The illusion of SUV safety
Discussion
We know the consensus, SUV’s are heavy and their added height allows their structures to override that of cars making them superior in a crash.
Only I think the reality is on the contrary although I confess my opinion comes only from spending a lot of time viewing the Russian dash cam videos in the “s
t driving caught on dashcam thread”.
It seems to me that the overwhelming majority of SUVs in those videos end up rolling over, I mean like 99% of them. It doesn’t matter how slow they are going or what type of collision they have, they all end up rolling.
You don’t see this in NCAP crash tests because the cars are on perfectly flat ground, with no steering applied and in some cases they are stationary.
In the real world however roads have cambers, the suspension / momentum may already be biased if cornering, the speeds are higher and of course there is no telling what angle someone is going to crash into you at.
The result is, I’d rather be in a car. Anyone else?
I’ll leave you with a car vs X5 battle!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-jailed...
Only I think the reality is on the contrary although I confess my opinion comes only from spending a lot of time viewing the Russian dash cam videos in the “s
t driving caught on dashcam thread”.It seems to me that the overwhelming majority of SUVs in those videos end up rolling over, I mean like 99% of them. It doesn’t matter how slow they are going or what type of collision they have, they all end up rolling.
You don’t see this in NCAP crash tests because the cars are on perfectly flat ground, with no steering applied and in some cases they are stationary.
In the real world however roads have cambers, the suspension / momentum may already be biased if cornering, the speeds are higher and of course there is no telling what angle someone is going to crash into you at.
The result is, I’d rather be in a car. Anyone else?
I’ll leave you with a car vs X5 battle!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-jailed...
Nothing new or revolutionary in what you're saying there.
One thing you omitted is that a SUV because of its height affords a better view of the road hence giving the SUV driver a better chance of avoiding things in the first place.
Having had a number of SUVs as well as a number of cars there are pros and cons to both when it comes to road safety.
One thing you omitted is that a SUV because of its height affords a better view of the road hence giving the SUV driver a better chance of avoiding things in the first place.
Having had a number of SUVs as well as a number of cars there are pros and cons to both when it comes to road safety.
Ollie123 said:
I’ll leave you with a car vs X5 battle!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-jailed...
All I see is crap driving from the X5 driver.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-jailed...
mp3manager said:
Ollie123 said:
I’ll leave you with a car vs X5 battle!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-jailed...
All I see is crap driving from the X5 driver.http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-jailed...
Shirely?
I recently took my car on a car limits day at North Weald.
A huge area of flat tarmac to spin on and nothing to hit, but they refuse to teach anyone in a people carrier or off roader. Obviously any vehicle with a high centre of gravity is easier to roll, and consequently less safe.
If you never drive off road, why drive such a compromised vehicle.
For those who are scared to leave their house, drive a large saloon as that will be much safer in most circumstances.
A huge area of flat tarmac to spin on and nothing to hit, but they refuse to teach anyone in a people carrier or off roader. Obviously any vehicle with a high centre of gravity is easier to roll, and consequently less safe.
If you never drive off road, why drive such a compromised vehicle.
For those who are scared to leave their house, drive a large saloon as that will be much safer in most circumstances.
downsman said:
I recently took my car on a car limits day at North Weald.
A huge area of flat tarmac to spin on and nothing to hit, but they refuse to teach anyone in a people carrier or off roader. Obviously any vehicle with a high centre of gravity is easier to roll, and consequently less safe.
I've twice seen cars roll and both times I could scarcely believe it - neither doing any great speed, hit the kerb and next thing they're on their roof.A huge area of flat tarmac to spin on and nothing to hit, but they refuse to teach anyone in a people carrier or off roader. Obviously any vehicle with a high centre of gravity is easier to roll, and consequently less safe.
downsman said:
I recently took my car on a car limits day at North Weald.
A huge area of flat tarmac to spin on and nothing to hit, but they refuse to teach anyone in a people carrier or off roader. Obviously any vehicle with a high centre of gravity is easier to roll, and consequently less safe.
If you never drive off road, why drive such a compromised vehicle.
For those who are scared to leave their house, drive a large saloon as that will be much safer in most circumstances.
Consequently less safe? More like more hassle for insurance.A huge area of flat tarmac to spin on and nothing to hit, but they refuse to teach anyone in a people carrier or off roader. Obviously any vehicle with a high centre of gravity is easier to roll, and consequently less safe.
If you never drive off road, why drive such a compromised vehicle.
For those who are scared to leave their house, drive a large saloon as that will be much safer in most circumstances.
People seem to have this weird idea that a roll over is very dangerous. Whilst pretty scary its not as dangerous as people seem to think.
Have you ever owned an SUV (owned as opposed to sitting in one or driving a mates once or twice)?
I saw the aftermath of a Range Rover versus a saloon car accident the other day. The RR was a write off, but perfectly intact. The car was utterly destroyed. The RR driver was stood watching the car driver being cut out of the car. Car driver went to hospital in a helicopter. RR driver probably had to call a taxi.
US studies suggest that in a single vehicle accident an SUV gives a lesser chance of survival than a car but in a multiple vehicle accident an SUV was better than a car.
One of the reasons they gave is that single vehicle accidents will often result from someone driving off the road and the vehicle rolling. Given the US typically don't use seatbelts theres a lot more space to bounce around an SUV than a car. In the UK with seatbelts I would imagine there will belittle in it.
One of the reasons they gave is that single vehicle accidents will often result from someone driving off the road and the vehicle rolling. Given the US typically don't use seatbelts theres a lot more space to bounce around an SUV than a car. In the UK with seatbelts I would imagine there will belittle in it.
lostkiwi said:
Consequently less safe? More like more hassle for insurance.
People seem to have this weird idea that a roll over is very dangerous. Whilst pretty scary its not as dangerous as people seem to think.
Have you ever owned an SUV (owned as opposed to sitting in one or driving a mates once or twice)?
I don't think there is any insurance - and if I remember rightly that rule was brought in after someone rolled a Fiat Panda.People seem to have this weird idea that a roll over is very dangerous. Whilst pretty scary its not as dangerous as people seem to think.
Have you ever owned an SUV (owned as opposed to sitting in one or driving a mates once or twice)?
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