No police on the roads.....
Discussion
La Liga said:
Policing the roads was eroded before the spending cuts. With Labour, it was a focus upon numerical targets around reductions and detections in crime areas like burglary, assaults and theft from motor vehicles. This resulted in traffic officer numbers being reduced to reallocate elsewhere. It's not just the officer, it's the training, equipment and cars that are expensive.
Clearly that is compounded now by the spending cuts. If you're making strategic decisions and are looking at the bigger picture, deaths on the roads have been reducing pretty much since records began, on a year-on-year basis. It'll probably take us to hit the saturation point and see this trend reversing before it becomes a sufficient risk / issue.
Forces are now merging their traffic with functions like firearms and other centralised areas to achieve greater savings.
This illustrates the point the numbers were being reduced prior to the spending cuts.
Does that say in 2003 100% of police officers were traffic police? Clearly that is compounded now by the spending cuts. If you're making strategic decisions and are looking at the bigger picture, deaths on the roads have been reducing pretty much since records began, on a year-on-year basis. It'll probably take us to hit the saturation point and see this trend reversing before it becomes a sufficient risk / issue.
Forces are now merging their traffic with functions like firearms and other centralised areas to achieve greater savings.
This illustrates the point the numbers were being reduced prior to the spending cuts.
ETA Guess it may be attempting to illustrate traffic police has declined by 30% where overall police numbers had increased slightly but since dropped back to 2003 levels?
Edited by LordGrover on Wednesday 7th October 08:45
They are about on the M74 a lot. 3 points and a fine just over a month ago just after Abington services they were hiding up the on slip road completely out of view and got me as I drove away from them with the speed gun out of the window.
I do notice they tend to go through phases where you see them frequently for loads one week and then the next week you don't. I always thought they had specific campaigns like an anti speeding week/safety week etc.
I do notice they tend to go through phases where you see them frequently for loads one week and then the next week you don't. I always thought they had specific campaigns like an anti speeding week/safety week etc.
LordGrover said:
La Liga said:
Policing the roads was eroded before the spending cuts. With Labour, it was a focus upon numerical targets around reductions and detections in crime areas like burglary, assaults and theft from motor vehicles. This resulted in traffic officer numbers being reduced to reallocate elsewhere. It's not just the officer, it's the training, equipment and cars that are expensive.
Clearly that is compounded now by the spending cuts. If you're making strategic decisions and are looking at the bigger picture, deaths on the roads have been reducing pretty much since records began, on a year-on-year basis. It'll probably take us to hit the saturation point and see this trend reversing before it becomes a sufficient risk / issue.
Forces are now merging their traffic with functions like firearms and other centralised areas to achieve greater savings.
This illustrates the point the numbers were being reduced prior to the spending cuts.
Does that say in 2003 100% of police officers were traffic police? Clearly that is compounded now by the spending cuts. If you're making strategic decisions and are looking at the bigger picture, deaths on the roads have been reducing pretty much since records began, on a year-on-year basis. It'll probably take us to hit the saturation point and see this trend reversing before it becomes a sufficient risk / issue.
Forces are now merging their traffic with functions like firearms and other centralised areas to achieve greater savings.
This illustrates the point the numbers were being reduced prior to the spending cuts.
ETA Guess it may be attempting to illustrate traffic police has declined by 30% where overall police numbers had increased slightly but since dropped back to 2003 levels?
It's taking the numbers of traffic police and overall police at 2003 and placing their respective, and individual numbers at 100%. As we go across the X axis, the % change is relative to where both numbers start out in 2003.
So what it shows, for example, is that in in 2009 we had 6% (106%) more police officers overall compared to 2003, but we had 17% (100-83) fewer traffic officers compared to 2003.
Just driven from Yorkshire to Essex, I saw;
2 x motorway patrol cars
2 x panda car
2 x video vans
2 x motor cycle
Those spots were spread throughout the journey, I generally always see police vehicles on most journeys I make...
I'll add on the return journey I saw another 2 x motorway patrols and 2 unmarked cars.
Either they are all following/after me or people aren't very observant!
2 x motorway patrol cars
2 x panda car
2 x video vans
2 x motor cycle
Those spots were spread throughout the journey, I generally always see police vehicles on most journeys I make...
I'll add on the return journey I saw another 2 x motorway patrols and 2 unmarked cars.
Either they are all following/after me or people aren't very observant!
Edited by Wills2 on Wednesday 7th October 18:52
I saw a police car going into our police station last month, or maybe it was August.
They're not there often: opening times - note closed for lunch.
They're not there often: opening times - note closed for lunch.
Police spending ring fenced ? I don't think so - at least not until each force stops being so territorial about its kit and systems. In a previous life I did a lot of legal work for the police and was staggered to learn each force had its own style of uniform (they all look the same to me but oh no-whole offices were devoted to commissioning bespoke trousers with subtly different truncheon gussets etc). Worse still I was amazed to find out that between neighbouring forces they7 don't even use the same calibre guns etc etc. Anything to prevent the erosion of little empires by having a national force .....
It was. I was involved in police legals between early 90s and 2010ish - so are we saying that all vehicles , weapons, uniforms and IT are now standard? ISTR the procurement strategy still gave a wide choice to forces but enabled them to call off offers which had been centrally procured
The procurement and tendering has got better as well as the more obvious economies of scale. This about vehicles, for example: http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/2010/10/29/police-...
La Liga said:
Policing the roads was eroded before the spending cuts. With Labour, it was a focus upon numerical targets around reductions and detections in crime areas like burglary, assaults and theft from motor vehicles. This resulted in traffic officer numbers being reduced to reallocate elsewhere. It's not just the officer, it's the training, equipment and cars that are expensive.
Clearly that is compounded now by the spending cuts. If you're making strategic decisions and are looking at the bigger picture, deaths on the roads have been reducing pretty much since records began, on a year-on-year basis. It'll probably take us to hit the saturation point and see this trend reversing before it becomes a sufficient risk / issue.
Forces are now merging their traffic with functions like firearms and other centralised areas to achieve greater savings.
. . the numbers were being reduced prior to the spending cuts.
Totally agree. I used to drive 50,000 miles a year in the 2000's and I noticed a marked reduction in visible police cars over time under labour. The understanding on here at the time was that they were too snowed under with paperwork to get out on the road.Clearly that is compounded now by the spending cuts. If you're making strategic decisions and are looking at the bigger picture, deaths on the roads have been reducing pretty much since records began, on a year-on-year basis. It'll probably take us to hit the saturation point and see this trend reversing before it becomes a sufficient risk / issue.
Forces are now merging their traffic with functions like firearms and other centralised areas to achieve greater savings.
. . the numbers were being reduced prior to the spending cuts.
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