RE: VW Golf R Revo Technik: Driven
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£44k for a Golf?
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
BlimeyCharlie said:
£44k for a Golf?
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
Maybe the golf buyers want the similar performance but need a boot and rear seats? Servicing costs likely to be lower too over long term ownershipYou could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
Is it just me or does this article read like an advert for Revo?
I came across a Golf R on a trackday at Bedford recently. Unfortunately the yob behind the wheel had no idea how to drive and spent the entire day going flat out down the straights then washing out on every corner and taking the worst "lines" I've ever seen. Then to top it off he didn't slow down after a big accident. The guy thought he was a hero and overtook about 10 cars under red flag at full speed and then missed the back of the car I was driving by about 6 inches while totally out of control of his vehicle. Anyway rant over!
So yeah, I now associate Golf R's with people like that.
I came across a Golf R on a trackday at Bedford recently. Unfortunately the yob behind the wheel had no idea how to drive and spent the entire day going flat out down the straights then washing out on every corner and taking the worst "lines" I've ever seen. Then to top it off he didn't slow down after a big accident. The guy thought he was a hero and overtook about 10 cars under red flag at full speed and then missed the back of the car I was driving by about 6 inches while totally out of control of his vehicle. Anyway rant over!
So yeah, I now associate Golf R's with people like that.
BlimeyCharlie said:
£44k for a Golf?
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
The running costs of a 911 Turbo would be monumentally more expensive than a Golf R.
MrBarry123 said:
BlimeyCharlie said:
£44k for a Golf?
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
The running costs of a 911 Turbo would be monumentally more expensive than a Golf R.
rtz62 said:
MrBarry123 said:
BlimeyCharlie said:
£44k for a Golf?
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
The running costs of a 911 Turbo would be monumentally more expensive than a Golf R.
Either i'm getting old and boring or i'm losing my car enthusiast card but i just don't get this.
It wasn't long ago this was super car territory, performance at a price and associated with big wheels, spoilers and more than 6 cylinders etc now you can get it in a hatchback. This performance is just useless on the roads so where does it leave you as a track day toy (far better alternatives) or pub bragging rights.
This obsession with numbers is getting rather boring and predictable and surely would make the car actually more frustrating and annoying to drive knowing that 3/10th's is enough unless of course your willing to risk the four NIP's.
It wasn't long ago this was super car territory, performance at a price and associated with big wheels, spoilers and more than 6 cylinders etc now you can get it in a hatchback. This performance is just useless on the roads so where does it leave you as a track day toy (far better alternatives) or pub bragging rights.
This obsession with numbers is getting rather boring and predictable and surely would make the car actually more frustrating and annoying to drive knowing that 3/10th's is enough unless of course your willing to risk the four NIP's.
Edited by Madkat on Wednesday 7th October 12:37
I don't know what the DSG boxes are supposed to be rated to, but people are putting north of 700bhp through them in TT RS and the like which I think are fundamentally the same box. The manuals can take a fair degree of punishment (much more than 500bhp in Haldex cars) as long as the clutch is uprated.
As for the longevity of the engine itself, I know of a few people who have run Stage 3 kits on the earlier EA113 engine on standard internals. That's about 415bhp and 380lb ft. Apparently the EA888 pistons are good for 5-600bhp. I'm not sure what the rods are up to, but I think I'm right in saying they differ from the lower-spec engines anyway.
Stock injectors were good for stage 3 EA113 cars (albeit at the limits of their capability), I don't know about the EA888 though I imagine REVO have actually tested this kind of stuff. Both K03 and K04 turbo EA113s need uprated high pressure fuel pumps for stage 3 but again, I don't know about the EA888.
As for the longevity of the engine itself, I know of a few people who have run Stage 3 kits on the earlier EA113 engine on standard internals. That's about 415bhp and 380lb ft. Apparently the EA888 pistons are good for 5-600bhp. I'm not sure what the rods are up to, but I think I'm right in saying they differ from the lower-spec engines anyway.
Stock injectors were good for stage 3 EA113 cars (albeit at the limits of their capability), I don't know about the EA888 though I imagine REVO have actually tested this kind of stuff. Both K03 and K04 turbo EA113s need uprated high pressure fuel pumps for stage 3 but again, I don't know about the EA888.
Edited by ManOpener on Wednesday 7th October 13:09
BlimeyCharlie said:
£44k for a Golf?
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
I'll let you know in Feb when mine turns up. Bit difficult to get 4 people in a caged 911.You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less, and not have to explain to pub bores/chaps in baseball caps/McDonalds staff/Gary in Sales about how fast your Golf is. But then again that is all part of the appeal.
Who wants a 911 Turbo engineered to go fast from the factory when you can have a Sales Rep Grenade Limited Edition Golf?
"Well Wicked Mate".
BlimeyCharlie said:
£44k for a Golf?
You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less,
Can I have a link to these brand new & warrantied 911 turbos for £45k!?You could get a decent 911 Turbo for the same or less,
Thought not, so don't be prat and start comparing new and old.
I wonder if VW had any idea how much the Golf R would divide opinion? I find it rather amusing how hard some people try to hate them and keep insisting it's only a Golf or compare them to cars that cost twice as much or those that are 10 years older in the case of Evos/Imprezas.
From my experience of Revo their maps can be quite aggressive to give the impression they are giving more bang for your buck when other mappers can give better mid power without the spikiness - torque spikes are often what damages engines.
RoverP6B said:
So, poor drivetrain longevity and addressing the one way in which the Golf R really wasn't exactly deficient. RIGHT. How about they rip the four-pot out and replace it with a VR6? Give it a proper rear-bias 4WD system? Hydraulic steering?
So, an entirely new drivetrain then? Sounds like a plan aka_kerrly said:
Can I have a link to these brand new & warrantied 911 turbos for £45k!?
What warranty will these Revo cars have? Any approved used Porsche comes with 2 years of warranty. I agree that comparing old and new is pointless but your argument doesn't really stand when you mention warranty.
popeyewhite said:
Me neither. At the end of the day it's still a VW Golf.
At the end of the day all cars are just cars. I quite like mine - but I've owned cars I've loved more. Then again I drove the family for two hours the other day and it did the job splendidly. I'd probably quite like a Nismo Qashqai if such a thing existed in fact.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff