my RS6
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Bit late in the thread but I can relate. Was lent an S6 V10 to drive down to the south of France and back in. I was VERY excited and enjoyed the first few hours using the immense torque to surge away from anything on the motorway. But as you say the exhaust was so muted you couldn’t hear it. The seats although supportive were so hard everyone got back ache and a sore derriere aft a couple of hours.
When I finally arrived in the alps (summer) I thought ‘this is what I’ve been waiting for’ switched off the traction control put the gearbox in manual and booted it round the first hairpin. The car went round the corner, no tail out fun, infarct no fun at all. I arrived home very disillusioned and missing my Porsche 965 more than ever.
The car wasn’t very good as a long distance cruiser, rubbish as a sports car and didn’t make me smile when I drove it fast. A very competent, well put together tool, but far too clinical for me.
Let’s hope the new 991 turbo s is more involving……………………………
When I finally arrived in the alps (summer) I thought ‘this is what I’ve been waiting for’ switched off the traction control put the gearbox in manual and booted it round the first hairpin. The car went round the corner, no tail out fun, infarct no fun at all. I arrived home very disillusioned and missing my Porsche 965 more than ever.
The car wasn’t very good as a long distance cruiser, rubbish as a sports car and didn’t make me smile when I drove it fast. A very competent, well put together tool, but far too clinical for me.
Let’s hope the new 991 turbo s is more involving……………………………
Don't get me wrong it will be a stunning machine but it will still be a clinical modern German tool that will be super fast and competent as all Turbo`s are but for me it will lack some emotion and almost be too good...give me a 997 GT3 with a manual gearbox any day of the week over the automatic Turbo.
I cant afford either so my opinion doesn't really amount to much anyway!!
I cant afford either so my opinion doesn't really amount to much anyway!!
Smokin Donut said:
Bit late in the thread but I can relate. Was lent an S6 V10 to drive down to the south of France and back in. I was VERY excited and enjoyed the first few hours using the immense torque to surge away from anything on the motorway. But as you say the exhaust was so muted you couldn’t hear it. The seats although supportive were so hard everyone got back ache and a sore derriere aft a couple of hours.
When I finally arrived in the alps (summer) I thought ‘this is what I’ve been waiting for’ switched off the traction control put the gearbox in manual and booted it round the first hairpin. The car went round the corner, no tail out fun, infarct no fun at all. I arrived home very disillusioned and missing my Porsche 965 more than ever.
The car wasn’t very good as a long distance cruiser, rubbish as a sports car and didn’t make me smile when I drove it fast. A very competent, well put together tool, but far too clinical for me.
Let’s hope the new 991 turbo s is more involving……………………………
Take your experience in the S6 and bolt two whacking great turbos on it and you've got what I'm experiencing, albeit the motorway surge is so fast as to always make me laugh a little, but it's all over so quickly (in order to protect my licence!)When I finally arrived in the alps (summer) I thought ‘this is what I’ve been waiting for’ switched off the traction control put the gearbox in manual and booted it round the first hairpin. The car went round the corner, no tail out fun, infarct no fun at all. I arrived home very disillusioned and missing my Porsche 965 more than ever.
The car wasn’t very good as a long distance cruiser, rubbish as a sports car and didn’t make me smile when I drove it fast. A very competent, well put together tool, but far too clinical for me.
Let’s hope the new 991 turbo s is more involving……………………………
I'm warming to it a little more this last week, had five people in three days compliment the car, all at work which suggests one of two things:
1. The car is a little too subtle for people to realise it's a 'special' A6 or...
2. No on in the office ever thought an accountant would have such a powerful, crap on fuel car!?
I suspect it's more the second than the first!
Anywho I'm switching to our Alfa 147 ducati corse next week as my wife goes back to her old 147 and I fancy giving it a go!
I do remember one attribute that made me smile. As you say the car was so subtle hardly anyone noticed it was a ‘special’ car. With a passenger onboard I would pootle around for a while and when they weren’t expecting it burry the (not so) loud peddle and watch the expression on their faces. Never got tired of that. This must be hilarious with 2 turbos………………rocket propelled armchair.
If I had owned it I would have put a Milteck exhaust on to let some of the Lamborghini out
If I had owned it I would have put a Milteck exhaust on to let some of the Lamborghini out
Smokin Donut said:
I do remember one attribute that made me smile. As you say the car was so subtle hardly anyone noticed it was a ‘special’ car. With a passenger onboard I would pootle around for a while and when they weren’t expecting it burry the (not so) loud peddle and watch the expression on their faces. Never got tired of that. This must be hilarious with 2 turbos………………rocket propelled armchair.
If I had owned it I would have put a Milteck exhaust on to let some of the Lamborghini out
I think that's the one thing that would 'save' the car for me, a milltek or simliar exhaust to let it sing a little more, but that means sinking another £1,500 into the car! Have no idea whether I'd prefer resonanting or non res exhaust either as I'd like it to be tolerable on longer runs with family on board!If I had owned it I would have put a Milteck exhaust on to let some of the Lamborghini out
Found a little stretch of private road tonight and had a few acceleration blasts. Looks like 3.7 seconds is about all it takes! Ultimate traffic light gp car?
http://vid688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/Daveyma...
http://vid688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/Daveyma...
Wrong car for the job OP...
If your RS6 has 700bhp you are not even getting it in the zone with the driving you do everyday, perhaps that explains the lack of bond... To do a slow, city or busy 3.5mile commute you choose a highly tuned V10 and complain it is not engaging and heavy on fuel? Don't know why you are surprised.... I don't have an RS6 but I assume such a turned engine will have a sweet spot somewhere and the chassis will also have a sweet spot and I doubt it is a slow corner..
That RS6 is probably good for mostly motorway mile muncher and a little bit of twisty A-road at best... Perfect for Germany unrestricted motorways. It would probably be crap on a track day as well.
Forget the commute, any normal car will do the job, get yourself a good fun car with power that is usable! You Urquattro sounded a good choice but everyone needs a change.
You have to ask yourself what kind of PH you are, the 911 Turbo or the 2.7 RS one...
If your RS6 has 700bhp you are not even getting it in the zone with the driving you do everyday, perhaps that explains the lack of bond... To do a slow, city or busy 3.5mile commute you choose a highly tuned V10 and complain it is not engaging and heavy on fuel? Don't know why you are surprised.... I don't have an RS6 but I assume such a turned engine will have a sweet spot somewhere and the chassis will also have a sweet spot and I doubt it is a slow corner..
That RS6 is probably good for mostly motorway mile muncher and a little bit of twisty A-road at best... Perfect for Germany unrestricted motorways. It would probably be crap on a track day as well.
Forget the commute, any normal car will do the job, get yourself a good fun car with power that is usable! You Urquattro sounded a good choice but everyone needs a change.
You have to ask yourself what kind of PH you are, the 911 Turbo or the 2.7 RS one...
longbow said:
Great thread. I do apologise for banging on along the same lines, but I've been down this path before with a 300C SRT8 Touring, which whilst not as fast as an RS6 does have similar qualities - namely that it's heavy, inert and therefore lacking in agility. On UK roads, cars like these are difficult to love. So, I got one of these....
Most people, even PHers don't even know they exist, and they are mega rare - maybe 10 total in the UK. What you get is the legendary Evo IX chassis and drivetrain with the practicality of an estate. The result is a shockingly rapid A/B road estate.... manual gearbox of course. Mine is now tuned to a smidge over 530bhp and is pretty wild. I'm sure the RS6 ticks the boxes for some, but if it is involvement and agility you're after, they are hamstrung by their lardiness. Have a watch of these vid (parts 1 and 2) as it may confirm what you're feeling....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX7pN0s2akU
I've seen this car within the last week, not sure when/where exactly, but I think it was on Saturday as I was driving from Corsham to Andover via Devizes. It certainly surprised me, I love fast estates and I didn't know these even existed. It's a very nice car mate :-)Most people, even PHers don't even know they exist, and they are mega rare - maybe 10 total in the UK. What you get is the legendary Evo IX chassis and drivetrain with the practicality of an estate. The result is a shockingly rapid A/B road estate.... manual gearbox of course. Mine is now tuned to a smidge over 530bhp and is pretty wild. I'm sure the RS6 ticks the boxes for some, but if it is involvement and agility you're after, they are hamstrung by their lardiness. Have a watch of these vid (parts 1 and 2) as it may confirm what you're feeling....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX7pN0s2akU
If you want German build quality, stonking speed and some character as well, any M-B AMG with the 6.2 litre V8 will fit the bill. S212 E63 is my particular favourite, but there isn't really a bad one as far as I've ascertained... C63 is just a brute, a lot of power and torque in a relatively small package.
Alternatively, if you want the utmost luxury, a respectable but slightly caddish image and still don't mind big fuel bills, Bentley Arnage?
Alternatively, if you want the utmost luxury, a respectable but slightly caddish image and still don't mind big fuel bills, Bentley Arnage?
QuattroDave said:
Found a little stretch of private road tonight and had a few acceleration blasts. Looks like 3.7 seconds is about all it takes! Ultimate traffic light gp car?
http://vid688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/Daveyma...
That is just so effortless and as you say its lugging plenty of weight with it yet still goes like a train, its very impressive. http://vid688.photobucket.com/albums/vv243/Daveyma...
QuattroDave said:
unless you knew what the silver wing mirrors and little red badge meant you would just think it's a 2.0tdi repmobile (sounds very vain of me but really I'm not vain!) Whatever the reasons I find myself after a month whether it's the all things car I really want or not.
This is the exact reason I did not buy an M3 and went for a 370z instead. Even though not as fast or refined, it is special and unique in that you would not mistaken it for another model and plenty of thumbs up, where as with the M3 every other M-Tec 330d or what not looks similar...Yesterday I was in the petrol station and saw what looked like a 5 series at the pump in front of me. The guy was faffing around which made me notice the 4 exhaust tips....realised it was a debadged M5 but it didnt really look any more special than a diesel model...
CrgT16 said:
Wrong car for the job OP...
If your RS6 has 700bhp you are not even getting it in the zone with the driving you do everyday, perhaps that explains the lack of bond... To do a slow, city or busy 3.5mile commute you choose a highly tuned V10 and complain it is not engaging and heavy on fuel? Don't know why you are surprised.... I don't have an RS6 but I assume such a turned engine will have a sweet spot somewhere and the chassis will also have a sweet spot and I doubt it is a slow corner..
That RS6 is probably good for mostly motorway mile muncher and a little bit of twisty A-road at best... Perfect for Germany unrestricted motorways. It would probably be crap on a track day as well.
Forget the commute, any normal car will do the job, get yourself a good fun car with power that is usable! You Urquattro sounded a good choice but everyone needs a change.
You have to ask yourself what kind of PH you are, the 911 Turbo or the 2.7 RS one...
Everyone hones in on the fuel thing but it's the feel good factor that I thought I was buying and feel short changed on. I've accepted now that it's crap on fuel and actually in the 1800 miles I've had it it's showing 19.5 which is kind of where I expected it to be. However this last week or so I've been more leaden footed and have been enjoying the car much more! Anywho, deposit has been taken on it so I may not have it this time next week and I'll be back to my 530d and a wedge in the bank waiting for another car to pique my interest. If I do find out I've made a mistake selling as others have said I can always buy another one.If your RS6 has 700bhp you are not even getting it in the zone with the driving you do everyday, perhaps that explains the lack of bond... To do a slow, city or busy 3.5mile commute you choose a highly tuned V10 and complain it is not engaging and heavy on fuel? Don't know why you are surprised.... I don't have an RS6 but I assume such a turned engine will have a sweet spot somewhere and the chassis will also have a sweet spot and I doubt it is a slow corner..
That RS6 is probably good for mostly motorway mile muncher and a little bit of twisty A-road at best... Perfect for Germany unrestricted motorways. It would probably be crap on a track day as well.
Forget the commute, any normal car will do the job, get yourself a good fun car with power that is usable! You Urquattro sounded a good choice but everyone needs a change.
You have to ask yourself what kind of PH you are, the 911 Turbo or the 2.7 RS one...
Took my old boss out in it last night and pulling out of a junction I gave it some beans and he actually let out a semi scream then laughed like a loon. He just thought it was a run of the mill 2.0 tdi (he's not that into cars!)
To answer your question (sort of) I'm more of a relaxed/lazy driver so I prefer the lower down grunt from a turbo powered car over a highly strung NA, no doubt cemented from owning a turbo URQ for six years with big lag to 2k then a massive surge of power! Part of the reason I wasn't overly sure about the M3 was because I'm not really the sort of driver that wrings the nuts off a car and the m3 only really came alive above 6k.
QuattroDave said:
Everyone hones in on the fuel thing but it's the feel good factor that I thought I was buying and feel short changed on.
Took my old boss out in it last night and pulling out of a junction I gave it some beans and he actually let out a semi scream then laughed like a loon. He just thought it was a run of the mill 2.0 tdi (he's not that into cars!)
I went out in a V10 RS6 Avant a couple of weeks ago and let out the same sort of stifled scream when the loud pedal was planted. Truly silly acceleration and once on a DC with no traffic the car just kept pulling and pulling until we reached a ridiculous speed and backed off. Took my old boss out in it last night and pulling out of a junction I gave it some beans and he actually let out a semi scream then laughed like a loon. He just thought it was a run of the mill 2.0 tdi (he's not that into cars!)
When the car first pulled up it was the "wolf in sheep's clothing" look that I really appreciated, black paint and silver door mirrors looking very nice, as I like sleeper cars
Would I consider buying one, yes very easily
Next demo drive promised is a CL63 AMG
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