RE: Volkswagen Golf R: PH Fleet

RE: Volkswagen Golf R: PH Fleet

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J4CKO

41,641 posts

201 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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redroadster said:
Can revo warrant there work,if so that's an impressive performance pack will be interesting if they can do same to new focus rs which is thousands cheaper to start with.
I suspect that it will happen for the Focus RS, maybe even more as it has an extra 300 cc to play with, plus there are loads of MK2 Focus RS's running 400 plus bhp.


Going to be some mentally fast hatches about.

zeDuffMan

4,057 posts

152 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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I'd love to know how they make that reliable. If it was that easy VW would have come out with the R400/420 by now, surely?

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Nice looking car, shame the engine bay looks crap.

also couldn't resist this one, lol

Darsettian

74 posts

116 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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andrewparker said:
The more I see of the estate the more I like it. I almost wish I'd ordered one instead of the hatchback.
if you assume, as I do, this is a fast car not a fun car, you may aswell maximize its utility by buying the estate. At the same time you'd reduce its siren quotient.



court

1,487 posts

217 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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Darsettian said:
andrewparker said:
The more I see of the estate the more I like it. I almost wish I'd ordered one instead of the hatchback.
if you assume, as I do, this is a fast car not a fun car, you may aswell maximize its utility by buying the estate. At the same time you'd reduce its siren quotient.
If the estate would have been available at the time I would have had it. Shame it doesn't have the LED rear lights though...

Think I'll be swapping it for a new S4 Avant if the numbers are right.

b0rk

2,310 posts

147 months

Saturday 3rd October 2015
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redroadster said:
Can revo warrant there work,
Historically Revo like most tuners do not offer step-in warranties.

So anyone know the full parts list for stage 3? I assume its Intake + TBE + TTE450 (uprated turbo) + Fuel pump, the pictures indicate a big brake kit has been fitted as well. Then again I thought the TTE450 had been temporarily discontinued.

SR06

749 posts

187 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Escort Si-130 said:
Nice looking car, shame the engine bay looks crap.

also couldn't resist this one, lol
The engine bay looks crap???

Have you just found a copy of Max Power? What's next 'The new Focus RS needs Tiger stripes'

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

185 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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I've covered 7000 miles in my Golf R 5dr DSG and I stil can't think of a car that I've liked more as a daily driver. So much so that my next car might be another R but an estate in black with Pretorias fitted this time

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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b0rk said:
Historically Revo like most tuners do not offer step-in warranties.

So anyone know the full parts list for stage 3? I assume its Intake + TBE + TTE450 (uprated turbo) + Fuel pump, the pictures indicate a big brake kit has been fitted as well. Then again I thought the TTE450 had been temporarily discontinued.
From a VAG perspective, I think S3 generally constitutes the following:
- Uprated turbo (including all ancillary parts - manifold etc.)
- Uprated intake
- Full turbo-back exhaust system
- Uprated HPFP
- Uprated intercooler
- Uprated injectors

After which you look at things like strengthened rods, pistons, water-meth however that begins to go into the realms of S3+ and S4 - both of which aren't really defined properly and their eventual "shape" is more determined by how much money you have to throw at the car and how far you're prepared to push the block.

From the reading I've done, provided you do stages in the proper way i.e. you do them in full and therefore leave no weak link in the upgrade chain, up to and including S3 is reliable and has been tested at length by Revo, APR etc. Beyond that and things start to go a bit murky RE: reliability, drivability etc.

Edited by MrBarry123 on Tuesday 6th October 00:09

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

149 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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zeDuffMan said:
I'd love to know how they make that reliable. If it was that easy VW would have come out with the R400/420 by now, surely?
Remember that manufacturers have to pass NVH, Emissions (without cheating), servicing requirements etc and they have to make the maths work.

A tuning company buys off the shelf parts (usually better than OEM) and bolts them together with no second thought for emissions and NVH etc.

Oranges and Apples.

J4CKO

41,641 posts

201 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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dukebox9reg said:
zeDuffMan said:
I'd love to know how they make that reliable. If it was that easy VW would have come out with the R400/420 by now, surely?
Remember that manufacturers have to pass NVH, Emissions (without cheating), servicing requirements etc and they have to make the maths work.

A tuning company buys off the shelf parts (usually better than OEM) and bolts them together with no second thought for emissions and NVH etc.

Oranges and Apples.
Also, I guess most of the time you arent using all 450 bhp, I am thinking that it would be drivetrain rather than engine that would be my primary concern, driveshafts, clutch(es) etc, also when the car is fairly new I dont see it as an issue but perhaps more so when it ages, hoses and stuff popping and the like. I would hope the rods, crank and headgasket are overengineered by some margin to cope indefinitely under fairly sympathetic ownership.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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Ali_T said:
Because most tuned cars are just remaps and do go bang because noone bothered to replace the internals with better quality parts.
Never knew that most remapped cars go bang?

dukebox9reg

1,571 posts

149 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Ali_T said:
Because most tuned cars are just remaps and do go bang because noone bothered to replace the internals with better quality parts.
Never knew that most remapped cars go bang?
None have mine ever have but I always have been with fairly well known companies. DTUK and AMD Essex etc

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Never knew that most remapped cars go bang?
The ones putting out 450bhp from 2 litres do.

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

122 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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St John Smythe said:
Ali_T said:
Because most tuned cars are just remaps and do go bang because noone bothered to replace the internals with better quality parts.
Never knew that most remapped cars go bang?
He didn't say most remapped cars go bang but that most tuned cars are only remapped (which I would imagine to be true) and do go bang (which some do) because people stick a remap on and think they're done.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 6th October 2015
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MrBarry123 said:
St John Smythe said:
Ali_T said:
Because most tuned cars are just remaps and do go bang because noone bothered to replace the internals with better quality parts.
Never knew that most remapped cars go bang?
He didn't say most remapped cars go bang but that most tuned cars are only remapped (which I would imagine to be true) and do go bang (which some do) because people stick a remap on and think they're done.
Never heard of any going bang. In percentage terms the amount that do have terminal engine problems must absolutely tiny. Golf R is turning out to be a pretty awesome bit of kit!

wolfgangamadeus

1 posts

103 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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xRIEx said:
So, no clue as to what they've done to it to get 450hp, or the cost involved? Nope? Nothing? Ah well, we can just guess I suppose, or make it up or break open some fortune cookies and see if we can find the answer in there.
Intake, Intercooler, Turbo, TBE, Stage 3 Software. You'd reckon there is DSG software for all the torque!

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

220 months

Wednesday 7th October 2015
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A Volkswagen Golf Evo.

Now you can drive an Evo in a suit and not get any hassle - how things have come along!