Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????
Discussion
Shmee said:
CooperS said:
For me you're watching the content for the characters as the famous 5 all push the same advertising lead content and same approach.
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That was genuinely hilarious based on certain recent events...! I don't think I come under most of it though, or at least I try not to.- Tell people your thinking of buying a new car
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The Clickbait desperation of SoL, now being copied by Archie and Seb etc (who genuinely have NO content of any merit) makes Shmee and to a lesser extent STG look like the world's greatest car youtubers imo. JWW was also looking very promising as he's very watchable but he does have a bit too much sponsored rubbish.
S11Steve said:
Isn't Sam STG heir to the Earl of Westmorland title? It would appear that the family is proper old money/landed gentry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Westmorland
I believe his father is Heir presumptive (i.e his entitlement to inherit could still change if the current Earl produced another heir (heir apparent).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Westmorland
If STG's father does inherit the title then it would definitely pass to STG on his fathers death.
As with most of the aristos though having a title doesn't necessarily mean also inheriting large liquid wealth. Most are asset rich and cash poor.
Davey S2 said:
I believe his father is Heir presumptive (i.e his entitlement to inherit could still change if the current Earl produced another heir (heir apparent).
If STG's father does inherit the title then it would definitely pass to STG on his fathers death.
As with most of the aristos though having a title doesn't necessarily mean also inheriting large liquid wealth. Most are asset rich and cash poor.
Albeit a Harrow education would suggest some degree of liquidity ........If STG's father does inherit the title then it would definitely pass to STG on his fathers death.
As with most of the aristos though having a title doesn't necessarily mean also inheriting large liquid wealth. Most are asset rich and cash poor.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 February 15:49
Michaelhunt said:
However I think given the fact you earn quite a lot of money from YouTube I would invest more heavily in equipment and production values and half the amount of videos put out.
It's an interesting topic, because I could of course buy more (or more expensive) gear for the purpose but I genuinely don't want to, and there are two reasons for that. The first is the laborious side of getting the shots; the nature of my content is snap out the Handycam or Actioncams in car and go. If I had lenses, filters, mics etc, it very quickly goes from being fun and easy to stressful, hard work, and things going wrong. I'm trying to share a positive experience generally and I need to feel that way myself to make the video.
The other is about how the audience en-mass genuinely engage more with content that's off the cuff and feels real or possible to replicate. Look at the rise of SnapChat and Instagram to prove that theory, with millions following the low res uploads of celebs over any form of high quality content. In some form it is more relatable if the video is shot in a way that the viewer 'could have done it themselves'. Admittedly there is also an effort put in to making it all look much easier than it is which is perhaps deceptive but it's done across the board.
In terms of putting out less content, I've found from spending hours every day studying the algorithms that for my audience and style that the moment that the more content I can post the more success comes form it. In reality if I could double up daily it would be even better but that would be pushing the boat too far! I posted some charts and numbers on the topic not too long ago in the thread.
Michaelhunt said:
Oh. He's now jumped down a level in my books. I mean I still like him even if he does say "seen through glaaaaaaaaaarrrrse" and "helloooooooo one and all"
and have a bald head at age 12
Also being old money he should be driving an old Subaru estate while wearing a manky old Barbour instead of driving new money footbalist type vehicles what what...and have a bald head at age 12
Shmee said:
It's an interesting topic, because I could of course buy more (or more expensive) gear for the purpose but I genuinely don't want to, and there are two reasons for that.
The first is the laborious side of getting the shots; the nature of my content is snap out the Handycam or Actioncams in car and go. If I had lenses, filters, mics etc, it very quickly goes from being fun and easy to stressful, hard work, and things going wrong. I'm trying to share a positive experience generally and I need to feel that way myself to make the video.
The other is about how the audience en-mass genuinely engage more with content that's off the cuff and feels real or possible to replicate. Look at the rise of SnapChat and Instagram to prove that theory, with millions following the low res uploads of celebs over any form of high quality content. In some form it is more relatable if the video is shot in a way that the viewer 'could have done it themselves'. Admittedly there is also an effort put in to making it all look much easier than it is which is perhaps deceptive but it's done across the board.
In terms of putting out less content, I've found from spending hours every day studying the algorithms that for my audience and style that the moment that the more content I can post the more success comes form it. In reality if I could double up daily it would be even better but that would be pushing the boat too far! I posted some charts and numbers on the topic not too long ago in the thread.
I get why you do it in just think from my personal perspective I would enjoy your content much more if there was less of it and more fleshed out. You clearly have more than an ounce of money and class so your videos at least in my opinion should show that.The first is the laborious side of getting the shots; the nature of my content is snap out the Handycam or Actioncams in car and go. If I had lenses, filters, mics etc, it very quickly goes from being fun and easy to stressful, hard work, and things going wrong. I'm trying to share a positive experience generally and I need to feel that way myself to make the video.
The other is about how the audience en-mass genuinely engage more with content that's off the cuff and feels real or possible to replicate. Look at the rise of SnapChat and Instagram to prove that theory, with millions following the low res uploads of celebs over any form of high quality content. In some form it is more relatable if the video is shot in a way that the viewer 'could have done it themselves'. Admittedly there is also an effort put in to making it all look much easier than it is which is perhaps deceptive but it's done across the board.
In terms of putting out less content, I've found from spending hours every day studying the algorithms that for my audience and style that the moment that the more content I can post the more success comes form it. In reality if I could double up daily it would be even better but that would be pushing the boat too far! I posted some charts and numbers on the topic not too long ago in the thread.
I believe I was told that you had a team or something behind shmee150? Could you not pay a camera man/editor type person to do the tedious stuff? It's been mentioned here roughly what you can earn from YouTube a year and by the profit numbers you could definately afford to make less. At the end of the day wouldn't it be nice to leave a lasting YouTube legacy (like Harris has) rather than some videos for pre pubescents that will only gets views for a week or so?
Again just some thoughts. Constructive criticism (although it isn't really criticism) is much better than being told "your videos are s
t" (which I've seen in YT comments before)retrorider said:
Also being old money he should be driving an old Subaru estate while wearing a manky old Barbour instead of driving new money footbalist type vehicles what what...
Ah yes I saw that Top Gear episode with May in just the other day. Toffs don't buy things they just inherit them or something like that lolMichaelhunt said:
Shmee said:
It's an interesting topic, because I could of course buy more (or more expensive) gear for the purpose but I genuinely don't want to, and there are two reasons for that.
The first is the laborious side of getting the shots; the nature of my content is snap out the Handycam or Actioncams in car and go. If I had lenses, filters, mics etc, it very quickly goes from being fun and easy to stressful, hard work, and things going wrong. I'm trying to share a positive experience generally and I need to feel that way myself to make the video.
The other is about how the audience en-mass genuinely engage more with content that's off the cuff and feels real or possible to replicate. Look at the rise of SnapChat and Instagram to prove that theory, with millions following the low res uploads of celebs over any form of high quality content. In some form it is more relatable if the video is shot in a way that the viewer 'could have done it themselves'. Admittedly there is also an effort put in to making it all look much easier than it is which is perhaps deceptive but it's done across the board.
In terms of putting out less content, I've found from spending hours every day studying the algorithms that for my audience and style that the moment that the more content I can post the more success comes form it. In reality if I could double up daily it would be even better but that would be pushing the boat too far! I posted some charts and numbers on the topic not too long ago in the thread.
I get why you do it in just think from my personal perspective I would enjoy your content much more if there was less of it and more fleshed out. You clearly have more than an ounce of money and class so your videos at least in my opinion should show that.The first is the laborious side of getting the shots; the nature of my content is snap out the Handycam or Actioncams in car and go. If I had lenses, filters, mics etc, it very quickly goes from being fun and easy to stressful, hard work, and things going wrong. I'm trying to share a positive experience generally and I need to feel that way myself to make the video.
The other is about how the audience en-mass genuinely engage more with content that's off the cuff and feels real or possible to replicate. Look at the rise of SnapChat and Instagram to prove that theory, with millions following the low res uploads of celebs over any form of high quality content. In some form it is more relatable if the video is shot in a way that the viewer 'could have done it themselves'. Admittedly there is also an effort put in to making it all look much easier than it is which is perhaps deceptive but it's done across the board.
In terms of putting out less content, I've found from spending hours every day studying the algorithms that for my audience and style that the moment that the more content I can post the more success comes form it. In reality if I could double up daily it would be even better but that would be pushing the boat too far! I posted some charts and numbers on the topic not too long ago in the thread.
I believe I was told that you had a team or something behind shmee150? Could you not pay a camera man/editor type person to do the tedious stuff? It's been mentioned here roughly what you can earn from YouTube a year and by the profit numbers you could definately afford to make less. At the end of the day wouldn't it be nice to leave a lasting YouTube legacy (like Harris has) rather than some videos for pre pubescents that will only gets views for a week or so?
Again just some thoughts. Constructive criticism (although it isn't really criticism) is much better than being told "your videos are s
t" (which I've seen in YT comments before)Most don't have an interest in making super slick, well edited videos as those cost money. It's much easier to film on a GoPro, edit on a mac and upload and onto the next one.
Also, the comments about Sams lineage are interesting, but I think it's safe to say that not many of the popular car Vloggers with hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of cars have ever had to worry about the roof over their heads
Michaelhunt said:
DannyDC2 is one of my favourites. He's carved a nice little niche for himself although due to that I don't think he'll be quitting his day job anytime soon!
Content is great. Yorkshire boring accent less so (lol)
Wouldn't it be great if some manufacturers or the car community got behind him so he could make some really cool stuff. That would be great. Would rather him cover a car launch than Shmee that's for sure!
Been watching him for about 6 months now.Content is great. Yorkshire boring accent less so (lol)
Wouldn't it be great if some manufacturers or the car community got behind him so he could make some really cool stuff. That would be great. Would rather him cover a car launch than Shmee that's for sure!
He's off to the Ring again in April so that should be a good watch.
Just wary that he's chasing the sub 8 min lap and he crashed last time he was there.
(Sound like his mother now!)
He doesn't take himself too seriously as is aware that his voice can be a little monotonous at times.
He just a normal bloke into his cars.
Seems to have lots of mates with units which is handy when working on cars.
He got some sponsorship for his latest video on servicing the 330d.
Online parts site supplied him with all the service items plus stuff for the DC2 in return for a mention and link.
Mercedes will be in contact next for asking him to review the latest AMG model :-)
They should be on a God given mission as most of them clearly don't need the money as they have ample trust me (if any if them are reading) you have ample. One supercar is more than enough. I'd happily tax you all 99% as PM considering people literally starve and are homeless in this very first world country.
Luckily I'm not.
But seriously why are they doing it then if they are already well off?
Luckily I'm not.
But seriously why are they doing it then if they are already well off?
Michaelhunt said:
red_slr said:
Not watched anything of his for a good few months - very much lost their way. Just new car after new car after new house. Very little actual reviews, driving etc. I remember when he did the hyper car video - that was good.
Bisforbuild is getting better too - he lost his job so putting more videos out now and trying to go full time. Has 2 project cars on the go at the moment.
DannyDC2 is putting more content out for some reason too. Which is good as plenty of us on here like his stuff. Must admit watching the drift videos I really do fancy having a go at it but the mrs would kill me if I bought another car.
DannyDC2 is one of my favourites. He's carved a nice little niche for himself although due to that I don't think he'll be quitting his day job anytime soon! Bisforbuild is getting better too - he lost his job so putting more videos out now and trying to go full time. Has 2 project cars on the go at the moment.
DannyDC2 is putting more content out for some reason too. Which is good as plenty of us on here like his stuff. Must admit watching the drift videos I really do fancy having a go at it but the mrs would kill me if I bought another car.
Content is great. Yorkshire boring accent less so (lol)
Wouldn't it be great if some manufacturers or the car community got behind him so he could make some really cool stuff. That would be great. Would rather him cover a car launch than Shmee that's for sure!
It's just something to do isn't it, and I'll admit I do get a bit of a buzz out of it. You do get the odd d
head though.Also, YouTube vlogs aren't some television drama with a complex storyline, you don't have to watch them all.
As for production values, I always feel that the Jon Olssen vlogs are mostly style over substance, with fancy filters, lens flares, camera angles and slo-mo shots filling out the content. It would be interesting to know how much extra editing and processing they take than the more simple vlogs from Shmee etc. (I heard Matt Farah saying on his podcast that most of his One Take videos only take length-of-video-plus-10-Minutes to edit.)
As for production values, I always feel that the Jon Olssen vlogs are mostly style over substance, with fancy filters, lens flares, camera angles and slo-mo shots filling out the content. It would be interesting to know how much extra editing and processing they take than the more simple vlogs from Shmee etc. (I heard Matt Farah saying on his podcast that most of his One Take videos only take length-of-video-plus-10-Minutes to edit.)
GreatGranny said:
Been watching him for about 6 months now.
He's off to the Ring again in April so that should be a good watch.
Just wary that he's chasing the sub 8 min lap and he crashed last time he was there.
(Sound like his mother now!)
He doesn't take himself too seriously as is aware that his voice can be a little monotonous at times.
He just a normal bloke into his cars.
Seems to have lots of mates with units which is handy when working on cars.
He got some sponsorship for his latest video on servicing the 330d.
Online parts site supplied him with all the service items plus stuff for the DC2 in return for a mention and link.
Mercedes will be in contact next for asking him to review the latest AMG model :-)
I think I've been watching him more or less since the beginning. Same for a lot of guys.He's off to the Ring again in April so that should be a good watch.
Just wary that he's chasing the sub 8 min lap and he crashed last time he was there.
(Sound like his mother now!)
He doesn't take himself too seriously as is aware that his voice can be a little monotonous at times.
He just a normal bloke into his cars.
Seems to have lots of mates with units which is handy when working on cars.
He got some sponsorship for his latest video on servicing the 330d.
Online parts site supplied him with all the service items plus stuff for the DC2 in return for a mention and link.
Mercedes will be in contact next for asking him to review the latest AMG model :-)
I thought the same thing about the ring lap to be honest! It's an old Honda at the end of the day. Modified for track yes but I find modified for track cars are often quite unforgiving and they are no Megane RS/Cupra that will happily lap sub 8 all day long no problems and in relative safety.
Wow. I didn't watch that video as servicing is rather boring in my eyes that plus the accent would have killed me I think
weeboot said:
I continue to really enjoy Jon Olsson's content, really nicely shot, well edited, some interesting motoring content from time to time.
Oh, and a cheeky bit of eye candy too in the form of his succesful and attractive girlfriend Janni Delér
She's certainly attractive, but they look about as much of a couple as Simon Cowell and that woman who had a baby for him and his real other half. Oh, and a cheeky bit of eye candy too in the form of his succesful and attractive girlfriend Janni Delér
I honestly don't know anyone who thinks JO is straight.
Truckosaurus said:
Also, YouTube vlogs aren't some television drama with a complex storyline, you don't have to watch them all.
As for production values, I always feel that the Jon Olssen vlogs are mostly style over substance, with fancy filters, lens flares, camera angles and slo-mo shots filling out the content. It would be interesting to know how much extra editing and processing they take than the more simple vlogs from Shmee etc. (I heard Matt Farah saying on his podcast that most of his One Take videos only take length-of-video-plus-10-Minutes to edit.)
I'm at the stage where there are so many car YouTubers out there I have to narrow down decent well polished content vs the more budget ones. As for production values, I always feel that the Jon Olssen vlogs are mostly style over substance, with fancy filters, lens flares, camera angles and slo-mo shots filling out the content. It would be interesting to know how much extra editing and processing they take than the more simple vlogs from Shmee etc. (I heard Matt Farah saying on his podcast that most of his One Take videos only take length-of-video-plus-10-Minutes to edit.)
Back on to DannyDc2 I think it's great that with his adsense revenue he went and bought a new Lumix camera for making better videos.
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