RE: Toyota S-FR concept for Tokyo
Discussion
GTEYE said:
Along with the Honda S660, that's the second car in a week to make the MX-5 look a bit lardy.
Looks really promising.
Pictures are obviously deceiving then, the ND MX5 is 8cm shorter, 4cm wider and 10cm lower.Looks really promising.
sideways sid said:
Do those dimensions bring it within the Kei Car class?
If so, presumably, it will have a <660cc engine with <64bhp
Not even close, it's 60cm too long and 21cm too wide.If so, presumably, it will have a <660cc engine with <64bhp
There's a rumour circulating that they're aiming for 980kg with a 1.5 litre 130hp engine.
Great idea, poor execution.
Like the GT86 then...and by that I mean, remind yourselves of the concept GT86, and ask yourself why did the final design have to be so badly fiddled with. I mean it's ok in as much the general profile/idea has survived, but the final execution was a dated look as soon as it was released...
I hold zero hope for the S-FR
Like the GT86 then...and by that I mean, remind yourselves of the concept GT86, and ask yourself why did the final design have to be so badly fiddled with. I mean it's ok in as much the general profile/idea has survived, but the final execution was a dated look as soon as it was released...
I hold zero hope for the S-FR
Apart from that front grill, doesn't look too bad. Just a shame a bit more thought wasn't given to the front bumper; perhaps just something to break up that grill would help.
Not trying to sound boastful or say your opinion is worth any less merit, but I've seen a couple of other people state the same thing on these forums like it's gospel truth; yet I'd say that if complete strangers are going out of their way to compliment the car, then it can't be that dated or ugly.
Quickmoose said:
Great idea, poor execution.
Like the GT86 then...and by that I mean, remind yourselves of the concept GT86, and ask yourself why did the final design have to be so badly fiddled with. I mean it's ok in as much the general profile/idea has survived, but the final execution was a dated look as soon as it was released...
Looks are subjective, but I'd suggest you might be in the minority with that opinion - at least outside of these forums. Obviously I'm biased but I think the GT86 looks cracking and it's one of the reasons I was drawn to it in the first place. But I've never had a car which has experienced such positive opinion on it's looks, not just from friends and family, but from complete strangers. I'm quite often approached at petrol stations with people commenting on how good the car looks and it seems to get a lot of positive attention in traffic too.Like the GT86 then...and by that I mean, remind yourselves of the concept GT86, and ask yourself why did the final design have to be so badly fiddled with. I mean it's ok in as much the general profile/idea has survived, but the final execution was a dated look as soon as it was released...
Not trying to sound boastful or say your opinion is worth any less merit, but I've seen a couple of other people state the same thing on these forums like it's gospel truth; yet I'd say that if complete strangers are going out of their way to compliment the car, then it can't be that dated or ugly.
xRIEx said:
It looks like they want to appeal to the Fiat 500/Vauxhall Adam crowd, but in a 'cheeky sports car' way.
No thanks. FT-1 please.
It wouldn't be a bad marketing move. I reckon there's a decent market for people who want a small, lightweight "city" car but aren't particularly interested in the profile or looks of modern hatchbacks.No thanks. FT-1 please.
Also, FT-1...hnnnggg. I'm not sure that will ever see production though, I thought it was pretty much just a concept (unless you know otherwise?).
Conscript said:
Apart from that front grill, doesn't look too bad. Just a shame a bit more thought wasn't given to the front bumper; perhaps just something to break up that grill would help.
Not trying to sound boastful or say your opinion is worth any less merit, but I've seen a couple of other people state the same thing on these forums like it's gospel truth; yet I'd say that if complete strangers are going out of their way to compliment the car, then it can't be that dated or ugly.
Hehe. See my post a few years ago: click.Quickmoose said:
Great idea, poor execution.
Like the GT86 then...and by that I mean, remind yourselves of the concept GT86, and ask yourself why did the final design have to be so badly fiddled with. I mean it's ok in as much the general profile/idea has survived, but the final execution was a dated look as soon as it was released...
Looks are subjective, but I'd suggest you might be in the minority with that opinion - at least outside of these forums. Obviously I'm biased but I think the GT86 looks cracking and it's one of the reasons I was drawn to it in the first place. But I've never had a car which has experienced such positive opinion on it's looks, not just from friends and family, but from complete strangers. I'm quite often approached at petrol stations with people commenting on how good the car looks and it seems to get a lot of positive attention in traffic too.Like the GT86 then...and by that I mean, remind yourselves of the concept GT86, and ask yourself why did the final design have to be so badly fiddled with. I mean it's ok in as much the general profile/idea has survived, but the final execution was a dated look as soon as it was released...
Not trying to sound boastful or say your opinion is worth any less merit, but I've seen a couple of other people state the same thing on these forums like it's gospel truth; yet I'd say that if complete strangers are going out of their way to compliment the car, then it can't be that dated or ugly.
In the main picture I think it looks pretty smart but from full-side on not so much, a bit too much behind the rear wheels IMO (possibly as a result of saftey regs?). For some reason I don't mind Jap cars looking a bit kooky, though. If it were a Euro car then it would seem a bit contrived - wilfully wacky - but with the Japs you know that they genuinely thought it looked good, which I think is brilliantly bonkers.
And as an aside, anyone who thinks a GT86 is not a good looking car must be wired fundamentally different to me, in the flesh they're fantastic looking things.
And as an aside, anyone who thinks a GT86 is not a good looking car must be wired fundamentally different to me, in the flesh they're fantastic looking things.
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