Hey! Let's block lane 3 at rush hour for my trivial accident
Discussion
Blaster72 said:
jmorgan said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Hackney said:
Rubber necking is an urban myth.
Yes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
bYes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
ks.I'm with Hackney on this one.
Edited by MarshPhantom on Thursday 22 October 17:54
MarshPhantom said:
Blaster72 said:
jmorgan said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Hackney said:
Rubber necking is an urban myth.
Yes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
bYes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
ks.I'm with Hackney on this one.
There was no queue after the bump on the other side, this is the bump that was my side and as I get to the point of the bump on my side, the rubber necker queue starts on the other side. Two miles of it.
I see it all the time.
Edit. Even worse when you are in the non accident direction wondering what the holdup is only to find it is the morons slowing to look backing my direction up.
Blaster72 said:
jmorgan said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Hackney said:
Rubber necking is an urban myth.
Yes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
bYes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
ks.Zombie said:
Blaster72 said:
jmorgan said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Hackney said:
Rubber necking is an urban myth.
Yes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
bYes, you may end up slowly driving by an incident on the opposite carriageway but it's not because people slow down to have a look, it's natural slow down when the incident happens and / or knock-on effect of the actual accident.
ks.
MarshPhantom said:
Just because there's slow moving traffic on the other side doesn't mean because rubberneckers.
Nah, they just happen to slow down at that point on a road where 70 is achievable in the traffic conditions and just happen to all glance out the window at the same incident. They are never looking the other way or behind or straight ahead 
It may just be the sense of frustration that builds after sitting still for what seems like ages, or crawling along at 4 mph for mile after mile on a motorway, only to find a
Micra with a flat tyre on the hard shoulder is the cause of it all.
it `seems' however as though the authorities here revel in the chance of blocking off two (or even three lanes of motorway in some stretches) for even the tiniest of incidents, (possibly in the name of health and safety) with what appears to be no sense of the need to get the road open and running again as quickly as possible.
I have been unfortunate enough to witness some serious accidents on French motorways, and was surprised at the speed at which their road authorities get the injured dealt with, and the incident investigated, photographed and recorded, and crucially cleared to allow the road to re open.
I wonder what reasons are given for motorways etc to be closed for what seems like trivial occurrences, and for so much longer following an incident here? could it be the difference in traffic densities in the UK compared to other countries, or an over zealous health and safety mind set, or a combination of these and other factors, we are not aware of, (which has personnel wandering around what appears to be a clear road for ages after the incident has been dealt with)
A road incident is likely to always be bad for those involved in it, but I wonder if the cost to UK plc of keeping the road in question closed for so long is actually taken into account by those charged with dealing with them. It `seems' as though the `get the road open as soon as possible' bit is a long way down the list of actions required.
Micra with a flat tyre on the hard shoulder is the cause of it all.
it `seems' however as though the authorities here revel in the chance of blocking off two (or even three lanes of motorway in some stretches) for even the tiniest of incidents, (possibly in the name of health and safety) with what appears to be no sense of the need to get the road open and running again as quickly as possible.
I have been unfortunate enough to witness some serious accidents on French motorways, and was surprised at the speed at which their road authorities get the injured dealt with, and the incident investigated, photographed and recorded, and crucially cleared to allow the road to re open.
I wonder what reasons are given for motorways etc to be closed for what seems like trivial occurrences, and for so much longer following an incident here? could it be the difference in traffic densities in the UK compared to other countries, or an over zealous health and safety mind set, or a combination of these and other factors, we are not aware of, (which has personnel wandering around what appears to be a clear road for ages after the incident has been dealt with)
A road incident is likely to always be bad for those involved in it, but I wonder if the cost to UK plc of keeping the road in question closed for so long is actually taken into account by those charged with dealing with them. It `seems' as though the `get the road open as soon as possible' bit is a long way down the list of actions required.
The problem here is that if we are held up we become frustrated and angry and need to blame someone. It suits us to think that the reason why we are being held up is down to someone elses stupidity/selfishness/deliberate desire to make us late as it justifies our anger. If we accepted that these things happen from time to time and that everyone involved was doing what they thought was the right thing then it would be pretty silly to get worked up about it.
Given that you are unlikely to have any real details on hwat has happened and why, how sensible is it to start atributing blame to the fact that you have been held up?
I once blocked one side of the road with my car. The bottom ball joint on the front passenger side wheel failed, the drive shaft was ripped out and the wheel ended up at a 45 degree angle. I could not move the car out of the road. I had called for help on a mobile leant to me by an old lady who was behind me when it happened. I didn't have a phone of my own. In the mean time I stood on the verge watching a stream of cars come too fast round a bend and have to brake hard and lock up when they saw my car with it's hazards on. Shortly afterwards a Police car turned up, they had been alerted by several callers to "An idiot changing his wheel in the middle of the road".
Given that you are unlikely to have any real details on hwat has happened and why, how sensible is it to start atributing blame to the fact that you have been held up?
I once blocked one side of the road with my car. The bottom ball joint on the front passenger side wheel failed, the drive shaft was ripped out and the wheel ended up at a 45 degree angle. I could not move the car out of the road. I had called for help on a mobile leant to me by an old lady who was behind me when it happened. I didn't have a phone of my own. In the mean time I stood on the verge watching a stream of cars come too fast round a bend and have to brake hard and lock up when they saw my car with it's hazards on. Shortly afterwards a Police car turned up, they had been alerted by several callers to "An idiot changing his wheel in the middle of the road".
People slow down because they see the flashing lights of the emergency services or they just get a reminder that they are probably going too fast. It's also the proper thing to do anyway, if there are people injured or in shock they don't want to be laying there hearing vehicles going past at 70+mph only yards away.
Thus, rubbernecking is a myth.
Thus, rubbernecking is a myth.
jonm01 said:
People slow down because they see the flashing lights of the emergency services or they just get a reminder that they are probably going too fast. It's also the proper thing to do anyway, if there are people injured or in shock they don't want to be laying there hearing vehicles going past at 70+mph only yards away.
Thus, rubbernecking is a myth.
Talk of rubbernecking is just another way to justify anger at being held up. "The hold up isn't because there has been an accident, it's because of all the idiots"Thus, rubbernecking is a myth.
- ****THREAD RESURRECTION*******
Dashcam clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49MBRaZ6H-0
It's not the first time I've seen such shenanigans on this stop/start western stretch of the M25. But really, what goes through their minds that makes them think it's a good idea?
jonm01 said:
People slow down because they see the flashing lights of the emergency services or they just get a reminder that they are probably going too fast. It's also the proper thing to do anyway, if there are people injured or in shock they don't want to be laying there hearing vehicles going past at 70+mph only yards away.
Thus, rubbernecking is a myth.
It's a myth even though people on here see it happen?Thus, rubbernecking is a myth.
andy118run said:
******THREAD RESURRECTION*******
Yesterday, Lane 4 of the anti-clockwise M25 -
Dashcam clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49MBRaZ6H-0
It's not the first time I've seen such shenanigans on this stop/start western stretch of the M25. But really, what goes through their minds that makes them think it's a good idea?
fYesterday, Lane 4 of the anti-clockwise M25 -
Dashcam clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49MBRaZ6H-0
It's not the first time I've seen such shenanigans on this stop/start western stretch of the M25. But really, what goes through their minds that makes them think it's a good idea?
king total utter muppets! This is EXACTLY what I meant when I started the thread, perfect. conkerman said:
M40/M25 going to AND from work yesterday.
Pricks.
M25 seems to be particularly bad at the moment. I don't think I've had a single journey this week where there wasn't a crash of some sort.Pricks.
I had an epic a few weeks back though. Crash on the M25 causing a huge delay, then a warning that the A2 was blocked due to another crash. I diverted via the M20 to be met with a car fire
Dog Star said:
...They'll be stopped with a few people standing there peering at some either invisible or very trivial (eg. broken indicator, number plate) damage or waving documents about.
Are these people total bellends? Are they waiting for forensics to turn up and take measurements?...
Yes - that's exactly what some of them expect, nay - demand!Are these people total bellends? Are they waiting for forensics to turn up and take measurements?...
Some years ago, I was despatched to a lane 3 shunt. Put a temporary block on the motorway to shift the (almost undamaged) cars to the hard shoulder, but the driver of the front car was having none of it.
"I'm not moving this car one inch until the Police turn up and measure those skid marks; they will prove that this lunatic was speeding"
"How many people are dead, sir?"
"None"
"How many people are injured, sir?"
"None"
"Well, I think I'm safe in saying that the Police will not be at all interested in one broken rear lamp and one cracked bumper. Now will you drive it to the hard shoulder, or should I do it?"
They walk amongst us...
98elise said:
conkerman said:
M40/M25 going to AND from work yesterday.
Pricks.
M25 seems to be particularly bad at the moment. I don't think I've had a single journey this week where there wasn't a crash of some sort.Pricks.
I had an epic a few weeks back though. Crash on the M25 causing a huge delay, then a warning that the A2 was blocked due to another crash. I diverted via the M20 to be met with a car fire
We can all hazard a guess as to the causes but I bet 'the authorities' know darn well what it is.
Either it is impossible to prevent without further legislation or detection methods, or they really are so stretched that any preventative policing is out of the question.
Dog Star said:
andy118run said:
******THREAD RESURRECTION*******
Yesterday, Lane 4 of the anti-clockwise M25 -
Dashcam clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49MBRaZ6H-0
It's not the first time I've seen such shenanigans on this stop/start western stretch of the M25. But really, what goes through their minds that makes them think it's a good idea?
fYesterday, Lane 4 of the anti-clockwise M25 -
Dashcam clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49MBRaZ6H-0
It's not the first time I've seen such shenanigans on this stop/start western stretch of the M25. But really, what goes through their minds that makes them think it's a good idea?
king total utter muppets! This is EXACTLY what I meant when I started the thread, perfect. This is all too common in Germany. I was heading home yesterday afternoon on the A99 east of Munich and there was a three car shunt in the outside lane. Very minor damage to the vehicles and the drivers were all stood together in the lane talking away. Mind you, they did have their reflective vests on and a warning triangle about 30 feet away from the last car so that made it ok 
. As you can expect, traffic just ground to a halt. Why the drivers couldn't have just moved across to the shoulder I don't know.
. As you can expect, traffic just ground to a halt. Why the drivers couldn't have just moved across to the shoulder I don't know. Maybe because of a 'leaving the scene of an accident' technicality that people are over thinking about?
Surely 3 'intelligent' individuals could agree amongst themselves, "You know what, it's a bit effing stupid and dangerous dealing with this here, shall we all move over there out of harm's way?"
Not difficult is it?
Surely 3 'intelligent' individuals could agree amongst themselves, "You know what, it's a bit effing stupid and dangerous dealing with this here, shall we all move over there out of harm's way?"
Not difficult is it?
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