Castrol Nexcel...surely just snake oil...

Castrol Nexcel...surely just snake oil...

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wack

2,103 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th October 2015
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TheEnd said:
the service guy might actually do other stuff as well, so 18.5 mins is the maximum possible time saving assuming he stands there transfixed by the draining oil.
The must do on maseratis , a guy was quoted £850 to service a quattroporte at an independent , that was 8 hours labour.

I still don't know what on earth they can be doing for 8 hours because there's no cambelt so watching the oil drain out until it stops dripping is a good call

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Sunday 11th October 2015
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All that jazz said:
ianrb said:
Or maybe the "oil box" would have a chip in it which talks to the EMU, so oil changes could then only be carried out by dealers!
No "maybe" about it imho.
Good point, I didn't think of that, but I bet Castrol already have.

They'd say it records the mileage and passes it on to the cluster to let you know when the oil is due for a change, forgetting that the cluster is the one with the mileage to start off with.

Use a copy oil and filter unit and your service light will remain on the dash.

Vaud

50,644 posts

156 months

Sunday 11th October 2015
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Ahh - the modern day printer cartridge!

Weirdhead

87 posts

106 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
OT but if that's normal then you're over tightening them.

Screwdrivers are dangerous territory. It's not uncommon to tear the filter apart leaving you half a filter still overtightened on to the filter housing and no simple means of getting it off - then you're knackered.

With a smear of oil on the seal of a new filter and single hand tightened on, it will come off again with 2 hands to unscrew it or a chain wrench at worst. smile
Mole grips or pump pliers. You must have missed the heathen part of the mechanics corse!

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

189 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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This was amazing when I had a filter which had rusted itself to the block (KIA Picanto)



However I had to bend the exhaust heat shield right out of the way to get enough access.

These are also a good idea -



The old chain / belt tools are OK in principle, but in years of servicing my own cars I've never managed to use one successfully, that couldn't have already been removed by hand.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

221 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I'd be all for a 90 second oil change. Jacking the car up, removing the under plastics, the filter and the oil becomes a ball after a while, especially during the colder / wetter months.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Vaud said:
Ahh - the modern day printer cartridge!
Exactly what I was thinking. No doubt a considerable after-market will open up for refilling/chipping the oil 'cartridges' as well.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
I'd be all for a 90 second oil change. Jacking the car up, removing the under plastics, the filter and the oil becomes a ball after a while, especially during the colder / wetter months.
I believe most main dealers use oil suckers through the dipstick these days, purely because it's so much easier to do.

Just ram the catheter down there, and you can get on with the pollen filters, any engine bay bits, and I'm sure a lot of manufacturers are moving towards having easier to access oil filters too.

Vizsla

923 posts

125 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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jamieduff1981 said:
Screwdrivers are dangerous territory. It's not uncommon to tear the filter apart leaving you half a filter still overtightened on to the filter housing and no simple means of getting it off - then you're knackered.
Been there, done that. MGB, screwdriver shredded the filter, had to unbolt the housing from the block with filter remnant still attached, clumsily then tried to remove debris of filter whilst holding above my legs in a squatting position (I know, I was young), mole grip slipped and I hacked a large gash in my thigh. Still have the scar. [/dork]

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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Vizsla said:
Been there, done that. MGB, screwdriver shredded the filter, had to unbolt the housing from the block with filter remnant still attached, clumsily then tried to remove debris of filter whilst holding above my legs in a squatting position (I know, I was young), mole grip slipped and I hacked a large gash in my thigh. Still have the scar. [/dork]
Why do we do these things? I have a scar on my leg from sitting hacking at something with a stanley knife while it was in my lap rather than walking two metres over to a workbench where I could have done it safely and comfortably...

loose cannon

6,030 posts

242 months

Tuesday 13th October 2015
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carl_w said:
To me, these make a lot of sense and I don't understand why we don't see more of them
Leyland daf drops have those filters, the water gets under that top nut and it goes rusty and pings off its only spot welded
On so not much better tbh seized filters are the least of your worries if your a mechanic