Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc???????
Discussion
JimmyConwayNW said:
I like Shmee. I didn't at first I have to admit but he has grown on me. He is one very intelligent and hard working guy who has developed a brand that has allowed him to really further his passion for cars and taken him to places and got him behind the wheel of cars he would not have been able to do.
He's probably one of the best of a very mediocre bunch IMO. If there's one thing that puts me off it's the whole "Shmee" and "Shmee-mobile" nonsense. It's like having the mentality of a 7 year old.Some of the negative comments on this thread are stupid and shows how narrow minded some people are. Why does Schmee both you.... It's really very simple don't watch his videos!
I don't watch all of his videos, I watch some. I don't like all his videos, if I don't I just stop watching them. I don't slag him off because I don't like something he is done.
He has 500000+ subscribers.... he can't please all of them all of the time.
As for him being not a good driver, whilst he is videoing his driving, he is talking, I don't want him driving fast whilst he is doing that. I am sure he drives his car quickly, but not everyone is a driving god.
Also I don't understand what the issue is with him having a custom racesuite. It's great that he is in the position to be able to get one, it's not all the gear no idea, that's his brand, thats his bread and butter..... People say he can't drive..... So you practice, ideally on a race track. So he starts driving on track, and now people are complaining about that..... He has to start somewhere.....
I'm going to start track driving in my Gt3 , I'm going to be crap at it because i've never done it before but I've got to start somewhere. I'm going to getsome instruction.... are people going to complain about me having all the gear and no idea?
As for getting cars.....
I'm sure his channel gives him a way in with manufacturers, mainly knowing whats coming up so he can ge a deposit in.
In terms of Porsche GT4 allocation anyone who put a deposit down in the first couple of weeks got one..... If you didn't thats down to your dealer.
I was 6th on the list at mine, he rang me up and said I wouldn't get one, so I pulled my deposit, that dealer ended up getting 16 and I didn't get one because I pulled my deposit. Schmee getting one had no affect on me getting one. And good on him for getting one.....
All the haters just need to stop hating. I don't like knitting videos, but I don't go slagging of the people who make knitting videos. If you don't like the videos don't watch em.
I don't watch all of his videos, I watch some. I don't like all his videos, if I don't I just stop watching them. I don't slag him off because I don't like something he is done.
He has 500000+ subscribers.... he can't please all of them all of the time.
As for him being not a good driver, whilst he is videoing his driving, he is talking, I don't want him driving fast whilst he is doing that. I am sure he drives his car quickly, but not everyone is a driving god.
Also I don't understand what the issue is with him having a custom racesuite. It's great that he is in the position to be able to get one, it's not all the gear no idea, that's his brand, thats his bread and butter..... People say he can't drive..... So you practice, ideally on a race track. So he starts driving on track, and now people are complaining about that..... He has to start somewhere.....
I'm going to start track driving in my Gt3 , I'm going to be crap at it because i've never done it before but I've got to start somewhere. I'm going to getsome instruction.... are people going to complain about me having all the gear and no idea?
As for getting cars.....
I'm sure his channel gives him a way in with manufacturers, mainly knowing whats coming up so he can ge a deposit in.
In terms of Porsche GT4 allocation anyone who put a deposit down in the first couple of weeks got one..... If you didn't thats down to your dealer.
I was 6th on the list at mine, he rang me up and said I wouldn't get one, so I pulled my deposit, that dealer ended up getting 16 and I didn't get one because I pulled my deposit. Schmee getting one had no affect on me getting one. And good on him for getting one.....
All the haters just need to stop hating. I don't like knitting videos, but I don't go slagging of the people who make knitting videos. If you don't like the videos don't watch em.
cowboyengineer said:
Some of the negative comments on this thread are stupid and shows how narrow minded some people are. Why does Schmee both you.... It's really very simple don't watch his videos!
And this is an absolutely typical PH nonsense response; no one should be allowed to air their opinions on something if they are negative.Mr2Mike said:
And this is an absolutely typical PH nonsense response; no one should be allowed to air their opinions on something if they are negative.
Well some comments are negative, which I guess are fair enough, but people personally attacking someone because they don't agree with the way he does stuff, that's just not cricket. Mr2Mike said:
cowboyengineer said:
Some of the negative comments on this thread are stupid and shows how narrow minded some people are. Why does Schmee both you.... It's really very simple don't watch his videos!
And this is an absolutely typical PH nonsense response; no one should be allowed to air their opinions on something if they are negative.
t. I am not angry or remotely jealous of him at all. I just can't stand him or what he stands for. I must be a 'hater' then.
This thread was not started for members of the Schmeee fan club after all.
SidewaysSi said:
Exactly. What a crock of st.
I am not angry or remotely jealous of him at all. I just can't stand him or what he stands for. I must be a 'hater' then.
This thread was not started for members of the Schmeee fan club after all.
I can't stand Junkman2008 on most detailing forums, but don't feel the need to abuse him on threads he replies to, maybe just grow up a little bit.t. I am not angry or remotely jealous of him at all. I just can't stand him or what he stands for. I must be a 'hater' then.
This thread was not started for members of the Schmeee fan club after all.
Tony Starks said:
SidewaysSi said:
Exactly. What a crock of st.
I am not angry or remotely jealous of him at all. I just can't stand him or what he stands for. I must be a 'hater' then.
This thread was not started for members of the Schmeee fan club after all.
I can't stand Junkman2008 on most detailing forums, but don't feel the need to abuse him on threads he replies to, maybe just grow up a little bit.t. I am not angry or remotely jealous of him at all. I just can't stand him or what he stands for. I must be a 'hater' then.
This thread was not started for members of the Schmeee fan club after all.
15HN said:
If that collector was not some dude using his press privileges to get the car then yes I would. I don't care what people do with their property it's the means under which you're acquiring the property that I'm criticising.
Fair.[quote]
To be honest the manufacturers are just as bad as you by letting you have them. I hope that they identify that in your position you've had your fair share and now its time to let the real customers have them. Your job is to provide information on them. It's not to own them thereby depriving part of your audience who have put you in the position you are in.
I doubt you will ever penetrate the Ferrari marketing machine. Their barriers will be too high. Have you been to any of their press launches?
My advice to you is if you want to be a Chris Harris then be so. If you want to be a Tom Hartley then be so. If you want to be both then I expect your credibility will be short lived.
Why would someone who loves cars, and saw a market opportunity, and fills that niche, listen to someone who tells them that if they are a car journo they are not allowed to actually own and enjoy said cars in their private life?
You do realise Harris owns and enjoys said cars in his private life also, and no doubt sells them for profit also, don't you?
Edited by twoblacklines on Sunday 10th July 12:19
The only thing that annoys me about Shmee and it is not actually Shmee's fault is, he hangs out with 5-6 youtubers - SOL, STG, Seb, MR JWW, and another guy I can't remember the name of. All in one house near Monaco.
These happen to be the best UK youtubers for cars.
The problem is, JWW aside (he is brilliant) you end up with 4 people with the SAME content. The reason I say this is not Shmee's fault, is it seems Shmee does x content and then STG, SOL and Seb (especially) just copy him. They go to the same event or they drive the same car and its just...yawn.
Only Shmee and JWW actually have supercar money which is probably why their channels are brilliant and more importantly, diverse from each other. SOL is just "I have the loudest exhaust in the world and I dress like a chav which makes supercar owners look chavvy", STG is the posh version of Shmee but has no money, which is ironically humorous, and Seb comes across as completely fake.
I feel sorry for JWW for having to put up with Seb and his exhaust drone for the whole of Gumball 3000 on top of Seb getting drunk one night when he was supposed to drive the next day and as a result, JWW missed the finish line in a car for the first time in the 6 Gumball events he has attended. In fact he appeared so pissed off that he imported his GT3 in just so he didn't have to drive back with Seb ha ha
These happen to be the best UK youtubers for cars.
The problem is, JWW aside (he is brilliant) you end up with 4 people with the SAME content. The reason I say this is not Shmee's fault, is it seems Shmee does x content and then STG, SOL and Seb (especially) just copy him. They go to the same event or they drive the same car and its just...yawn.
Only Shmee and JWW actually have supercar money which is probably why their channels are brilliant and more importantly, diverse from each other. SOL is just "I have the loudest exhaust in the world and I dress like a chav which makes supercar owners look chavvy", STG is the posh version of Shmee but has no money, which is ironically humorous, and Seb comes across as completely fake.
I feel sorry for JWW for having to put up with Seb and his exhaust drone for the whole of Gumball 3000 on top of Seb getting drunk one night when he was supposed to drive the next day and as a result, JWW missed the finish line in a car for the first time in the 6 Gumball events he has attended. In fact he appeared so pissed off that he imported his GT3 in just so he didn't have to drive back with Seb ha ha
twoblacklines said:
The only thing that annoys me about Shmee and it is not actually Shmee's fault is, he hangs out with 5-6 youtubers - SOL, STG, Seb, MR JWW, and another guy I can't remember the name of. All in one house near Monaco.
These happen to be the best UK youtubers for cars.
The problem is, JWW aside (he is brilliant) you end up with 4 people with the SAME content. The reason I say this is not Shmee's fault, is it seems Shmee does x content and then STG, SOL and Seb (especially) just copy him. They go to the same event or they drive the same car and its just...yawn.
Only Shmee and JWW actually have supercar money which is probably why their channels are brilliant and more importantly, diverse from each other. SOL is just "I have the loudest exhaust in the world and I dress like a chav which makes supercar owners look chavvy", STG is the posh version of Shmee but has no money, which is ironically humorous, and Seb comes across as completely fake.
I feel sorry for JWW for having to put up with Seb and his exhaust drone for the whole of Gumball 3000 on top of Seb getting drunk one night when he was supposed to drive the next day and as a result, JWW missed the finish line in a car for the first time in the 6 Gumball events he has attended. In fact he appeared so pissed off that he imported his GT3 in just so he didn't have to drive back with Seb ha ha
What? SOL had a lambo and now an SLS but doesn't have supercar money?These happen to be the best UK youtubers for cars.
The problem is, JWW aside (he is brilliant) you end up with 4 people with the SAME content. The reason I say this is not Shmee's fault, is it seems Shmee does x content and then STG, SOL and Seb (especially) just copy him. They go to the same event or they drive the same car and its just...yawn.
Only Shmee and JWW actually have supercar money which is probably why their channels are brilliant and more importantly, diverse from each other. SOL is just "I have the loudest exhaust in the world and I dress like a chav which makes supercar owners look chavvy", STG is the posh version of Shmee but has no money, which is ironically humorous, and Seb comes across as completely fake.
I feel sorry for JWW for having to put up with Seb and his exhaust drone for the whole of Gumball 3000 on top of Seb getting drunk one night when he was supposed to drive the next day and as a result, JWW missed the finish line in a car for the first time in the 6 Gumball events he has attended. In fact he appeared so pissed off that he imported his GT3 in just so he didn't have to drive back with Seb ha ha
STG has 'no money' ?
You realize how stupid that sounds?
Agree with some of the other comments
The most recent mr JWW video in his 675lt is great
johnwilliams77 said:
What? SOL had a lambo and now an SLS but doesn't have supercar money?
STG has 'no money' ?
You realize how stupid that sounds?
Agree with some of the other comments
The most recent mr JWW video in his 675lt is great
I'm going to guess that most intelligent PH readers understood his post as SOL and STG have just about enough money to afford deposit and monthlies on one average "super"car. Whereas JWW and Shmee have money allowing them to buy a new one each month. STG has 'no money' ?
You realize how stupid that sounds?
Agree with some of the other comments
The most recent mr JWW video in his 675lt is great
I agree with SOL but Seen Through annoying Gob is coming from a well off background I believe, but he doesn't get to use it like some other "selfmade" w
kers.Artey said:
I'm going to guess that most intelligent PH readers understood his post as SOL and STG have just about enough money to afford deposit and monthlies on one average "super"car. Whereas JWW and Shmee have money allowing them to buy a new one each month.
I agree with SOL but Seen Through annoying Gob is coming from a well off background I believe, but he doesn't get to use it like some other "selfmade" wkers.
Yes I understand that but it's a senseless comment allI agree with SOL but Seen Through annoying Gob is coming from a well off background I believe, but he doesn't get to use it like some other "selfmade" w
kers.The same
I also doubt shmee earns 200k a month
I like Shmee, once you get past the click-bait titles (which are a necessary evil if you want to be successful online). He points out little details of cars that you otherwise wouldn't see.
It seems a lot of the online rage has jealousy at the heart of it.
Shmee seems to be relatively sensible: He seems to get very good access to waitlists and limited edition cars (unsurprising - if you were a manufacturer you'd do the same), he holds the cars for a year or less, and so faces little/no depreciation on the cars he buys. Who knows, perhaps he even strikes a guaranteed buy-back arrangement with the dealer/manufacturer. So whilst he owns the cars, he's insulated from the biggest potential cost.
It seems a lot of the online rage has jealousy at the heart of it.
Shmee seems to be relatively sensible: He seems to get very good access to waitlists and limited edition cars (unsurprising - if you were a manufacturer you'd do the same), he holds the cars for a year or less, and so faces little/no depreciation on the cars he buys. Who knows, perhaps he even strikes a guaranteed buy-back arrangement with the dealer/manufacturer. So whilst he owns the cars, he's insulated from the biggest potential cost.
johnwilliams77 said:
Good video posted today by shmee
Addresses some of the comments here too
Shmee...you appear to have upped your enthusiasm?
not complaining!
Just watched and absolutely agree, he must get well pissed off with all the abuse he gets and deals with it very well.Addresses some of the comments here too
Shmee...you appear to have upped your enthusiasm?
not complaining!Focus Rs would be a great choice
And Tim, you must have spent almost as much on underground parking spaces as cars......
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