Which of these would you enjoy driving more as a daily?

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St John Smythe said:

I suggest a 1970s AMC Pacer. Should handle all the above with ease.

So is that your way of saying you have no clue, so you have to come up with a stupid comment instead?

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luckystrike said:

To counter the diesel repmobile argument - why would you waste a decent car stuck in traffic, getting more and more pissed off as 'quirks' turn into major drawbacks when you could have been in a warm comfy music booth that costs half as much to run?

Without wanting to sound argumentative. I simply don't follow this.

The Roadster is more than comfy enough, doesn't have any quirks that annoy me on the commute and averages 52-55mpg (upto 60mpg in the summer).

How would a diesel remobile improve on any of these things?


As for the cars I'm considering. Like I said earlier, I've seen 323i's from £700. I think you'd be hard pushed to find a diesel at this price level.

Now lets say I'd consider a 320d. Chances are you'll buy less 320d than 325i for your money, i.e. it will be higher mileage, lower spec, probably less tidy. And from the drivers seat won't look any different or be more comfy.

In terms of cost, well the 320d should be better on fuel. I don't know what they return, but I'd wager 40-45mpg vs 33-35mpg for the petrol. That doesn't sound like half the running costs to me. And I know I'd enjoy the petrol more so.

luckystrike said:

I'm commuting in an EP3 type R at the moment so it's not that I don't 'get' having something half-special for the daily slog, but it replaced a mk3 mondeo. I couldn't honestly say that the slip road VTEC moments are outweighing the comfort and refinement while sat in queues of traffic. Equivalent, possibly, but there's no way I'd say I've improved - it's just different.

Half my journey is good hooning roads. So a fun car gets used for fun every journey at some point.

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St John Smythe said:

Have you driven one?

Have you?

Lets face it, you are avoiding my sensible questions and acting the politician and only responding by asking stupid questions.

When you answer my sensible questions, I'll consider answering your stupid ones.

[300bhp/ton]

Looks like the BMW has a 63 litre tank, this would definitely be a bonus week in, week out. Have driven e46's before, including a 323i, so I have a good gauge what they are like.

Have only sat in an R53, going to see if I can find one local to have a test drive in.

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TroubledSoul said:

rohrl said:

I don't presume to answer for 300 but an Audi Allroad really is a very different beast from a Land Rover and wouldn't be much use on an off-road trial.

Fair enough, I was under the impression you could raise the suspension to a decent level so it could do both.

rohl is correct.

I trial mostly with an ALRC affiliated club, regulated by the MSA. The ALRC is the Association of Land Rover Clubs, so it has to be a Land Rover to be part of it.

Both my father and uncle are founding members of our local club and I've been in and around Land Rover's and off roading for almost all my life. Certainly since the age of 7.

I'm also club scrutineer for our local club and I setup and run events (Clark of the Course) as well as compete.


This is the sort of off roading I do:








I don't compete in the Range Rover, but it gets used properly off road from time to time too

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@luckystrike

I think we must have crossed wires or something. I'm certainly not disagreeing with you, just feel we are having two different conversations. But I'll take blame for it.


As for hooning, yes most journeys, but not the entire journey. Half of it isn't hooning roads.


There is no problem with my current car -- only that it needs some TLC and I'd like to take it off to road to do it. Which means I need something to use while I do this. And as the opportunity is presenting itself, I'd like to use it to drive a car I've not owned or driven before, as there are simply so many brilliant cars out there and I'd like to sample as many as I can within reason.

Also having used my current car for over 5 years and 75,000 miles I fancy a bit of a change, albeit a temporary one. I fully intend to go back to using it, after I'd done some bits to it.

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CorvetteConvert said:

I agree. I run too many vehicles really, 5 at present, but i like to think they are all pretty good cars/bike.

So how much money have you spent buying these then:

Ford Mondeo Titanium 240

Chevrolet Z06 7011cc LS7

Ducati Panigale 1299

Mercedes SL55 AMG

Caterham R 500 Superlight


That looks like a fair chunk of money to me. It would seem you are letting your bank balance rule your arrogance here.

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CorvetteConvert said:

300bhp, could you reply to my question

I have, and despite you prolifically posting in other topics all day, you seem to have avoided this one, since I answered you.

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St John Smythe said:

Not being funny 300 but isn't he doing the exact same thing as you in running a fleet of cars (all be it on a bigger budget) ?

Which I have no problem with. I do have a problem with them calling my cars rubbish, simply because I working with a smaller budget. In other language you might call them a bit of a c*ck.

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Gaz. said:

How come you haven't considered a MR2 Turbo? Same budget as a Mini Cooper S, just as thirsty/possibly a bit better and a hell of a lot of fun too.

No reason for excluding it, only that the n/a one is cheaper, more available and would be better on fuel. And in all honesty would be fast enough for the intended use.

I think with a turbo one, the risk is too high that I'd want to fiddle with it. A risk that's true of a Cooper S though.

Gaz. said:

Regarding the T-bird, just scrap it, £80 is £80 and your neighbours would be pleased (I say this as a neighbour of a serial car collector, not to be narky).

It may yet come to pass that this might happen. But it's not a problem at the moment, it's parked up out of the way in my uncles farm, so not bothering anyone.

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egor110 said:

As you already have the Subaru why not use that whilst the smarts having its work done?

The Subaru won't cost you anything as you already own it, fuel won't be too horrendous and you know the cars reliable, whereas a few grand on a mini or mr2 could buy a heap of trouble.

You are perfectly right of course. But I think it's an addiction....

[300bhp/ton]

white_goodman said:

Have you actually bought anything yet 300?

Not yet. Had a couple of sneaky bids, but no success on those.

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CorvetteConvert said:

300bhp. I am only just catching up with all your posts on this thread.
I am tempted to simply say...that i feel your pain, get well soon.
But i will inform you that far from being a rich ferker as you suggested (i am worth a tenth as much as my neighbour, for example), i am 'comfortable' through hard work and also taking risks in the London property market over the last 20 years. Yes i have done okay for myself and my family and because of that i am a big donator to charity every month and have been for many years.
Anyway, i still wouldn't touch most of your cars with a barge pole and i still cannot fathom (like so many others have said) how you can tax and service and insure and keep all those cars yet worry about mpg going to work and back.
You must spend a fair few bob on spades as well, the amount of holes you dig for yourself on here!!!
Oh alright, i will say it, i feel your pain!
:-)

Insurance is easy -- trade policy. As I do/have bought and sold cars over the years.
Tax - direct debit makes it easy. But all the cars are fairly cost effective in tax terms. All together they cost less a year to tax than a new V8 something would.
Serving I tend to do myself. And have a mate who runs a workshop. Majority of servicing is checking + Oil & Filter change. So it's not really that pricey when you get down to it. For example, and oil filter for the Camaro is about £6, £20'ish for oil and air filter for about £12. And about 30 mins of my time.

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CorvetteConvert said:

Absolutely, in fairness that is a good car and fun to drive. I cannot see how mpg can be an issue when you spend many thousands a year on tax and insurance.

As I've just replied. I don't.

I'm not going to disclose figures. But I insure all my cars for less money than insuring two cars on a normal or multi car policy.

All of my cars are pre 2001, so the old car tax system. All apart from the Roadster, which is on the new system, but in a low category.

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St John Smythe said:

Haven't we all but I guess you're not actually a trader?

If I buy and sell, then yes I am from an insurance point of view. Or though there is no "official" standard and you don't have to prove anything anyhow.

I admit I don't visit the BCA as often these days, doesn't mean that cars don't get sold and bought throughout the year. Just not ones I happen to add to my profile. But do have a nice day

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lostkiwi said:

Let me know if you want a hand with this - I've a bit of experience pulling the box out of Roadsters and can usually get them out in 2 hours so a clutch in a day is very doable as its under 5 hours to refit. As you have to remove all the rear suspension it would fit in the time frame. Front end is a couple of hours tops depending what's needed. Demon Tweeks are doing some deals of Bilstein B4s for Roadsters at the moment - £115 for a full set of 4.
Must be my masochistic side but I quite like working on Roadsters (or maybe its a throwback to when I used to work on original Minis....)

That's very kind of you and I may well take you up on this. Trying to make some time for it first and want to get my Land Rover back to an assembled state, so taking most of my freetime at present.

The rolling chassis is pretty much there. Just need to finish off the suspension mounts, then it's body on and finish the repairs on that, then engine back in.

[300bhp/ton]

St John Smythe said:

Only asking!

If that were me I wouldn't mention it on a public forum that's all.

I don't normally. But since I'm not doing anything illegal, immoral or even slightly dodgy, it doesn't really matter.

Edited by 300bhp/ton on Tuesday 27th October 15:32

[300bhp/ton]

egor110 said:

How many cars can you sell a year before you become a trader and have to give warranties?

You don't have to give warranties at all. However like all things, trade sales are covered under SOGA.

I/we have tended to stick to the lower end of the market, e.g shedding/bangernomics.

So warranties are really a prime concern.

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PGNCerbera said:

300bhp/ton said:

You don't have to give warranties at all.

So warranties are really a prime concern.

please elaborate?

No.

Such things have been covered a million times in GG or Speed, plod & the law forums. And even more across the web.

Do a search, it's not rocket science.

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PGNCerbera said:

Helpful.

Another question if I may....when was the last time you sold a vehicle as a 'trade' sale and what was it?

Corsa, couple of weeks ago.

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PGNCerbera said:

Helpful.

Well you frequent GG enough, that I'm sure you know, as it has been typed and talked about a lot.

But it's as lostwiki said. There is no obligation to offer any kind of warranty. In fact most traders don't, only larger ones, selling newer cars will. And often they sell 3rd party warranties, as the cost of covering them would be too great themselves.

Most 3rd party warranties will only cover certain types of cars and not when they reach a certain age, so warranting a 10-20 year old shed is not viable for the most part.


As a seller you have responsibilities. That the item, aka a car in this instance should be fairly and where possible as accurately described as possible.

You obviously can't deliberately mislead or without info.

The rest is covered by SOGA under "reasonable" and fit for purpose vs cost.