Is it time to have an age limit for driving on the road?

Is it time to have an age limit for driving on the road?

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kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Johnnytheboy said:
If you banned people from driving until they were 25, would 30 yr old drivers be worse than they are now?
The answer is undoubtedly "yes"; however, they wouldn't be as bad as 22 year-olds are now. The low average standard of driving amongst young people is a result of both lack of experience and immaturity.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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CorvetteConvert said:
I know what my father in law drives like, now he is 89. He was a driver in the forces and a very good one indeed, driving everything from wagon and drags to jeeps to chauffeur cars. But i have been out with him a few times recently and i am afraid like most people his age, he is hesitant, he doesn't see like he used to, or hear the same, so he waits forever for a gap big enough to allow 6 cars out, never mind him and he is very apt to forgetting to signal, etc.
For my sins i think something should be done
So what have you done to persuade your father to stop driving? Or have you just confiscated his keys, cancelled his insurance, and sent his licence back to DVLA without his consent?

Oh, what's that? He's still driving? Something must be done! Stop him!

At which of your future birthdays will you be voluntarily ceasing to drive, regardless of faculties or skill?

Vaud

50,557 posts

156 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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yonex said:
Age limit, no. Mandatory driving test every five years for everyone, yes. But since when have the Police and our ruling parties been interested in safety?
This ^^^^

Maybe every ten years to 60, then every 5 years, then every 2 years after 80.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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You have to be careful of using one example to tar everyone with the same brush

I posted this yesterday but lesser news
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
frown

The question here is to look at where he got onto the motorway and ask if the junction has a dubious layout. Weve already seen where authorities are removing painted on the road turn right arrows before roundabouts to try to prevent the obvious.

croyde

22,945 posts

231 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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One thing you can say about old drivers. It's highly unlikely they'd cause an accident by texting.

Lost count of the amount of near misses last week because drivers were looking down at their phones, including the tt transit driver on the wrong side of the road that I nearly had a head on with.

Good job I swerved onto the pavement you brainless dildo.

VX Foxy

3,962 posts

244 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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yonex said:
Age limit, no. Mandatory driving test every five years for everyone, yes. But since when have the Police and our ruling parties been interested in safety?
Agreed. And the driving test should be made much more difficult.

gangzoom

6,304 posts

216 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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This chap is 85 in a few weeks....Who here wants to be the one to approach him and tell him he shouldn't be going anywhere near cars wink

LankyLegoHead

749 posts

133 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I think more regular re-testing is needed. Whilst statistics may not favour me as a younger driver (I'm 23), I already have Sky high insurance to put me off driving. Not to mention the fact I can't even rent a car without paying silly money too!

The problem is, whilst I passed my test on modern roads, they didn't. How can their driver training still be applicable if they don't even understand how a motorway works? I totally understand it's only the "few" that do this. But you only have to get stuck behind an elderly driver to see some of their dangerous habits. It's not just that either, its the medical side of things.

And before anyone says it, I'm not siding with Younger drivers. 99% of them are tts too. But as said, there's already so much against us to start with (Expensive, increasingly difficult testing. Expensive cars, expensive insurance).

glasgowrob

3,245 posts

122 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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not just old drivers,

nearly got clipped by a taxi driver in his 40s today at Glasgow airport going the wrong way round the one way system,


to get to the point he had, he had passed 2 sets of no entry markers and driven over 3 sets of arrows pointing against the direction he was heading,


should we ban those cab driving menaces from the road too?



smithyithy

7,258 posts

119 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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We already treat the elderly like st in this country, the last thing they need is to be banned from doing things based on their age..

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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smithyithy said:
While I do see what you're getting at, I'd like to see statistics that show fatal accidents involving elderly drivers, young drivers, drunk drivers, drugged drivers etc..
We already have a complete ban on drunk drivers and drugged drivers and drivers under the age of 17 though. I'm not sure what more you think could be done to stop that from happening.

dcb

5,835 posts

266 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Vaud said:
Maybe every ten years to 60, then every 5 years, then every 2 years after 80.
+1

Interestingly, older drivers (>= 70) have to *self* certify that
they are ok to drive.

No eye check, no reaction time check, no basic check of driving competency,
no basic check of anything, just trust that the driver will be honest.

Few drivers will voluntarily give up their driving freedom.

This self certify system seems wide open to abuse to me and needs
tightening up if the majority of drivers want reduced insurance premiums
anytime soon.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Do you really think that car insurance prices are heavily affected by drivers over the age of 70 who have lied to keep a valid driving licence?

LankyLegoHead

749 posts

133 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Just to clarify, I think the above idea for re-testing is the best. You can't just blanket ban older drivers.

Ste1987

1,798 posts

107 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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That South Park episode springs to mind.

dcb

5,835 posts

266 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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Jimmy Recard said:
Do you really think that car insurance prices are heavily affected by drivers over the age of 70 who have lied to keep a valid driving licence?
Yes. The facts support my opinion.
The curve of risk versus age is bathtub or U shaped.

High risk for young inexperienced drivers and older no longer capable drivers.
Low risk for middle aged drivers.

Get the riskiest 10 % drivers off the road and I estimate you could cut road
fatalities by 30 - 40% as well as having reduced insurance premiums.



Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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So you do have facts of the percentage of drivers over the age of 70 who have lied about their ability to drive?

kambites

67,580 posts

222 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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"Lied" isn't the right word; I suspect the vast majority elderly people who drive genuinely believe they're safe.

In fact I'd like to believe that the vast majority of poor drivers in general don't believe they're poor drivers or they would have done something about it.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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kambites said:
"Lied" isn't the right word anyway; I suspect the vast majority elderly people who drive genuinely believe they're safe.
I did use it deliberately for my question. I'm trying to work out what this idea of certifying elderly drivers could be in practical terms.

Bennet

2,122 posts

132 months

Monday 12th October 2015
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I completely agree with strict retesting for OAPs, raising the driving age to 21 (or whatever can be shown to be statistically sensible) and increasing the difficulty of the driving test. The utter insanity of no compulsory motorway training, for instance.

However. We should have implemented all of that 25 years ago. It's now so late on that we might as well just wait a few more years for self driving cars. Accidents will reduce to almost nothing. The people causing the odd accident will be enthusiasts who refuse to adopt the new technology. That is to say - us.