Do you ever envy those rocket ships with 1WD?
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lostkiwi said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
I've been off bikes for a couple of years now, but it's not even about speed or acceleration
it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
All you do is press pedals and turn a wheel? You need to learn how to drive and not just be an operator. it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
obviously there is thinking about HOW and WHERE to move the vehicle, but the actual mechanics of moving it
Edited by Hugo a Gogo on Thursday 1st October 08:58
I sometimes think that it sounds like a good idea, I can go and get a top of the range super-spanky mega bike from some exotic outfit for essentially pocket change compared to the cost of equally exotic cars.
And then I see the way so many of them are driven, by a complete set of cock sockets, intent on pissing people off, showing off, or just riding like f
king loons.
Then there's the group hard man mentality when they get together for a hoon.
The illegal numberplates you see on so many of them are a minor, but recurring gripe too.
Oh yes, and dont get me started on the wanna-be hells angels crowd on their harleys, I can only assume have no exhaust/muffling at all because they sound like complete an utter st, just a ear splitting din. We live near a fairly main road, when you get a set of sports bikes go past they can sound pretty cool. Love it when the Lambos and Astons from a garage down the road go past... Uh Oh, it's the hells angels on their stupid noise machines... really they just sound terrible.
Add that all together. Puts me off...which is a shame... but I'm sure they aren't missing me!
It's definitely not all of them, but the dick heads are absolutely the majority of them that I see. I live a few miles away from a very busy "bikers cafe" so perhaps we just seem more of the nob jockeys than our fair share around this way?
And then I see the way so many of them are driven, by a complete set of cock sockets, intent on pissing people off, showing off, or just riding like f
king loons.Then there's the group hard man mentality when they get together for a hoon.
The illegal numberplates you see on so many of them are a minor, but recurring gripe too.
Oh yes, and dont get me started on the wanna-be hells angels crowd on their harleys, I can only assume have no exhaust/muffling at all because they sound like complete an utter s
t, just a ear splitting din. We live near a fairly main road, when you get a set of sports bikes go past they can sound pretty cool. Love it when the Lambos and Astons from a garage down the road go past... Uh Oh, it's the hells angels on their stupid noise machines... really they just sound terrible.Add that all together. Puts me off...which is a shame... but I'm sure they aren't missing me!
It's definitely not all of them, but the dick heads are absolutely the majority of them that I see. I live a few miles away from a very busy "bikers cafe" so perhaps we just seem more of the nob jockeys than our fair share around this way?
lostkiwi said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
what else do you do to move the vehicle?
Its like saying a biker does nothing more than twist a grip and tug on a twig then regain balance by jiggling about on the seat.....also, moving about on a bike is not to 'regain balance'
ILoveMondeo said:
I sometimes think that it sounds like a good idea, I can go and get a top of the range super-spanky mega bike from some exotic outfit for essentially pocket change compared to the cost of equally exotic cars.
And then I see the way so many of them are driven, by a complete set of cock sockets, intent on pissing people off, showing off, or just riding like fking loons.
Then there's the group hard man mentality when they get together for a hoon.
The illegal numberplates you see on so many of them are a minor, but recurring gripe too.
But surely you see exactly the same kind of behaviour in certain car drivers? How come teenagers ragging chavved up hatchbacks through council estates haven't put you off driving?And then I see the way so many of them are driven, by a complete set of cock sockets, intent on pissing people off, showing off, or just riding like f
king loons.Then there's the group hard man mentality when they get together for a hoon.
The illegal numberplates you see on so many of them are a minor, but recurring gripe too.
Have you never seen a car with an illegal numberplate?
Personally I don't "hoon" with large groups either in the car or the bike because the mentality and the resulting behaviour is exactly the same in both when random bunches of 'enthusiasts' get together. I only ride with family and friends who I trust.
LankyLegoHead said:
I've always wanted one, and for my 23rd Birthday earlier this month my Mum and her Husband bought me an old GPZ500S to learn on.
The GPZ is a great little bike, I had one some years back. Properly set up they aren't slow either, it will take a pretty serious car to keep up on acceleration. If you have the single front disc model and the brakes are poor, the caliper is very probably seized. An SV650 caliper bolts straight on and is a lot easier to find.Edited by Mr2Mike on Thursday 1st October 09:09
Any real driver would have to prefer bikes in theory as they have better power to weight and you are more involved in the experience.
However my journeys usually involve carrying something (kids, dog, tools etc) so a bike wouldn't work as transport.
I have considered getting one for trackdays but I suspect I would be a liability to others due to my lack of experience.
On the road - I'm unwilling to take the risk of injury due from car drivers.
I've owned Westfields and find I don't use them - I don't go for pleasure drives and find an MX5 a better compromise.
However my journeys usually involve carrying something (kids, dog, tools etc) so a bike wouldn't work as transport.
I have considered getting one for trackdays but I suspect I would be a liability to others due to my lack of experience.
On the road - I'm unwilling to take the risk of injury due from car drivers.
I've owned Westfields and find I don't use them - I don't go for pleasure drives and find an MX5 a better compromise.
lostkiwi said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
I've been off bikes for a couple of years now, but it's not even about speed or acceleration
it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
All you do is press pedals and turn a wheel? You need to learn how to drive and not just be an operator. it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
ILoveMondeo said:
......It's definitely not all of them, but the dick heads are absolutely the majority of them that I see. I live a few miles away from a very busy "bikers cafe" so perhaps we just seem more of the nob jockeys than our fair share around this way?
You get the same with any 'group' though; I've seen plenty of knobs in fast cars driving like they're on circuit. Even more worryingly is the amount of drivers who just aren't paying attention. Bikers may act like dicks, but at least you know they are fully focused on the road. Riding home from work, the sheer amount of people I see sat on their phones is incredible.Completely agree about Harley riders though
WinstonWolf said:
lostkiwi said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
I've been off bikes for a couple of years now, but it's not even about speed or acceleration
it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
All you do is press pedals and turn a wheel? You need to learn how to drive and not just be an operator. it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
ILoveMondeo said:
I sometimes think that it sounds like a good idea, I can go and get a top of the range super-spanky mega bike from some exotic outfit for essentially pocket change compared to the cost of equally exotic cars.
And then I see the way so many of them are driven, by a complete set of cock sockets, intent on pissing people off, showing off, or just riding like fking loons.
Then there's the group hard man mentality when they get together for a hoon.
The illegal numberplates you see on so many of them are a minor, but recurring gripe too.
Oh yes, and dont get me started on the wanna-be hells angels crowd on their harleys, I can only assume have no exhaust/muffling at all because they sound like complete an utter st, just a ear splitting din. We live near a fairly main road, when you get a set of sports bikes go past they can sound pretty cool. Love it when the Lambos and Astons from a garage down the road go past... Uh Oh, it's the hells angels on their stupid noise machines... really they just sound terrible.
Add that all together. Puts me off...which is a shame... but I'm sure they aren't missing me!
It's definitely not all of them, but the dick heads are absolutely the majority of them that I see. I live a few miles away from a very busy "bikers cafe" so perhaps we just seem more of the nob jockeys than our fair share around this way?
Yes ... Good thinking. And then I see the way so many of them are driven, by a complete set of cock sockets, intent on pissing people off, showing off, or just riding like f
king loons.Then there's the group hard man mentality when they get together for a hoon.
The illegal numberplates you see on so many of them are a minor, but recurring gripe too.
Oh yes, and dont get me started on the wanna-be hells angels crowd on their harleys, I can only assume have no exhaust/muffling at all because they sound like complete an utter s
t, just a ear splitting din. We live near a fairly main road, when you get a set of sports bikes go past they can sound pretty cool. Love it when the Lambos and Astons from a garage down the road go past... Uh Oh, it's the hells angels on their stupid noise machines... really they just sound terrible.Add that all together. Puts me off...which is a shame... but I'm sure they aren't missing me!
It's definitely not all of them, but the dick heads are absolutely the majority of them that I see. I live a few miles away from a very busy "bikers cafe" so perhaps we just seem more of the nob jockeys than our fair share around this way?
A knobhead has never driven a car right? Never seen an illegal number plate on a car? No Sireee...
Good stereotyping.
lostkiwi said:
WinstonWolf said:
lostkiwi said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
I've been off bikes for a couple of years now, but it's not even about speed or acceleration
it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
All you do is press pedals and turn a wheel? You need to learn how to drive and not just be an operator. it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
Mr2Mike said:
Cyder said:
I also can't see the appeal of needing to dress up in a gimp suit every time you want to go on a journey.
Bikers don't (generally) wear leathers because it appeals to them, they do it so they have a chance of surviving when a half asleep driver does something silly.t, I thought it was a fetish thing.I quite like not having to wear bondage suits or Kevlar bulletproof clothes in order to survive the merest of journeys to the shops.
Go on then, I'll begrudgingly admit that sometimes it would be nice to sneak through a traffic jam or jump the queue at traffic lights.
WinstonWolf said:
lostkiwi said:
WinstonWolf said:
lostkiwi said:
Hugo a Gogo said:
I've been off bikes for a couple of years now, but it's not even about speed or acceleration
it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
All you do is press pedals and turn a wheel? You need to learn how to drive and not just be an operator. it's such a tactile thing, tiny movements of fingers and toes, natural shifts of body weight for instant response, like an extension of yourself - whereas in a car you are wholly separate from the movement of the car, all you can do is press the pedals and turn the wheel
oh and wheelies, definitely wheelies
Mr2Mike said:
Cyder said:
I also can't see the appeal of needing to dress up in a gimp suit every time you want to go on a journey.
Bikers don't (generally) wear leathers because it appeals to them, they do it so they have a chance of surviving when a half asleep driver does something silly.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff