Is it legal to remove the windscreen and surround?

Is it legal to remove the windscreen and surround?

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HustleRussell

24,700 posts

160 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Meathead316 said:
no it wont look horrendous when finished
It will drive horrendous though.

carl_w

9,181 posts

258 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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HustleRussell said:
It will drive horrendous though.
Like all widened cars do, right?



Meathead316

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60 posts

133 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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I emailed IVS... No reply as of yet O_o

Would an MOT garage be able to advise?

I see there are two z3 body types, normal and wide body... Problem solved on that count!

So its just the windscreen issue getting in the way now, once (if...) thats cleared up then this project will be a go!

Someone mentioned basing it on a space frame kit car. Good idea, one ive already thought of, but a much more exoensive donor car so not really viable (unless someone can show me a road legal kit car for sale for under £2k...)

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

123 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Someone stick the picture up of the car Homer Simpson designed. !

andyps

7,817 posts

282 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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carl_w said:
HustleRussell said:
It will drive horrendous though.
Like all widened cars do, right?


Of those, the first one was a factory approved conversion so may well have had different geometry and bearings (I don't know the answer to whether that was true). The second doesn't improve the steering feel and response in my view - there is a reason that racing Minis don't tend to have that much offset. The third is a totally different car to the standard R5.

Not particularly realistic comparison.

davidJK

45 posts

162 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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do you have any sketches of what you hope this to look like? I would be very interested to see

Fastdruid

8,643 posts

152 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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davidJK said:
do you have any sketches of what you hope this to look like? I would be very interested to see


Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

144 months

Thursday 8th October 2015
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Zerotonine said:
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Durzel said:
LankyLegoHead said:

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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carl_w said:
Like all widened cars do, right?
Yes, minis with wheels/tyres that wide tend to be horrendous to drive compared to ones with the original width 10" and 12" wheels/tyres. Tramlining, torque steer and kickback through the steering is the order of the day.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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carl_w said:
Like all widened cars do, right?
No, but the op is on about 6" either side!!! And if I was a betting man, I'd say it's more this sort of thing, than the pics you posted.




bcadou

269 posts

180 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Gilhooligan said:
Zerotonine said:
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Dannbodge

2,165 posts

121 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Meathead316 said:
I emailed IVS... No reply as of yet O_o

Would an MOT garage be able to advise?

I see there are two z3 body types, normal and wide body... Problem solved on that count!

So its just the windscreen issue getting in the way now, once (if...) thats cleared up then this project will be a go!

Someone mentioned basing it on a space frame kit car. Good idea, one ive already thought of, but a much more exoensive donor car so not really viable (unless someone can show me a road legal kit car for sale for under £2k...)
The "wide body" Z3s are the ///M versions.

HustleRussell

24,700 posts

160 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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carl_w said:
HustleRussell said:
It will drive horrendous though.
Like all widened cars do, right?


Of course, all of thos cars known for their boggo suspension with 6" wheel spacers on each wheel rolleyes

33q

1,555 posts

123 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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DrDeAtH said:
J4CKO said:
Are you called Leepu in real life ?
Definitely this.....
Or worse ....Bernie

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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Wow. Even though I'm a fellow 'newbie', some of the responses here seem incredibly rude. I'm just glad that my first threads weren't questions like this.

Surely as car enthusiasts we should agree that variety is the spice of life? We don't all like Mazda MX5s, we don't all like MR2s being reshelled as 'Ferraris', and we don't all like the stuff that Leepu and his bald mate used to build. However, it all feels a bit school playground (and a touch unnecessary) to attempt to ridicule someone who came here looking for answers, particularly when he's trying to do something himself that is a bit different.

To the OP, I would perhaps try a specialist 'kit car' forum for advice, or perhaps there's a sub-forum here that might attract a better quality of reply.

I think I'll steer clear of General Gassing in future.

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Friday 9th October 2015
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jimi said:
Z3 already have roll hoops behind the seats.

Removing the windscreen will make it incredibly flexible - in a bad way!
I can't see those being roll hoops, much more likely the more common 'style' hoops. The rule of thumb and motorsport rule is that the hoop or roll over bar needs to be 6" above head height to allow for movement of your body in a roll. Unless this lady is a giant that clearance is nowhere near enough http://prettycarz.com/odin/BMW%20Z3/bmw-z3-03.html

As for the flexibility, the car will be affected but, as others have mentioned, being a convertible most of the stiffness there will be from the bulkhead.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Sunday 11th October 2015
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