Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol II)

Best Lease Car Deals Available? (Vol II)

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DizzyN

408 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Hi all,

When placing the order for my lease and subsequent dealings, I found that my experience direct with dealers was better than that of lease brokers, as well as obviously avoiding any fees.

With my current lease due to end in October and the search beginning for a replacement, I was wondering if anyone had contact details for anyone they've dealt with at BMW, Mercedes or Audi directly? Not entirely sure what to replace my R with yet but it would at least mean I can go off and do my research and then just e-mail/call with my exact requirements, hopefully allowing everything to go as smoothly as with the last.

Thanks in advance!

spookly

4,018 posts

95 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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DizzyN said:
Hi all,

When placing the order for my lease and subsequent dealings, I found that my experience direct with dealers was better than that of lease brokers, as well as obviously avoiding any fees.

With my current lease due to end in October and the search beginning for a replacement, I was wondering if anyone had contact details for anyone they've dealt with at BMW, Mercedes or Audi directly? Not entirely sure what to replace my R with yet but it would at least mean I can go off and do my research and then just e-mail/call with my exact requirements, hopefully allowing everything to go as smoothly as with the last.

Thanks in advance!
I always take the approach of using lease brokers/search to get the lowest price I can, and ring a few for proper quotes.

Then take it to a few local dealers to see if they can get anywhere near it. In my experience Merc and BMW dealers never got even close to the lease broker prices even taking into account fees. I've heard rumours the VW/Audi may match some quotes.... but have never seen it myself. But Simpsons Skoda seem to do some very good deals.

My local VW group won't even do PCH at all... I went in to look at a Golf R and they said "we only do leasing using PCP finance".... er, it isn't a lease then.

spookly

4,018 posts

95 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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spookly said:
I always take the approach of using lease brokers/search to get the lowest price I can, and ring a few for proper quotes.

Then take it to a few local dealers to see if they can get anywhere near it. In my experience Merc and BMW dealers never got even close to the lease broker prices even taking into account fees. I've heard rumours the VW/Audi may match some quotes.... but have never seen it myself. But Simpsons Skoda seem to do some very good deals.

My local VW group won't even do PCH at all... I went in to look at a Golf R and they said "we only do leasing using PCP finance".... er, it isn't a lease then.
Also, my last lease - a Merc E220 - was through a broker £750 initial, and £290/month inc VAT. Financed through MBFS.
Not one of the Merc dealers I called could get within £150 of the price.

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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spookly said:
My local VW group won't even do PCH at all... I went in to look at a Golf R and they said "we only do leasing using PCP finance".... er, it isn't a lease then.
I can't say that's not true, but you're probably just not getting to the right person and the normal retail guys won't want to pass you on. Even the pretty small VW dealer on The Wirral, owned by Inchcape, has a dedicated lease salesman based in the branch.

Which group is it?

wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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DizzyN said:
Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone had contact details for anyone they've dealt with at BMW, Mercedes or Audi directly?
I used EWFS for my BMW

http://www.easternwesternfleetservices.co.uk/

https://www.easternwestern.co.uk/bmw/

filski666

3,841 posts

192 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
spookly said:
My local VW group won't even do PCH at all... I went in to look at a Golf R and they said "we only do leasing using PCP finance".... er, it isn't a lease then.
I can't say that's not true, but you're probably just not getting to the right person and the normal retail guys won't want to pass you on. Even the pretty small VW dealer on The Wirral, owned by Inchcape, has a dedicated lease salesman based in the branch.

Which group is it?
You need Fleet sales - you need to search online and find your nearest VW dealer with a Fleet Sales department - they are the ones that handle PCH - not all dealers do this.

DizzyN

408 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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spookly said:
I always take the approach of using lease brokers/search to get the lowest price I can, and ring a few for proper quotes.

Then take it to a few local dealers to see if they can get anywhere near it. In my experience Merc and BMW dealers never got even close to the lease broker prices even taking into account fees. I've heard rumours the VW/Audi may match some quotes.... but have never seen it myself. But Simpsons Skoda seem to do some very good deals.

My local VW group won't even do PCH at all... I went in to look at a Golf R and they said "we only do leasing using PCP finance".... er, it isn't a lease then.
Yeah, that's why I thought I'd ask in here as I don't think the general salesmen deal with PCH but rather fleet sales. Even then, I'm guessing one off PCH deals won't do much for them and it's more word of mouth to get details of those who will and those who are competitive, hence asking in here. With PCH gaining traction, figured there are more people coming out of the woodwork in dealing with such enquiries.

Had the same thing just before ordering my R, local dealer said they'd not be able to get anywhere near my quote but was talking to general salesmen rather than anyone in fleet which may have been the issue.

spookly said:
Also, my last lease - a Merc E220 - was through a broker £750 initial, and £290/month inc VAT. Financed through MBFS.
Not one of the Merc dealers I called could get within £150 of the price.
Which broker, if you don't mind me asking?


DizzyN

408 posts

165 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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spookly

4,018 posts

95 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
I can't say that's not true, but you're probably just not getting to the right person and the normal retail guys won't want to pass you on. Even the pretty small VW dealer on The Wirral, owned by Inchcape, has a dedicated lease salesman based in the branch.

Which group is it?
Heritage VW

spookly

4,018 posts

95 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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DizzyN said:
spookly said:
I always take the approach of using lease brokers/search to get the lowest price I can, and ring a few for proper quotes.

Then take it to a few local dealers to see if they can get anywhere near it. In my experience Merc and BMW dealers never got even close to the lease broker prices even taking into account fees. I've heard rumours the VW/Audi may match some quotes.... but have never seen it myself. But Simpsons Skoda seem to do some very good deals.

My local VW group won't even do PCH at all... I went in to look at a Golf R and they said "we only do leasing using PCP finance".... er, it isn't a lease then.
Yeah, that's why I thought I'd ask in here as I don't think the general salesmen deal with PCH but rather fleet sales. Even then, I'm guessing one off PCH deals won't do much for them and it's more word of mouth to get details of those who will and those who are competitive, hence asking in here. With PCH gaining traction, figured there are more people coming out of the woodwork in dealing with such enquiries.

Had the same thing just before ordering my R, local dealer said they'd not be able to get anywhere near my quote but was talking to general salesmen rather than anyone in fleet which may have been the issue.

spookly said:
Also, my last lease - a Merc E220 - was through a broker £750 initial, and £290/month inc VAT. Financed through MBFS.
Not one of the Merc dealers I called could get within £150 of the price.
Which broker, if you don't mind me asking?
I can't remember as the lease started 3 1/2 years ago :-) I'll check if I've got email from them. You won't get that price now as it was a run out on the old but facelifted E class.

GTIAlex

1,935 posts

166 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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So many brokers pretending to be customers/forum members on here.

wemorgan

3,578 posts

178 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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GTIAlex said:
So many brokers pretending to be customers/forum members on here.
Most have gone. The one or two who remain are quite open.
But since lease deals are very price sensitive only the genuine good deals get a following.

spookly

4,018 posts

95 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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GTIAlex said:
So many brokers pretending to be customers/forum members on here.
Are you referring to anyone in particular?

I'd welcome them with open arms, so long as they come with some good deals.

GG89

3,527 posts

186 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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GTIAlex said:
So many brokers pretending to be customers/forum members on here.
And this is a problem because...?

More the merrier, if the deal is no good no one will go for it.

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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GG89 said:
And this is a problem because...?

More the merrier, if the deal is no good no one will go for it.
Quite, they should just say if they are and be straight, up to us if we choose to go with it or not...

AGK

1,601 posts

155 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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martipearce said:
wemorgan said:
It's worth checking the maths. VAG excess is usually 7.2ppm inc VAT.
Anecdotal evidence says you can phone VWFS at least 12months before the end of the lease and add the extra mileage at a reduced excess rate.
Not true. VWFS are buggers for that sort of thing!
I had extra mileage added to both our Golf R's and it worked out at 3ppm on both. 10k added to one and 20k added to the second.


idontknow

177 posts

134 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Looking for the best deal on an A6 Allroad Sport over 24 months, any pointers?

Blown2CV

28,786 posts

203 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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GG89 said:
GTIAlex said:
So many brokers pretending to be customers/forum members on here.
And this is a problem because...?

More the merrier, if the deal is no good no one will go for it.
we've been around that one a few times before. It just tends to end up being a pest as they can never find a satisfactory level of involvement in the thread, and the deals often are crap so it's just annoying noise.

Carl_Manchester

12,167 posts

262 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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Star666 said:
arun1uk said:
Has anyone ordered the Polo GTI?
Been quoted £220 inc VAT for 13k miles with 3 months deposit - for a fully maintained contract with light with Parking Pack.

Currently quoting August/Sept delivery.

Has anyone seen similar or better? Looking to sign a deal pretty soon.
Hello,

Do you have a link to the website?

Also check this out

https://bluepoppy.co.uk/2016/06/20/vw-polo-gti-onl...
that looks like a rear-loaded 1 year PCP deal to me? not saying its not a good deal though.

I was also quoted 12 weeks delivery but I was flexible on colour (5DR DSG) so I got mine in 3 weeks from placement of order.

WWESTY

2,690 posts

238 months

Tuesday 28th June 2016
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ELUSIVEJIM said:
Always make sure the car you are hoping to lease is not about to get replaced.

It can be worth waiting a further month or two if possible to save a good amount once the new model appears.
Strange! I would always say the reverse! Run out of an existing model usually attracts discounts and the manufacturer usually improves the spec too ime
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