Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????
Discussion
jon- said:
I've been on a few events with Sam from STG and he's a genuine decent chap with a real passion for cars.
If you don't like how he comes across in his videos I suggest you avoid them and get on with your lives. It's that easy.
Good advice. If you don't like how he comes across in his videos I suggest you avoid them and get on with your lives. It's that easy.
Having just watched my first STG video I will gladly avoid them in future and continue getting on with my life.
johnwilliams77 said:
Tim, what this has to do with the topic is the youtubers and the sort of absolute morons that follow you guys around with no respect for peoples property. Surprised a supposedly educated man cannot figure that out.
I completely disagree with this point in every possible way.The people who follow me and my contemporaries are those who are keen and enthusiastic about cars, these are absolutely not the people who would disrespect them. The people who I experience falling into these categories (and remember I've attended more than enough PH Sunday Services, Goodwood Breakfast Clubs and so on myself) are those who aren't quite as enthusiastic and just 'turn up'.
Shmee said:
I completely disagree with this point in every possible way.
The people who follow me and my contemporaries are those who are keen and enthusiastic about cars, these are absolutely not the people who would disrespect them. The people who I experience falling into these categories (and remember I've attended more than enough PH Sunday Services, Goodwood Breakfast Clubs and so on myself) are those who aren't quite as enthusiastic and just 'turn up'.
I said 'you guys' as in car youtubers. I have seen one of lord aleems videos where the followers have no respect for him, his space or his cars. If you get nice treatment, then great but I am sure if seen you write you have had similar issues at car shows. The people who follow me and my contemporaries are those who are keen and enthusiastic about cars, these are absolutely not the people who would disrespect them. The people who I experience falling into these categories (and remember I've attended more than enough PH Sunday Services, Goodwood Breakfast Clubs and so on myself) are those who aren't quite as enthusiastic and just 'turn up'.
Shmee said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Tim, what this has to do with the topic is the youtubers and the sort of absolute morons that follow you guys around with no respect for peoples property. Surprised a supposedly educated man cannot figure that out.
I completely disagree with this point in every possible way.The people who follow me and my contemporaries are those who are keen and enthusiastic about cars, these are absolutely not the people who would disrespect them. The people who I experience falling into these categories (and remember I've attended more than enough PH Sunday Services, Goodwood Breakfast Clubs and so on myself) are those who aren't quite as enthusiastic and just 'turn up'.
You embrace them as people who fund your pursuits, I'm afraid it's highly likely that you're embracing some t
ts within their numbers.Shmee said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Tim, what this has to do with the topic is the youtubers and the sort of absolute morons that follow you guys around with no respect for peoples property. Surprised a supposedly educated man cannot figure that out.
I completely disagree with this point in every possible way.The people who follow me and my contemporaries are those who are keen and enthusiastic about cars, these are absolutely not the people who would disrespect them. The people who I experience falling into these categories (and remember I've attended more than enough PH Sunday Services, Goodwood Breakfast Clubs and so on myself) are those who aren't quite as enthusiastic and just 'turn up'.
We're clearly not as immensely educated as MrJW here.
ferrisbueller said:
People like that, and the people they attract, are the reason why I've not been to a PHSS for a long time.
Don't let it stop you.I've met a few people, and they are all pretty nice, the average guys you and me.
I think the problem is the Youtube supercar celebrities.. :-) not the average PH'er.
That being said, I think there is an air of pompus and powerfully built director types. You just need to listen to a few of the conversations said between people. I overheard someone saying that the Clubsport S (someone had brought one...well, there were 2 actually!) wasn't "any good" "because it's FWD".... LOL.
But that's the minority rather than the majority.
Quickmoose said:
Shmee said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Tim, what this has to do with the topic is the youtubers and the sort of absolute morons that follow you guys around with no respect for peoples property. Surprised a supposedly educated man cannot figure that out.
I completely disagree with this point in every possible way.The people who follow me and my contemporaries are those who are keen and enthusiastic about cars, these are absolutely not the people who would disrespect them. The people who I experience falling into these categories (and remember I've attended more than enough PH Sunday Services, Goodwood Breakfast Clubs and so on myself) are those who aren't quite as enthusiastic and just 'turn up'.
We're clearly not as immensely educated as MrJW here.
JW77 I am a subscriber to Shmee's (and others) channels and don't consider myself a moron - I'm in my early thirties, respect other people's property and wouldn't dare climb on or otherwise damage someone's car. That's a ludicrous assumption.
Edited by Scuba_steve on Monday 12th December 15:49
xjay1337 said:
Don't let it stop you.
I've met a few people, and they are all pretty nice, the average guys you and me.
I think the problem is the Youtube supercar celebrities.. :-) not the average PH'er.
That being said, I think there is an air of pompus and powerfully built director types. You just need to listen to a few of the conversations said between people. I overheard someone saying that the Clubsport S (someone had brought one...well, there were 2 actually!) wasn't "any good" "because it's FWD".... LOL.
But that's the minority rather than the majority.
What's funny about that? That's purely a personal car preference.I've met a few people, and they are all pretty nice, the average guys you and me.
I think the problem is the Youtube supercar celebrities.. :-) not the average PH'er.
That being said, I think there is an air of pompus and powerfully built director types. You just need to listen to a few of the conversations said between people. I overheard someone saying that the Clubsport S (someone had brought one...well, there were 2 actually!) wasn't "any good" "because it's FWD".... LOL.
But that's the minority rather than the majority.
Scuba_steve said:
Quickmoose said:
Shmee said:
johnwilliams77 said:
Tim, what this has to do with the topic is the youtubers and the sort of absolute morons that follow you guys around with no respect for peoples property. Surprised a supposedly educated man cannot figure that out.
I completely disagree with this point in every possible way.The people who follow me and my contemporaries are those who are keen and enthusiastic about cars, these are absolutely not the people who would disrespect them. The people who I experience falling into these categories (and remember I've attended more than enough PH Sunday Services, Goodwood Breakfast Clubs and so on myself) are those who aren't quite as enthusiastic and just 'turn up'.
We're clearly not as immensely educated as MrJW here.
JW77 I am a subscriber to Shmee's (and others) channels and don't consider myself a moron - I'm in my early thirties, respect other people's property and wouldn't dare damage/climb on or otherwise damage someone's car. That's a ludicrous assumption.
I haven't suggested anyone here would damage or behave in an anti-social way.
However I also don't subscribe to the suggestion that every/most of the STG/Shmee150's followers are uneducated and either expect to sit in someone else's car or damage it.
I subscribe to the channels too...
So my neck doesn't need winding anywhere thank you, I haven't missed the point.
The point missed by JW is that EVERY group or demographic has amongst their number, fine upstanding, average, normal, objectionable and plain unlikable types.
Suggesting that somehow it's the "youtube" group that are the only morons wandering around car parks is plain wrong.
johnwilliams77 said:
What's funny about that? That's purely a personal car preference.
If I don't like something I say , I can appreciate it's a great car but it's not to my personal tasted rather than to say a car, which clearly is very good, isn't.Further to the above, if it's not a SUPERCAR which GETS THEM VIEWERS then STG doesn't car.
Many snobby people are the same.
For me one of the best cars is that guys Focus estate that he built that looks like a 1.6 tdci. Much more interesting than me to a Lambo. But to the average visitor... "why is that tatty focus here"
Edited by xjay1337 on Monday 12th December 16:19
xjay1337 said:
Hmm, fair enough.
My point is still valid though, and likewise I'm sure for you. Most of your views follow you for the supercar lifestyle, not the supermini reviews.
In general yes, I use my Focus RS an awful lot but obviously when I make videos or post photos with it, they are of less interest to the audience than the moment you add a supercar.My point is still valid though, and likewise I'm sure for you. Most of your views follow you for the supercar lifestyle, not the supermini reviews.
93DW said:
Are you talking about the same STG that has bought and made several videos about his own Abarth 695?
I'm not sure it's really choice though. I mean he needed a daily runabout as he can't afford to run his "supercar" with the amount of miles he does.So he bought abut the flashiest, most exclusive and show-offy cheapish hatch back he could. He then makes vids abut it because he's in it everyday and expected to upload daily, he sort of has to.
I'd better money he'd rather be making another vid about CRAZY LAMBOS or whatever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNJs_x3R6Ww&t=...
Someone's car is FAYMUZ. And me. I'm the fat one.
Maybe a feature video....
On a serious note, that's some bloody cheeky videography, I did not even notice someone there.
Someone's car is FAYMUZ. And me. I'm the fat one.
Maybe a feature video....
On a serious note, that's some bloody cheeky videography, I did not even notice someone there.
Japveesix said:
93DW said:
Are you talking about the same STG that has bought and made several videos about his own Abarth 695?
I'm not sure it's really choice though. I mean he needed a daily runabout as he can't afford to run his "supercar" with the amount of miles he does.So he bought abut the flashiest, most exclusive and show-offy cheapish hatch back he could. He then makes vids abut it because he's in it everyday and expected to upload daily, he sort of has to.
I'd better money he'd rather be making another vid about CRAZY LAMBOS or whatever.
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