RE: Jaguar XE S: Delivery Miles

[ziggy328]

hmmmmm - XE-S or Alpha Guilia? I know they aren't like for like - however wonder how the pricing stacks up

[thecremeegg]

I know, how is it possible?

[ka90]

Saw one of these in Winchester yesterday- XE SE 2.0 diesel in red. Looked ok and a nice change to the A4 and 3 series brigade. The only thing that stood out were the rear lights. They seem to be the same as the F type.

[unpc]

sideways sid said:

Still can't get my head around the XE weighing less than the F-Type!

F Type is a shortened XK platform and designed a long time ago. There's not a lot of opportunity to take weight out. XE was all new so can be lighter although still no featherweight.

As already said the P-Face is the closest we'll get to an estate version for a long time. You can get that in rwd if so desired. It's only us Europeans that buy estates anyway.

[Frimley111R]

edinph said:

Now that people are waking up to the fact that diesels are NOT the way ahead...

Edited by edinph on Thursday 24th September 11:39

In Autocar recently someone said the petrol cars are £5000 less than diesels which would explain it!

[SuperHangOn]

Somehow these look so much better in the metal than the photos.

[kambites]

sideways sid said:

Still can't get my head around the XE weighing less than the F-Type!

Whilst the F-type is very heavy for what it is, I think people also tend to under-estimate how big it is. I suspect the F-type and XE are surprisingly similar in terms of dimensions and the F-type has been designed to be rigid with the roof lopped off which always pushes the weight up.

Would you expect an SL to be lighter than a C-class?

Edited by kambites on Thursday 24th September 14:53

[MrHooky83]

While I think they look nice I'm not sure that looks a £50k car. There's something about the back end that looks a bit 'squashed'. Admittedly better looking than the awkwardly proportioned C class though. The 'R' version is going to have to up the stakes a lot to rival the visual aggression of the M3 and AMG equivalents and differentiate itself from the 'S' and below models.

Those big sports seats also seem to leave zero rear leg room.

Think I'll keep my 360bhp 15 year old S8 which cost less than a 10th of the price and has more road presence..

[j_s14a]

Jaguars history of making their range toppers look more aggressive speaks for itself, just look at the XKR-S.

As an admitted fan of the old A8/S8, i'd still have to argue that it doesn't have the road presence of the Jag, unless you mean purely in size. They are so understated that most people couldn't tell the difference between an A4/A6/A8 or S8 of that vintage, and they look tame compared to something like an E39 M5.

[edinph]

My other Jaguar moan is that they REALLY need to offer more interior choice. On the XE it's black or black/red and that's it! I want a nice cream or tan interior on a navy car!

[JonnyVTEC]

edinph said:

My other Jaguar moan is that they REALLY need to offer more interior choice. On the XE it's black or black/red and that's it! I want a nice cream or tan interior on a navy car!

Guess that's R Sport? Other interior colours are for the other trim levels.

[anonymous-user]

Someone has got to sort out the images on this website.

[Little Lofty]

BMW 340i on Broadspeed around £30k, Jaguar XE S around £41k. As much as I like them, Jaguar are overpricing their cars imo.

[anonymous-user]

GTEYE said:

kambites said:

hornetrider said:

Should have launched both at the same time - there's no real reason not to.

Well it would have pushed the release date of the saloon out significantly, which given that it's a new market for them (or at least one they haven't been in for a while) would probably have cost them significant numbers of sales, overall.

Perhaps we shouldn't have expected them to have launched it at the same time, but we would feel better if there was evidence that it would follow along with coupe and cabrio variants over the next 12-24 months as per the industry norm.

But sadly, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that they are working on those variants.

Jag - Please don't make the same mistake as the original XF, the estate arrived way too late...

This exists for a reason.

[oop north]

hornetrider said:

As far as I'm aware the other manufacturers Jaguar are targetting don't stagger the launch of body styles significantly in this way - BM, Audi, Merc for example.

But they do! The c class estate was definitely a bit behind the saloon - I just did a quick google and the saloon launched in June and the estate November. That said, I am not aware the Jag even has an estate anywhere near the road

It's an engineering capacity thing though - the XF estate took years to appear

[Chris Rees]

Having driven the BMW 340i and Jag XE S within a couple of weeks of each other, the BMW feels like it's targeted at the US market, while the Jag is more Euro-centric. The BMW engine is smooth, torquey and refined but doesn't have the linearity, raw power and exuberant sound that the Jag does. I admit, I'm broadly more in favour of the supercharger as a route to boosting power in petrol engines.

And re Alfa Giulia pricing, the launch price of the Cloverleaf in Italy will be around 79,000 euros, or £58,000. That's very much M3 territory.

[DeltonaS]

Chris Rees said:

And re Alfa Giulia pricing, the launch price of the Cloverleaf in Italy will be around 79,000 euros, or £58,000. That's very much M3 territory.

That's probably becuase it's an M3,C63, RS4 rival ;-)

[DeltonaS]

edinph said:

Now that people are waking up to the fact that diesels are NOT the way ahead, perhaps more petrol Jaguars will appear.

So just because VAG decided to cheat, suddenly diesels are not the way ahead.

Strange way of thinking and jumping to conclusions........

[Little Lofty]

DeltonaS said:

So just because VAG decided to cheat, suddenly diesels are not the way ahead.

Strange way of thinking and jumping to conclusions........

Diesels have been getting bad press for a while now, the VW thing will just add more meat to the argument against them.

[Zad]

Yes, people in power are coming to realise that headline CO2 isn't everything (but is conveniently easy to tax) and particulates and NOx among others have a part to play in air quality. You'd think that diesel smell hanging in the air around our roads might have been a clue really. The thing is though, that energy-dense fuel with compression ignition is always going to achieve better fuel consumption than petroleum. If you do anything other than a low mileage every year, then it is going to have a strong case.