RE: Octavia vRS goes 4x4

[Theophany]

Phil74 said:

Indeed.

According to this

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1...

It's just over £19k

R&D ain't free.

[Phil74]

O.k. Just looked at the new prices of the 2.0 TSI Petrol and that starts a shade under £24k. Not quite as bad as the £27k but still double the rate of inflation.

I'm not sure why I'm bothered though, the chances of me having even £14k, of my own money, to spend on a car are rather slim.

[kambites]

Phil74 said:

O.k. Just looked at the new prices of the 2.0 TSI Petrol and that starts a shade under £24k. Not quite as bad as the £27k but still double the rate of inflation.

Indeed, but it's a bigger, more refined, faster, better equipped car. If someone wants to buy a mk1 Octavia new, a Rapid is probably a better bet than a current Octavia.

[budgie smuggler]

Phil74 said:

budgie smuggler said:

They were £17.5k list which is £24k in todays money.

That's the mk2 list price. The original mk1 Vrs Octy was £14k list.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/used-reviews/skoda/o...

What's £14k in todays money?

Oh okay. You said it was a new car in 2005, so I looked up the new-in-2005 model's price.

Was the mk1 priced at £14k in 2001 as well? If so that puts it at ~£21k today.

Not too different to the current price, and people seem to be a lot more comfortable getting finance now anyway so the list price doesn't seem to be so important. I'd prefer to buy outright but nobody else does any more.

Edited by budgie smuggler on Friday 2nd October 14:18

[Phil74]

kambites said:

Indeed, but it's a bigger, more refined, faster, better equipped car. If someone wants to buy a mk1 Octavia new, a Rapid is probably a better bet than a current Octavia.

I've never really looked at the Rapid. I have just checked it out on Parkers and you've got a really good point. If they did the Rapid with a rapid petrol engine then it would probably come in at price that is much easier to relate to the mk1.

I'll leave it there, happy in the knowledge that the Rapid exists.

[kambites]

Phil74 said:

I've never really looked at the Rapid. I have just checked it out on Parkers and you've got a really good point. If they did the Rapid with a rapid petrol engine then it would probably come in at price that is much easier to relate to the mk1.

I'll leave it there, happy in the knowledge that the Rapid exists.

To be honest from what I've read the Rapid isn't particularly good; but then nor is the mk1 Octavia really.

[Phil74]

budgie smuggler said:

Phil74 said:

budgie smuggler said:

They were £17.5k list which is £24k in todays money.

That's the mk2 list price. The original mk1 Vrs Octy was £14k list.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/used-reviews/skoda/o...

What's £14k in todays money?

Oh okay. You said it was a new car in 2005, so I looked up the new-in-2005 model's price.

Was the mk1 priced at £14k in 2001 as well? If so that puts it at ~£21k today.

Not too different to the current price, and people seem to be a lot more comfortable getting finance now anyway so the list price doesn't seem to be so important. I'd prefer to buy outright but nobody else does any more.

Edited by budgie smuggler on Friday 2nd October 14:18

Phil74 said:

I remember ordering a brand new MK1 Octavia VRS hatch as a company car in '05. Was about £14K.

I don't know what they were when they were introduced though.

[JD]

budgie smuggler said:

Shame there's no petrol available, no interest in a diesel but that's otherwise just what I'm after. Guess it would poach too many sales from the premium lines.

You can get the Superb, with 4x4 DSG and the 280bhp Petrol motor....

[Dale487]

budgie smuggler said:

Phil74 said:

budgie smuggler said:

They were £17.5k list which is £24k in todays money.

That's the mk2 list price. The original mk1 Vrs Octy was £14k list.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/used-reviews/skoda/o...

What's £14k in todays money?

Oh okay. You said it was a new car in 2005, so I looked up the new-in-2005 model's price.

Was the mk1 priced at £14k in 2001 as well? If so that puts it at ~£21k today.

Not too different to the current price, and people seem to be a lot more comfortable getting finance now anyway so the list price doesn't seem to be so important. I'd prefer to buy outright but nobody else does any more.

Edited by budgie smuggler on Friday 2nd October 14:18

I prefer to buy out right - but couldn't get a better deal for cash, it was 0% & free servicing

But the Octivia VRS has moved up a notch or 2 in the last 10 years - far nicer interior, Sat Nav as standard, more power etc - enough to justify the above inflation price increase. (bar the cheating, dirty, diesel engine!)

[Legatron]

it's these kind of cars that are only going to sell more Focus RS' at that price point.

[MrBarry123]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Yup, smart people in cold countries who need traction buy regular cars in the 4wd version.

Dim people in UK who don't need traction but want to impress the neighbours buy expensive 4wd SUVs.

[JonoG81]

MrBarry123 said:

Ozzie Osmond said:

Yup, smart people in cold countries who need traction buy regular cars in the 4wd version.

Dim people in UK who don't need traction but want to impress the neighbours buy expensive 4wd SUVs.

I have never heard anything so preposterous in all my life

Everybody knows they are bought to impress the yummy mummy brigade at the local infant/junior school, and the workers of the local fine coffee emporium whilst picking up the latest java chip Frappuccino

[liner33]

kambites said:

To be honest from what I've read the Rapid isn't particularly good; but then nor is the mk1 Octavia really.

nor is the MK2 , the MK3 is a significant step up from the older car , the MK2 wasnt that big a development over the mk1

[Dan Trent]

I was going to order fish'n'chips for tea but it turns out we've got humble pie on the menu instead; as has been pointed out already in the thread and now confirmed by Skoda no cars in its current range use the Euro 5 2.0 TDI EA189 engine affected by the whole Dieselgate crisis and subsequently the angle of Skoda getting the stty end of the VW Group stick and having to announce a car with a 'dodgy' engine was entirely wrong. To be clear all 2.0 TDI Skodas currently on sale are Euro 6 compliant and therefore totally unaffected by the emissions affair. Apologies for any confusion.

This is an inexcusable cock-up and we should have known better and properly checked our facts before publishing.

Apologies from us all and permit me a while I wait for that pie to reach eating temperature.

Cheers,

Dan

[MrBarry123]

Until we find out the Euro 6 compliancy was faked as well...

[lozgti]

Clivey said:

Shame wages haven't increased by the same percentage.

Still, even with the controversy, these cars are dull, dull, dull.

Definitely not dull!

Well done Skoda.Excellent cars and you are upsetting dull Audi owners.lol

[cooperd5]

The mk1 vRS was knocked out for buttons at the end of the run, 2004-ish, £14k iirc. Bargain, even if it was old tech!

[DoubleD]

The Skoda VRS is a very capable car, but IMO they are really dull.

[kambites]

liner33 said:

nor is the MK2 , the MK3 is a significant step up from the older car , the MK2 wasnt that big a development over the mk1

In terms of perceived (and quite possibly real) quality perhaps, but the chassis was in a different league just as the mk5 Golf was a step change from the mk4. The mk2's chassis is at least average for its class; the mk1 was dire.

[kambites]

DoubleD said:

The Skoda VRS is a very capable car, but IMO they are really dull.

Our mk2 certainly fits that description. Although to be fair, that could be said to sum up 90% of modern hot hatches.