Cars and 'high mileage' - are you one of the sheep?
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glasgowrob said:
Mileage is nothing
Is about how it's cared for
Agreed, my current car is fast approaching 191k, yet feels as good as it did when I bought it 11 years ago with just shy of 17k on it. Regular maintenance has certainly helped get it this far without many troubles.Is about how it's cared for
In fact apart from a new starter motor and windscreen wiper motor it hasn't cost me anything more than the usual consumables. Until the day it gets beyond economical repair I will continue to use it on a daily basis and clock up miles on it, if I can get it to 300k I will be happy
I'm on a cash for car deal, and rather than wasting my money on leasing, I go for 3 year old ex-company cars.
So far, a BMW 530d that I bought with 90k miles and took to 130k and an Alfa 159 JtdM that I bought with 75k miles and took to over 150k. Apart from a ball joint on the Alfa, both cost less to service in those periods than the previous owner had spent at main dealers in the first part of their life.
If it wasn't for our cash for car scheme having a 5 year limit, I would have taken these two to 200k+ with confidence.
So far, a BMW 530d that I bought with 90k miles and took to 130k and an Alfa 159 JtdM that I bought with 75k miles and took to over 150k. Apart from a ball joint on the Alfa, both cost less to service in those periods than the previous owner had spent at main dealers in the first part of their life.
If it wasn't for our cash for car scheme having a 5 year limit, I would have taken these two to 200k+ with confidence.
Willy Nilly said:
no machine I have ever used has got better with age.
Cars don't wear out in the UK very often, but they do become un-economical to repair.
Some wonderful cars would disappear if we all found the oldies uneconomical to repair, Cars don't wear out in the UK very often, but they do become un-economical to repair.
glad folks spend anyway to keep them going,
so we are not entirely overwhelmed with the chunrned out boredom mobiles.
Hooli said:
TLandCruiser said:
Depends on the car, anything French or ford I would say about 10miles it quite high.
I agree on new fords. We had a '58 plate fiesta that lunched it's valves after a head gasket failure at 20k.If you search for cars over 100K on Autotrader, a significant share are Focus and Mondeo. We ran two Focus 1.6TDCis to over 150k without any big bills.
Likewise, Renault engines are good enough to be used by Nissan and Mercedes, and some serious high mileage drivers on other forums are advocates for the Citroen C5 Estate.
The French and Ford stereotype is what, thankfully, keeps prices low and forces the sheep into the dealerships of brands with a better perception......
..Such as Volkswagen.
I only care in that the price must reflect the mileage so I don't lose out come resale time. I'm quite happy buying a 200k car but I appreciate it will be hard to sell so it must be cheap. My current barge was purchased at 103k and it drives like new and looks/feels like new inside, I am expecting it to do many many more miles quite happily.
Redlake27 said:
Hooli said:
TLandCruiser said:
Depends on the car, anything French or ford I would say about 10miles it quite high.
I agree on new fords. We had a '58 plate fiesta that lunched it's valves after a head gasket failure at 20k.If you search for cars over 100K on Autotrader, a significant share are Focus and Mondeo. We ran two Focus 1.6TDCis to over 150k without any big bills.
Likewise, Renault engines are good enough to be used by Nissan and Mercedes, and some serious high mileage drivers on other forums are advocates for the Citroen C5 Estate.
The French and Ford stereotype is what, thankfully, keeps prices low and forces the sheep into the dealerships of brands with a better perception......
..Such as Volkswagen.
As already said its not necessarily the mileage but how the cars been cared for throughout its life. I've driven cars that have felt tired and ropey on around 80k and another recently that felt tight and fresh with 130k. All about how the cars been maintained.
There are a few things to consider with mileage. 80k for me is a car that is past its best. High mileage I consider when serious failure of components may occur, 100k+. Obviously with lots of maintenence like a taxi you can get a ot more miles, but you need the car from new and how many people keep a car that long?
I will go with condition and history over numbers on a dial.
Have 141k on my car. I'm going to run it till 200k and then see how it's going.
Already had a suspension and brake overhaul so it's good in that sense. All genuine parts, not cheap pattern stuff.
Full service every 10k costs £85 for the filters and correct Castrol oil.
Still on original turbo, it does need 1 injector changed but that's hardly worth getting rid of.
Have 141k on my car. I'm going to run it till 200k and then see how it's going.
Already had a suspension and brake overhaul so it's good in that sense. All genuine parts, not cheap pattern stuff.
Full service every 10k costs £85 for the filters and correct Castrol oil.
Still on original turbo, it does need 1 injector changed but that's hardly worth getting rid of.
There seems to be a theme on here incorrectly where how a car drives and the quality of its interior directly correlates with how reliable a car is or will be.
High mileage obviously dictates how a car is worn and makes potential wear and tear replacements that much more likely.
A car with 500k miles could be a triggers broom and cost a fortune in continual maintenances costs so why bother.
Depreciation is a drain but at least it's not a physical cost each year.
High mileage obviously dictates how a car is worn and makes potential wear and tear replacements that much more likely.
A car with 500k miles could be a triggers broom and cost a fortune in continual maintenances costs so why bother.
Depreciation is a drain but at least it's not a physical cost each year.
The taxi company my employer uses run a fleet of E-class Mercs, typically they are run from new until between 300 - 400k miles before disposal. They feel and look like new cars, even the 300k mile one I was picked up in last Thursday evening. They are washed approx every 3 days and maintained fastidiously which helps but still pretty impressive.
In Germany you still see W124 taxis in most major cities, they have to be on half a million miles or more by now.
Ben
In Germany you still see W124 taxis in most major cities, they have to be on half a million miles or more by now.
Ben
Djtemeka said:
My old vicaro was 4 years old when we got rid. 10 months of that was sat in the lease vans yard before we became the first owner so we already lost some warranty.
30k miles and the clutch went £1500
Then as we left the repair shop the turbo went. Not sure of the cost on that one but we couldn't wait to get rid.
Those 2 repairs were almost going to cost a this'd to half its value in a week.
Vivaro DTI clutch is about 200 quid, and the turbo is circa 300 - 400 quid. Even with a few hours fitting these are not big enough numbers to panic and offload your 4 year old van. Definite sheep!30k miles and the clutch went £1500
Then as we left the repair shop the turbo went. Not sure of the cost on that one but we couldn't wait to get rid.
Those 2 repairs were almost going to cost a this'd to half its value in a week.
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