VW in trouble over alleged US emission test manipulations
Discussion
mollytherocker said:
So, to be clear, you would rather murder baby seals than lose 10bhp?
Just interested....
So, to be clear, you think fixing the affected cars will have some measurable impact on the environment, and that silly comments about murdering baby seals is a good way to make your point? Just interested...Just interested....
gizlaroc said:
mollytherocker said:
It doesnt work fine. Its polluting way above the regs.
As does every car out there. I am very anti diesel, but get a grip.
As soon as anyone 'drives' their car, no matter what engine it is, it will be outputting roughly 10x what they output on the test.
Oh and have a source as well: https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Driv... Page 28 table 2.
Fastdruid said:
Except that's not true. Petrol cars don't (don't get me wrong it's still not fluffy kittens and butterflies coming out of the tailpipe), petrol cars under "realistic" driving tests are still under the limits, diesels are massively over even at Euro 6.
Oh and have a source as well: https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Driv... Page 28 table 2.
I didn't realise petrols managed to stay under even in real world situations. Oh and have a source as well: https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Driv... Page 28 table 2.
Diesel owners should be ashamed of themselves. Selfish, ignorant a
holes. 
Interesting graph (from page 5 here http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/10/11/emissionar... )
So in a "Real world study on Euro 5 light-duty diesels" by Imperial College London and Emissions Analytics in 2014. NOx levels exceeding standards by three times in most cases and not one of the tested cars managed to get near Euro 5.
So in a "Real world study on Euro 5 light-duty diesels" by Imperial College London and Emissions Analytics in 2014. NOx levels exceeding standards by three times in most cases and not one of the tested cars managed to get near Euro 5.
hmm.. so let's see.
VW finally get hauled over the coals in the US for sitting on their hands and doing nothing about NOx after being told to sort it.
Somehow in Europe VW now feel the need to retro-fit SCR to EU5 EA189 models. Which is where all this starts to stink, and to my mind indicates those engines failed EU5 testing but somehow passed, otherwise why are VW going to do this? So VW cars will now make convert water into wine?
VW also publicly claim it was just a couple of engineers...
Oh, and Winterkorn is *still* CEO of other VAG group sections.
So that's VAG permanently off the list of sources for replacing the current VW.
VW finally get hauled over the coals in the US for sitting on their hands and doing nothing about NOx after being told to sort it.
Somehow in Europe VW now feel the need to retro-fit SCR to EU5 EA189 models. Which is where all this starts to stink, and to my mind indicates those engines failed EU5 testing but somehow passed, otherwise why are VW going to do this? So VW cars will now make convert water into wine?
VW also publicly claim it was just a couple of engineers...
Oh, and Winterkorn is *still* CEO of other VAG group sections.
So that's VAG permanently off the list of sources for replacing the current VW.
The way I look at it is if they found they can fiddle one set of tests then why not fiddle the others too if it is going to save them money or give them a marketing advantage (or both). I can't see too many car enthusiasts buying a diesel but the average punter is going to be influenced by low VED, good economy and the perceived VW build quality.
heebeegeetee said:
Gio G said:
Received an official letter this morning from Audi, saying my car is impacted...
A service action will need to happen in the future, however no details as yet and will contact me in the future...
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Do you get a translation guide to Audi-speak?A service action will need to happen in the future, however no details as yet and will contact me in the future...
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He's yet to action that one.
heebeegeetee said:
Gio G said:
Received an official letter this morning from Audi, saying my car is impacted...
A service action will need to happen in the future, however no details as yet and will contact me in the future...
G
Do you get a translation guide to Audi-speak?A service action will need to happen in the future, however no details as yet and will contact me in the future...
G
Monkeylegend said:
"vorsprung broke technik"
"Technical Solutions are currently being developed and the matter is being worked upon with the utmost priority""We will contact you again when the technical solution is available to confirm next steps"
I might reply with how about giving me an RS6 and I will forget about the cheating!
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