RE: Ferrari F12 TdF
Discussion
rivercar1981 said:
Why call it TDf though?
The 250 TDF was named after the race, this has nothing to do with that race.
Just a marketing thing....again. It'll sell like hot cakes.
What next an F12 'Daytona'?
I think it's purely because they didn't want to use the GTO moniker so quickly...there have only been three in forty plus years so to use it again rather ruins the exclusivity of it! The 250 TDF was named after the race, this has nothing to do with that race.
Just a marketing thing....again. It'll sell like hot cakes.
What next an F12 'Daytona'?
And it's kind of consistent with the V8 cars wherre we've have Scuderia, Speciale etc.
WCZ said:
5% increase in power
6% less weight
not massively impressive tbh
nice downforce increase though
The gearbox is 6% shorter geared as well. And the front tyres are now up to 275 width to make it less understeery. I'm guessing not too many people on here given a test drive would say "it's a bit pants to be honest"6% less weight
not massively impressive tbh
nice downforce increase though
It had 730bhp and now has more. They chucked out 100kg. They made the gearing 6% shorter and gave it fatter tyres. You're not impressed because you drive a Saturn V to work each morning.
I think when they road test it there will be a lot of journo's guffing with praise.
Agent XXX said:
this..........
https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_yl...altddc_dss_bd_com%26hsimp%3Dyhs-ddc_bd%26hspart%3Dddc%26fr%3Dyhs-ddc-ddc_bd%26ei%3DUTF-8&w=1024&h=768&imgurl=www.ultimatecarpage.com%2Fimages%2Flarge%2F3236%2FFerrari-250-GT-TdF-Scaglietti--14-Louver--Berlinetta_2.jpg&size=227KB&name=Ferrari-250-GT-TdF-Scaglietti--14-Louver--Berlinetta_2.jpg&rcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ultimatecarpage.com%2Fpic%2F3236%2FFerrari-250-GT-TdF-Scaglietti--14-Louver--Berlinetta_2.html&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ultimatecarpage.com%2Fpic%2F3236%2FFerrari-250-GT-TdF-Scaglietti--14-Louver--Berlinetta_2.html&type=&no=6&tt=120&oid=6406952f9bbb7a3e3fd59504fc8609fa&tit=Ferrari+250+GT+TdF+Scaglietti+%26%2339%3B14+Louver%26%2339%3B+Berlinetta+%28s%2Fn+0683GT+...&sigr=1335tr4bt&sigi=1348n394f&sign=11qvgnami&sigt=103vg5ole&sigb=14qkfvss0&fr=yhs-ddc-ddc_bd&hspart=ddc&hsimp=yhs-ddc_bd
Guvernator said:
780bhp and a 8900rpm redline! 
Those stats sound like a wet dream to me. Is this the best NA engine ever made? If the next Ferrari V12 is turbocharged, which it inevitably will be, then this is probably the pinnacle of the Internal Combustion Engine for me.
I think Ferrari have said their V12s will be hybrid, al a LaFerrari - it could be worse as technically they're still N/A... Those stats sound like a wet dream to me. Is this the best NA engine ever made? If the next Ferrari V12 is turbocharged, which it inevitably will be, then this is probably the pinnacle of the Internal Combustion Engine for me.sidesauce said:
think Ferrari have said their V12s will be hybrid, al a LaFerrari - it could be worse as technically they're still N/A...
Hybrids I can live with, I think they are a better technical solution to the problem of meeting emissions targets then the somewhat lazy method of "downsize and chuck a small turbo or two on it" that everyone else is doing.The 1LR-GUE isnt too shabby.
Guvernator said:
780bhp and a 8900rpm redline! Those stats sound like a wet dream to me. Is this the best NA engine ever made? If the next Ferrari V12 is turbocharged, which it inevitably will be, then this is probably the pinnacle of the Internal Combustion Engine for me.
Those stats sound like a wet dream to me. Is this the best NA engine ever made? If the next Ferrari V12 is turbocharged, which it inevitably will be, then this is probably the pinnacle of the Internal Combustion Engine for me.rivercar1981 said:
No doubt functional, but also inspired by the 275 GTB/C
Beautiful would have preferred a different name such as F12 Berlinetta Competzione... F12/C mb1 said:
A fair improvement over the 'old' Berlinetta.
I extrapolated the only 2 performance figures given to get the other figures below.
Also see how both model compare here: https://youtu.be/4FEI6W0T9AM
Small niggle - the standard car has 730bhp .... theres a 40bhp difference between the two. But then subtract 110kgs (1415Kg for the TDF), rear wheel steer, wider front tyres, 87% more downforce, 6% shorter gears (hence the top speeds being the same). I think this thing will be a bit of a monster on the road/track. I extrapolated the only 2 performance figures given to get the other figures below.
Also see how both model compare here: https://youtu.be/4FEI6W0T9AM
It looks like an animal, I love it and makes the 'normal' f12 look mundane by comparison - some will believe it loses its elegance mind you.
Question is what colour would you go for if you had the money and were given a slot?
Blu Electrico, Tour De France Blu, Bianco Fuji, Rosso Fuoco or Grigio Silverstone would be the colours Id personally opt for!
Erudite geezer said:
Amirhussain said:
WOW, POTW for me 
So where does one place one's number plate?Glad, in a sense, to see that I was beaten to the C7 Stingray thing. Not that far away in the obvious stuff either.
I'm sure it is wonderful to drive and that Ferrari couldn't give two shakes of a monkey's tail about my opinion, but not where my that kind of money would go.
DukeDickson said:
Those who buy probably give that very little thought, even over here.
Its less of an issue to have no front plate... than to have a illegally 'short' numberplate (e.g. incorrect dimensions/spacing/size) at least with lack of front plate you can say it fell off and just pay the fine... mattf93 said:
DukeDickson said:
Those who buy probably give that very little thought, even over here.
Its less of an issue to have no front plate... than to have a illegally 'short' numberplate (e.g. incorrect dimensions/spacing/size) at least with lack of front plate you can say it fell off and just pay the fine... 
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