RE: Toyota GT86: PH Fleet
Discussion
LankyLegoHead said:
What, now they can afford it they might stop slagging it off? NEVER.
Haha, in all seriousness I think a few people are starting to change opinions. I frequent ClioSport a bit, and its ironic how many owners of the Clio 200 are slating this for not having enough power or torque, when the figures are almost identical to our car.
Lol I see a reasonable amount of this on civic type r forums both FN2 and EP3 owners, I know they have closer gearing but still odd.Haha, in all seriousness I think a few people are starting to change opinions. I frequent ClioSport a bit, and its ironic how many owners of the Clio 200 are slating this for not having enough power or torque, when the figures are almost identical to our car.
These type of comments do seem to be reducing.
em177 said:
I'm delighted we've reached a stage in the cars life we can have a few pages of thread of useful discussion and tips without anyone coming along to say it isn't powerful enough 
My sentiments too. The more I see these the more attractive they get. There's a Toyota dealer I pass occasionally and they had one in dark blue parked on the forecourt. It looked the business. In fact this is one of the few cars, IMO, that looks good in all the colours.To be fair I was in the 'too slow, not enough power' camp when the twins were released.
Maybe it's my age, growing up and seeing sense? I can fully understand some people will always want speed and pace, but I've moved into fun before power, especially with the roads, law, cameras and just safety/risk, I'm now quite happy with lower outputs.
Standard car is a quick car, just so are lots of other cars now.
If it's not enough just tune it or buy something else.
For me the 218bhp tuned one shown on this thread is ideal, a nice increase in power and revs to add that bit of spice to the mid range and top end. Adds that bit of flexibility for the B roads.
I may consider shorter final drive too, simple mod for more fun factor, don't need top speed anyway.
I don't even own one... Hopefully one day...
Maybe it's my age, growing up and seeing sense? I can fully understand some people will always want speed and pace, but I've moved into fun before power, especially with the roads, law, cameras and just safety/risk, I'm now quite happy with lower outputs.
Standard car is a quick car, just so are lots of other cars now.
If it's not enough just tune it or buy something else.
For me the 218bhp tuned one shown on this thread is ideal, a nice increase in power and revs to add that bit of spice to the mid range and top end. Adds that bit of flexibility for the B roads.
I may consider shorter final drive too, simple mod for more fun factor, don't need top speed anyway.
I don't even own one... Hopefully one day...
Edited by burridge1984 on Wednesday 30th September 14:03
Edited by burridge1984 on Wednesday 30th September 14:04
Conscript said:
Everyone knows that the quality of a car can only be judged on it's specific power output and it's 0-60 time.
:P
Hah Of course! TopTrumps rule of thumb.:P
It is refreshing to see big car companies go against this trend and build something "Fun".
This is a good read.
http://arstechnica.com/cars/2015/09/the-case-again...
Just read the old online review on WHAT CAR.
WHAT CAR said:
The GT86 is priced to compete with coupes such as the Audi TT and Peugeot RCZ, but it’s unlikely to hold its value as well as the Audi.
Looking on PH classifieds, if anything it's the reverse - mostly very similarly priced for original 2012 model.LordGrover said:
Looking on PH classifieds, if anything it's the reverse - mostly very similarly priced for original 2012 model.
All 3 year lease deals are starting to come to an end, and the used market will get a little bit more busy for these. Speaking to my dealer friend, he's saying any used GT Spec car that comes up is gone pretty fast as the demand is there. Which I then proved, by buying a 3 year old GT off him before they even put it up for sale.
Robert Elise said:
ECG1000 said:
Yep, my Milltek deletes the secondary CAT. The system starts from the OEM manifold which contains the first CAT. Hence 'primary CAT-back'. It consists of; overpipe, secondary CAT delete, mid-pipe and back box.
can i ask the noob questions....Edited by ECG1000 on Wednesday 30th September 10:33
what does the secondary cat actually do? What are the emissions like with it deleted?
How does the MoT judge this?
If the car came with 2 cats as standard then shouldn't it have 2 cats even if emissions are compliant?
Anybody have comparable Euro knowledge? Because i reckon modding the exhaust is technically a fail in many regimes. UK seems more lax/tolerant
i ask as my car is not uk registered.
The 2nd cat probably aids cleanup.
I think the extra cat is due to stricter emmisons in other countries. In the uk I believe as long as the car passes the emissions then the car gets an mot, regardless of how or what cats are there, sports cats are allowed if they are under the limit.
I am not 100% but removal of the 2nd cat has been through emmisons check by owners of modified GT86 cars, I think some have passed the other way round, ie. Removed primary cat and only 2nd cat in system.
burridge1984 said:
For me the 218bhp tuned one shown on this thread is ideal, a nice increase in power and revs to add that bit of spice to the mid range and top end. Adds that bit of flexibility for the B roads.
I may consider shorter final drive too, simple mod for more fun factor, don't need top speed anyway.
I had a passenger ride in one with similar modifications to mine but also a shorter final drive and manifold with a hi-flow CAT.I may consider shorter final drive too, simple mod for more fun factor, don't need top speed anyway.
This car had been rolling road tested at 230bhp. Along with the power increase and final drive, it definitely felt more punchy!
breezer42 said:
Would this be better on poor roads than a Lotus Elise 111R? Is the latter okay on Yorkshire roads, for example, or is it too low? I hadn't considered a GT86...
Having only driven an Exige on track, I can't pass comment on a comparison between the two cars.I live in West Yorkshire where the roads tend to be pretty dire in places. The GT86 copes admirably. Despite being a fair amount lower than standard, I haven't had any trouble with bottoming out or scraping on speed bumps etc.
breezer42 said:
Would this be better on poor roads than a Lotus Elise 111R? Is the latter okay on Yorkshire roads, for example, or is it too low? I hadn't considered a GT86...
The Lotus soaks up bumps admirably, whereas the GT gets a little unsettled on high frequency bumps and poor surfaces. For speed bumps and really big potholes the Lotus is much lower and caution needed not to scrape the underside. Yorkshire is a great place for either i'd imagine.burridge1984 said:
I don't actually know for sure any of the following...
The 2nd cat probably aids cleanup.
I think the extra cat is due to stricter emmisons in other countries. In the uk I believe as long as the car passes the emissions then the car gets an mot, regardless of how or what cats are there, sports cats are allowed if they are under the limit.
I am not 100% but removal of the 2nd cat has been through emmisons check by owners of modified GT86 cars, I think some have passed the other way round, ie. Removed primary cat and only 2nd cat in system.
i'm pretty sure some countries state that any change to a standard car is not allowed and needs separate inspection. Portugal and France come to mind, which is bizarre when you see what's on the road. It may however be the way the EU is leading us. I know others know more on this and i hope they see this and comment. .... as i'd like to change mine!The 2nd cat probably aids cleanup.
I think the extra cat is due to stricter emmisons in other countries. In the uk I believe as long as the car passes the emissions then the car gets an mot, regardless of how or what cats are there, sports cats are allowed if they are under the limit.
I am not 100% but removal of the 2nd cat has been through emmisons check by owners of modified GT86 cars, I think some have passed the other way round, ie. Removed primary cat and only 2nd cat in system.
ECG1000 said:
Thank you very much Mr. Lego
I would fully recommend the top three modifications as a starting point.
Really does make quite a difference. The car feels much more eager and relentless.
The rev limit is raised in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd too which enables you to drop right back into the meat of the power band.
Have you mods reduced/removed the torque dip, or is a change of exhaust manifold needed for that? I assume the higher rev limit is partly so you're above the dip after shifting? Does the power drop off much at the top end with the increased rev limit?I would fully recommend the top three modifications as a starting point.
Really does make quite a difference. The car feels much more eager and relentless.
The rev limit is raised in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd too which enables you to drop right back into the meat of the power band.
Thanks
ECG1000 said:
Thanks mate, means a lot. :-)
Well.....
As well as spraying the rear lights, I've slightly tinted the side indicators and the rear lower fog lamp.
Also plasdtidipped black the Toyota badges.
Very nice car with great spec!Well.....
- Milltek non-res primary cat-back
- Blitz Panel Filter
- Ecutek remap
- Fensport spec Tien Street Flex coilovers
- SuperPro rear subframe insert kit
- S-Wave rear adjustable control arms
- Whiteline roll centre adjuster kit
- DBA T3 slotted front discs
- Hawk HPS pads all round
- Laile master cylinder stopper
- Delphi dot 5.1 brake fluid
- Rota Titan 17x8 wheels
- TRD style rear spoiler
As well as spraying the rear lights, I've slightly tinted the side indicators and the rear lower fog lamp.
Also plasdtidipped black the Toyota badges.
Out of interest, what sort of MPG do you get with this spec [i.e the exhaust, filter and remap]?
I am considering a GT86, had a test drive of one and really liked it, but it would be a daily driver/commuter car and I'm slightly worried about the mpgs
As on any long term tests I read you are talking around 30mpg average - which I could never understand as they are quite a light car and not an overly powerful engine
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