Fun, nippy car 2.5k budget

Fun, nippy car 2.5k budget

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Big Bad Ben

251 posts

238 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
DMAN5S said:
Im currently 17 and will have 1 years NCD very shortly, fingers crossed. I have had a 1.2 polo, and occasionally drive my mum's 1.6 zetec s and my dad's 1.8 a3 in the past, however am now looking for the best car for 2.5k that fills the following criteria...
Something doesn't seem right here. You are 17 with with 1 years NCB??? How many months have you actually held a full license, or are we still talking days and weeks???

And you claim you've had 3 cars in the past. Surely the timescales we are talking, if this is even possible it would all be pretty much the present.
I suspect the above is a bit more accurate...

OP, Mx-5s (Mk1/2) are cheap and fun, but not fast; MINI Cooper the same. Clio 172 would be a good shout. Please don't get a Saxo VRS!

Edited by Big Bad Ben on Monday 5th October 12:55

smithyithy

7,258 posts

119 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Classic Mini?

Blanchimont

4,076 posts

123 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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SidewaysSi said:
And £25k will get you an even better one.
It will, but there are limits.

2.5k will get you a tidy E36 328i.
5k will see you into an M3.

If hot hatches are your thing, St170 Focus, a good one is about 2k, a decent Mk2 ST is about 5k.

Golf GTI's and the such start at about 5 too.

So yes, spending more will get you more, but even if the OP doubled his budget he could get a lot more car for his money.

Paradaxos

135 posts

119 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Almost any car is going to be ruinous on insurance for you.

You can find an MX5 for cheap enough that you can eat the insurance costs a bit better.

But bear in mind that the cost is likely to continue to be ruinous for the next 3 years or perhaps longer.

We've all done our time in stboxes, you'll have to be no different if you're unwilling to stump up the insurance money.

PorkRind

3,053 posts

206 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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172/182
ctr

mazdajason

1,113 posts

173 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Ccorolla T sport or Celica T sport.

Frimley111R

15,678 posts

235 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Suzuki Swift?

fivepointnine

708 posts

115 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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I have a stock, higher mileage EP3 Type R I would sell for about that price, does not leak or burn any oil, new clutch, well kept all that good stuff. Not a ragged out chav chariot that the cheaper Type R's tend to be.

But if you don't want a civic I would say a Clio 172 that has had recent belts (within the past year or so, they absolutely have to be replaced every 5 years, aux belts every 2)

Edited by fivepointnine on Monday 5th October 13:45

kayzee

2,819 posts

182 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Axionknight said:
Clio 182 as any EP3 Civics will be really leggy at that price point.
Err... no. I bought my (second) Clio 182 in 2011 for £1,800 and it's been spot on and the best car I've ever owned!

dub16v

1,125 posts

142 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Suzuki Swift Sport?

smithyithy

7,258 posts

119 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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kayzee said:
Err... no. I bought my (second) Clio 182 in 2011 for £1,800 and it's been spot on and the best car I've ever owned!
Think that's what he was saying dude.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Monday 5th October 2015
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Blanchimont said:
SidewaysSi said:
And £25k will get you an even better one.
It will, but there are limits.

2.5k will get you a tidy E36 328i.
5k will see you into an M3.

If hot hatches are your thing, St170 Focus, a good one is about 2k, a decent Mk2 ST is about 5k.

Golf GTI's and the such start at about 5 too.

So yes, spending more will get you more, but even if the OP doubled his budget he could get a lot more car for his money.
Depends what you look for. I think you can get a mint E36 328 Coupe for £2.5k whereas I am not sure what sort of M3 you can get for £5k. Besides, there is also the argument that the 328 is actually the finer driver's car.

For £2.5k, I would go Clio 172/182 rather than a ST170 which is a hell of a lot better than any Ford short of at least a Mk1 Focus RS.

There are great cars at every price point - more expensive cars are not always better. In fact, given a lot of pricier cars will be newer and therefore heavier/more laden with tech, I would argue that equivalent cheaper cars are often better drives.

DMAN5S

Original Poster:

21 posts

111 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
Something doesn't seem right here. You are 17 with with 1 years NCB??? How many months have you actually held a full license, or are we still talking days and weeks???

And you claim you've had 3 cars in the past. Surely the timescales we are talking, if this is even possible it would all be pretty much the present.

In this day and age it likely takes most people a min of 3 months to pass a driving test. So at best you've only been driving under 9 months.

And if you drive mainly around town, have you actually driven more than a few thousand miles in total? Hardly enough for a new driver to really get used to the finer points of driving let alone handling.
For a start i didn't say i had 1 yr ncd, I said that I would very soon (23rd november) Secondly I have done a lot of driving in that time, considering ive only been on the roads for just under a year. Id say roughly 20 000 miles. Read what people say properly in future, before going all Sherlock Holmes on them. Also yes, the majority of my driving is around town, hence why Im looking for a nippy, small car with decent handling.

DMAN5S

Original Poster:

21 posts

111 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Big Bad Ben said:
300bhp/ton said:
DMAN5S said:
Im currently 17 and will have 1 years NCD very shortly, fingers crossed. I have had a 1.2 polo, and occasionally drive my mum's 1.6 zetec s and my dad's 1.8 a3 in the past, however am now looking for the best car for 2.5k that fills the following criteria...
Something doesn't seem right here. You are 17 with with 1 years NCB??? How many months have you actually held a full license, or are we still talking days and weeks???

And you claim you've had 3 cars in the past. Surely the timescales we are talking, if this is even possible it would all be pretty much the present.
I suspect the above is a bit more accurate...

OP, Mx-5s (Mk1/2) are cheap and fun, but not fast; MINI Cooper the same. Clio 172 would be a good shout. Please don't get a Saxo VRS!

Edited by Big Bad Ben on Monday 5th October 12:55
The zetec s was mine, and was written off in no time:/ And the audi is the car I have currently. Mx-5s are still too much insurance! and a 1*2 would bleed me dry insurance wise. Mini cooper is insurable however, although getting a decent one for 2.5k may be challenging, though im sure its possible. Not sure on the reliability of them though? will look into them for sure though smile

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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DMAN5S said:
For a start i didn't say i had 1 yr ncd, I said that I would very soon (23rd november) Secondly I have done a lot of driving in that time, considering ive only been on the roads for just under a year. Id say roughly 20 000 miles. Read what people say properly in future, before going all Sherlock Holmes on them. Also yes, the majority of my driving is around town, hence why Im looking for a nippy, small car with decent handling.
20,000 miles just driving round town. I assume your NCB is from when you started to learn to drive, so the reality is you are claiming you've done 20,000 miles in more like 8 months or under. But maybe you are courier?

DMAN5S

Original Poster:

21 posts

111 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
20,000 miles just driving round town. I assume your NCB is from when you started to learn to drive, so the reality is you are claiming you've done 20,000 miles in more like 8 months or under. But maybe you are courier?
NCB is from when my insurance policy started (btw Ive now turned 18 since I posted the topic). Also im not claiming to have done 20 000 miles, Im telling you that I have done. Regarding whether I'm a courier or not, as a matter of fact I am. If you have any constructive advice id be very appreciative, if not then feel free to continue to accuse me of lying, and id be more than happy to keep explaining to you how you are wrong.

egor110

16,893 posts

204 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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DMAN5S said:
300bhp/ton said:
20,000 miles just driving round town. I assume your NCB is from when you started to learn to drive, so the reality is you are claiming you've done 20,000 miles in more like 8 months or under. But maybe you are courier?
NCB is from when my insurance policy started (btw Ive now turned 18 since I posted the topic). Also im not claiming to have done 20 000 miles, Im telling you that I have done. Regarding whether I'm a courier or not, as a matter of fact I am. If you have any constructive advice id be very appreciative, if not then feel free to continue to accuse me of lying, and id be more than happy to keep explaining to you how you are wrong.
Do insurers take the amount of mileage into consideration?

Normally its how many years you've driven for they ask.

DMAN5S

Original Poster:

21 posts

111 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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egor110 said:
Do insurers take the amount of mileage into consideration?

Normally its how many years you've driven for they ask.
Yeh mileage is irrelevant with insurers, just the amount of time you've driven for that they care about

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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So you are courier in your own car?

Yet you've been looking at MX-5's (only insurance is too high).


Something still seems fishy. I'm not calling you a liar, but I am saying something doesn't add up. How much of your fuel do you have to fund?

Because if you really have done 20,000 miles in 8 months (2500 miles/month). Then at say 35mpg for town driving, that's £3429 so far on fuel. Or approx £430/month on fuel.

egor110

16,893 posts

204 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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300bhp/ton said:
So you are courier in your own car?

Yet you've been looking at MX-5's (only insurance is too high).


Something still seems fishy. I'm not calling you a liar, but I am saying something doesn't add up. How much of your fuel do you have to fund?

Because if you really have done 20,000 miles in 8 months (2500 miles/month). Then at say 35mpg for town driving, that's £3429 so far on fuel. Or approx £430/month on fuel.
Could be a hermes driver delivering parcels?