Not finding love with my RS6
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Maybe test drive an XFR-S Sportbrake?
It's a bit less understated, still sounds good, is still fairly quick, is better on fuel than you appear to be suffering with the Audi but is genuinely a fun chassis.
It'll go in a straight line, hands off and quietly and makes a good family car (well the saloon does) but it's frankly a little too much power for the chassis and whilst benign enough, if you want to drive it quick it does need a bit of driving. It is traction limited through 1st and 2nd in the dry so you can't just uneventfully accelerate at wide open throttle. You can drive briskly without event but it demands some driver input to drive it fast.
Steering feel and response is probably the best I've experienced in a modern family sized car.
It has a character.
It's a bit less understated, still sounds good, is still fairly quick, is better on fuel than you appear to be suffering with the Audi but is genuinely a fun chassis.
It'll go in a straight line, hands off and quietly and makes a good family car (well the saloon does) but it's frankly a little too much power for the chassis and whilst benign enough, if you want to drive it quick it does need a bit of driving. It is traction limited through 1st and 2nd in the dry so you can't just uneventfully accelerate at wide open throttle. You can drive briskly without event but it demands some driver input to drive it fast.
Steering feel and response is probably the best I've experienced in a modern family sized car.
It has a character.
QuattroDave said:
theboss said:
OP my advice would be to use the lowly "spare" 147 for your commute, revelling in all its 44mpg glory, whilst reserving the RS6 for journeys in which its engine oil will actually warm up. Also disengage accountant's brain whilst using it - you can't possibly rationalise RS6 ownership on any sort of economic grounds.
Yup, that man has wise words.Have seriously considered the 147 for this week, see how I get on and I really DO try to turn accountant brain off. It's a great thing that has afforded me nice cars but it's also the destroyer of enjoyment in said cars!
Think a couple of PH stickers over the trip computer and fuel gauge will cure the problem
You have to ask yourself what more you could reasonably want - if the answer is 30mpg average then quite simply you bought the wrong car!
Try and ignore mpg and just enjoy the car for what it is.
My experience is once you decide a car is not for you, it doesn't get any better. Sell it before you get lumbered with a huge bill.
I'm a bit of a car extremist - I like involving cars which love being ragged and bizarrely, wafty automatic barges with zero sportiness at all. Inbetween, jack of all trade stuff tends to leave me cold. To get enjoyment from the RS6 you need to reach speeds which just aren't going to happen on our roads?
I'm a bit of a car extremist - I like involving cars which love being ragged and bizarrely, wafty automatic barges with zero sportiness at all. Inbetween, jack of all trade stuff tends to leave me cold. To get enjoyment from the RS6 you need to reach speeds which just aren't going to happen on our roads?
QuattroDave said:
gizlaroc said:
I sold my M3 CSL and 5 series diesel touring for an V8 S4 avant.
Terrible decision, terrible car, just failed on every level.
For me Audis work when there is not too much expected from them.
I loved my 3.2 Quattro A6 Avant, SE spec and it was lovely, different expectations.
My one and only new car purchase was an A6 avant, the lowly tdi-e variant but with £10k of options added. I knew it'd be an unengaging drive but it did everything else so well, averaged 53mpg over 23k miles, could carry a single divan and mattress in the back (tip run special!) had all the toys you could ever want (digital freeview tv, 30gb hard drive player, dvd player, cd changer, bose, heated leathered everything. For the engagement I had the UR quattro. Only real issue I had with it aside from falling asleep behind the wheel was the most god awful offset pedals, you could only really get comfortable by sitting pretty much on the bolster and aiming your whole body towards the pedals!Terrible decision, terrible car, just failed on every level.
For me Audis work when there is not too much expected from them.
I loved my 3.2 Quattro A6 Avant, SE spec and it was lovely, different expectations.
I had considered an Audi with the 3.0 tfsi, either the S4 or A6 but I knew I would ruck up to an RS one day at the lights and regret it!
Sounds like the concensus is to head back to a two car setup. i.e. use my 'spare' 147 for daily grind and the RS6 for weekend and journey fun (or a.n.other fun toy).
But, if I end up not using the RS6 as a daily then I may as well have a boggo family duty estate and a gtr/911 or something for the weekend. To me it seems a little perverse to have a 'family' car as a weekend toy!
I know a guy who loves performance cars , he recently bought a JAG XF diesel
When I asked why he said it was for the economy , he's had it a year and done 4500 miles in it
Depreciation is the biggest cost in car ownership by a country mile but people are obsessed with cheap tax and mpg
I've owned a 09 WRX hatch for the last 2.5 years and I love it to bits , fast enough to be fun, averages 23mpg mostly round town but the best bit is ownership has almost been free, I may lose 10-15% on it when I sell it
Next year I'm hoping to fulfil a lifetimes dream by buying a Maserati , I've always wanted one so the hunt begins in February/March , probably a quattroporte unless I can find a granturismo in budget (unlikely)
When I asked why he said it was for the economy , he's had it a year and done 4500 miles in it
Depreciation is the biggest cost in car ownership by a country mile but people are obsessed with cheap tax and mpg
I've owned a 09 WRX hatch for the last 2.5 years and I love it to bits , fast enough to be fun, averages 23mpg mostly round town but the best bit is ownership has almost been free, I may lose 10-15% on it when I sell it
Next year I'm hoping to fulfil a lifetimes dream by buying a Maserati , I've always wanted one so the hunt begins in February/March , probably a quattroporte unless I can find a granturismo in budget (unlikely)
wack said:
I know a guy who loves performance cars , he recently bought a JAG XF diesel
When I asked why he said it was for the economy , he's had it a year and done 4500 miles in it
Depreciation is the biggest cost in car ownership by a country mile but people are obsessed with cheap tax and mpg
I've owned a 09 WRX hatch for the last 2.5 years and I love it to bits , fast enough to be fun, averages 23mpg mostly round town but the best bit is ownership has almost been free, I may lose 10-15% on it when I sell it
Next year I'm hoping to fulfil a lifetimes dream by buying a Maserati , I've always wanted one so the hunt begins in February/March , probably a quattroporte unless I can find a granturismo in budget (unlikely)
Depreciation for me for the next year or so will be pretty much nil. When discs and pads need changing it'll be £2k dealers or £900 if I do it myself (with oem quality parts). That's about it for costs other than fuel. Thanks for all the comments so far. I'm having a good day today and beating down the inner accountant so the mpg thing isn't the biggest issue for me. It's whether the £25k would be better used on other things for my smiles!When I asked why he said it was for the economy , he's had it a year and done 4500 miles in it
Depreciation is the biggest cost in car ownership by a country mile but people are obsessed with cheap tax and mpg
I've owned a 09 WRX hatch for the last 2.5 years and I love it to bits , fast enough to be fun, averages 23mpg mostly round town but the best bit is ownership has almost been free, I may lose 10-15% on it when I sell it
Next year I'm hoping to fulfil a lifetimes dream by buying a Maserati , I've always wanted one so the hunt begins in February/March , probably a quattroporte unless I can find a granturismo in budget (unlikely)
I may even take the longer route home tonight to have some bonding time as all my driving so far has been to get to a set place!
QuattroDave said:
theboss said:
OP my advice would be to use the lowly "spare" 147 for your commute, revelling in all its 44mpg glory, whilst reserving the RS6 for journeys in which its engine oil will actually warm up. Also disengage accountant's brain whilst using it - you can't possibly rationalise RS6 ownership on any sort of economic grounds.
Yup, that man has wise words.Have seriously considered the 147 for this week, see how I get on and I really DO try to turn accountant brain off. It's a great thing that has afforded me nice cars but it's also the destroyer of enjoyment in said cars!
Think a couple of PH stickers over the trip computer and fuel gauge will cure the problem
You could even take it and get the 3.7 conversion done. It should hold its value quite well if not go up in value. Differing variants go up to around 10-11k for really good condition ones.
jimmybobby said:
If you like your little 147 why not go down the route of getting a 147 GTA or 156 GTA SW? In particular the SW should be the best bet as they are rare and getting rarer in RHD. IIRC there were only ever something like 125 RHD 156 GTA SW.
You could even take it and get the 3.7 conversion done. It should hold its value quite well if not go up in value. Differing variants go up to around 10-11k for really good condition ones.
I like your thinking there JimmybobYou could even take it and get the 3.7 conversion done. It should hold its value quite well if not go up in value. Differing variants go up to around 10-11k for really good condition ones.
I do like the look of the 147 GTA just wish it had the later front end like our other two have, makes the car look miles better
QuattroDave said:
jontysafe said:
You`re compromised for both roles, as a bus it`s redonkulous and as a fun car it`s redonkulous as well albeit for different reasons.
Buy two cars better suited to their individual roles.
How much will you get if you sell the RS6?
With any luck about £25k.Buy two cars better suited to their individual roles.
How much will you get if you sell the RS6?
Sell it and buy something sensible and something mad.
I bought a VW CC and a cosworth turbo Westfield for a little bit more than £25k but you could buy similar
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