Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????

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Konan

1,817 posts

145 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Janesy B said:
Why has Shmee resorted to reaction videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iomGhxZiAfU

I was starting to enjoy his content but after his Ponzi scheme sponsored road trip and this, I'm oot. Sorry.
Needs a reaction video on straightening that canvas.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

102 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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ReaperCushions said:
Good lord that is horrible to watch.

Shmee, I know you were paid to make that video... but thats me done as well, sorry. No doubt you don't really care.
Why would he?

e21Mark

16,205 posts

172 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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numtumfutunch said:
Janesy B said:
Why has Shmee resorted to reaction videos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iomGhxZiAfU

I was starting to enjoy his content but after his Ponzi scheme sponsored road trip and this, I'm oot. Sorry.
Oh dear
Cringe in the extreme.

JoeMarano

1,042 posts

99 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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ReaperCushions said:
Good lord that is horrible to watch.

Shmee, I know you were paid to make that video... but thats me done as well, sorry. Nok doubt you don't really care.
He has like 100k subscribers so yeah I doubt he cares to be honest.

w00tman

603 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Jesus - I quite like the chap, and from what I hear he is actually a nice guy, but f'kin hell that was the cringiest thing I've seen in a very long time.

"Ooh yeah, slide those cars.." - reaction of the decade? I for one think.. yes.

Blaster72

10,775 posts

196 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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That is without doubt the worst YouTube video Shmee had ever made.

I'm sure the Amazon coin should help ease his pain though. No idea why they'd use Shmee to advertise for them in the first time place though.

TheJimi

24,862 posts

242 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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All I can can say is - just because you can, doesn't mean to say you should.

I'm not a Shmee fan but jeez that really was pretty bad, man hehe

Janesy B

2,625 posts

185 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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TheJimi said:
All I can can say is - just because you can, doesn't mean to say you should.

I'm not a Shmee fan but that really was pretty bad, man hehe

p1stonhead

25,489 posts

166 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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How much of a narcccist do you have to be to film a video of your own face watching another video.

When are the first trips to Mars? This planet is rubbish.

ambuletz

10,692 posts

180 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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p1stonhead said:
How much of a narcccist do you have to be to film a video of your own face watching another video.

When are the first trips to Mars? This planet is rubbish.
it's not narcissim, do you watch youtube much? do you understand what reaciton videos are?

I'm not a fan of reaction videos either, many of them lack any substance. 95% of the reaction videos out there is some spanner saying 3-4 words in an entire 10minute video. Many also break copyright rules as they show the entire video.The recent video of Dwayne Johnson (the rock) was actually a good reaction video because you actually got something from him that you didn't from seeing the video itself. Whether you like them or not they are popular, along with many other things like 'full day of eating' videos. Even if amazon did pay him I'm sure he probably got more then 50quid to spend 6minutes recording a video.

DonkeyApple

54,932 posts

168 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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I think it's fine. Most of us are looking forward to the new series and the video states very clearly that it is an advert rather than a personal review.

anonymous-user

53 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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The Crack Fox said:
Tim, if you're reading this, I think any credibility you had just evaporated. frown
Thing is we (PHers in the broadest sense ) are not the target audience for this.

As an idea floated at a meeting of Amazon Prime marketeers it makes perfect sense. Mr Shmee's viewing demographic in the main teenage boys living in households with access to the internet. What better way to get mass access for a web based broadcaster of a programme guaranteed to appeal to said group and then cause them to badger mum and dad into subscribing to Amazon Prime ?

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 8th October 12:06

Shmee

7,565 posts

212 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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I'm not for a second going to pretend it isn't hurtful reading negative comments here given Pistonheads played a large contribution in starting and getting the ball rolling for what I do now but the thing that I think people often forget is that if you don't enjoy something you watched on the internet, it means you probably aren't the target audience for that specific piece and don't need to watch it.

Obviously part of me would love to tailor content exclusively for a Pistonheads style audience but the reality is that if I did that then I'd be looking at a much, much smaller total demographic and by nature of the beast that means the business case isn't the same and there would be fewer opportunities on the cards for myself personally, the business, and the cars. It's talked about countless times in this thread about people wanting to make a channel that fits that niche but it's genuinely not that simple, I'd prefer a percentage of my videos were interesting to this group and the audience can chop between what they would like to see.

The response here to the concept of the 'reaction' video is different from elsewhere, this is a trend on YouTube itself and I suppose if you were a regular viewer of all types of YouTube content then it would be normal but if you're coming from the outside where you've only seen car videos then it's something different. In the huge world of movie trailers and film scenes there is a platform for reaction videos like this when the newest versions are released, have a look around and you'll see on what I modeled this video. There have been instances of reaction videos receiving 'hate' when they involve stealing the content from others to profit from it but obviously this doesn't fit that mould as the initial video was provided to me for the purpose. Obviously it's a paid placement, I've been very clear about that (so I can take a little bit of insult against it - you win some, you lose some), but the part I don't understand is why individuals can get so bothered by something that ultimately can just be closed, ignored and forgotten.

This video in question has gained a vast number of views in its first 18 hours which clearly demonstrates a general interest in it, and from my point of view that ultimately has to be considered a success. Yes it's sad that it hasn't gone down well right here but hopefully you'll find something I can do in the future to enjoy, it not then I'm sorry and so be it.

w00tman

603 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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Tim, it's not just here it's getting some dissenting remarks, looks like quite a few places including facebook are pointing out this is not in your usual quality/style.

Getting lots of attention is good unless you begin undermining your own brand. See: new coke.

I wouldn't have minded if the reaction was insightful but saying "ohh yeah slide those cars" is pretty f'king dull mate.

I really like your channel and I know a couple of other you tubers personally who speak highly of you - but IMO you need to make sure you don't undermine things.

CS Garth

2,860 posts

104 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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I thoughtful and well written explanation Tim and I would just ignore some of the tosspots - it's not cringeworthy or credibility destroying at all (what stupid overly dramatic remarks) and frankly these are hurtful style remarks and it surprises me people have made them. It's just a video people, if you don't like it switch off.

Given the total ste out there (looking at the good lord Aleem) I don't know why some people are getting worked up about a normal, well spoken bloke making his way in the world in an enjoyable fashion. Or perhaps it is precisely this that pisses some of the inverse snobs off.

Bat on sir

CS Garth

2,860 posts

104 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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w00tman said:
Tim, it's not just here it's getting some dissenting remarks, looks like quite a few places including facebook are pointing out this is not in your usual quality/style.

Getting lots of attention is good unless you begin undermining your own brand. See: new coke.

I wouldn't have minded if the reaction was insightful but saying "ohh yeah slide those cars" is pretty f'king dull mate.

I really like your channel and I know a couple of other you tubers personally who speak highly of you - but IMO you need to make sure you don't undermine things.
Fkin hell mate - I'd love to see a transcript of your work dialogue to ensure each and every word is erudite and witty.

w00tman

603 posts

144 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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CS Garth said:
Fkin hell mate - I'd love to see a transcript of your work dialogue to ensure each and every word is erudite and witty.
I should definitely monitise a YouTube channel of my erudite and en-pointe witterings - great idea.

"Ohh tom, click that PowerPoint presentation bro - ohh.. nice transition.." (this post was sponsored by Microsoft)

Blaster72

10,775 posts

196 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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I'm sorry for being negative but if you're going to get paid to promote someone else's content it might be best to put a bit more effort into it.

That fell well short of your usual high standards.

If you think reaching your target audience and getting x number of views is good enough so be it. It was almost like you really couldn't be bothered to do it.

Shmee

7,565 posts

212 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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I had the video clip from 1pm on the day and it had to go out at 6pm - including editing, rendering, scheduling, and approval - it was quite a challenge!

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

162 months

Saturday 8th October 2016
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I watched a STG vid recently on PH.
Wish I hadn't bothered.
Now his vids are in the "other stuff you may like" when I go on YouTube.
I ended up watching a second STG vid....rolleyes
I now will actively avoid all of these vid makers.
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