RE: Porsche 911 (991.II) Carrera: Driven

[LotusOmega375D]

ORD said:

LotusOmega375D said:

So compared to its direct rival Lotus Evora 400, the new 911 Carrera not only has less power, it's also slower, heavier and more expensive. Oh and I doubt it steers or sounds as good as the 400 either.

No doubt it will still outsell the Lotus 100 to 1!

The terribly exciting and exotic engine in the 400 is bound to sound and feel amazing.

(Sarcasm overload.)

Never heard a Camry sound like this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_zD59vn59s

[ORD]

LotusOmega375D said:

Never heard a Camry sound like this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_zD59vn59s

True. Still sounds st.

[Big Raff]

On a side note, they have fixed up the front end (running lights) to make it look much more attractive imo than the 911.1

Also I guess its just me that enjoys the kick and the woosssh of a turbo...

[TWPC]

Do Porsche or any other company offer a lower final drive ratio for manual 911s, Boxsters and Caymans?

[ORD]

Big Raff said:

On a side note, they have fixed up the front end (running lights) to make it look much more attractive imo than the 911.1

Also I guess its just me that enjoys the kick and the woosssh of a turbo as much as a powerful n/a...

No kick and whoosh here. It's made to feel as much as possible like an NA unit, it seems.

[Big Raff]

ORD said:

No kick and whoosh here. It's made to feel as much as possible like an NA unit, it seems.

Shame isn't it...at least they will be able to offer something for the next 'turbo' to do

[ORD]

Big Raff said:

Shame isn't it...at least they will be able to offer something for the next 'turbo' to do

All 911 Turbos already do that kick and whoosh thing!

[Matt Bird]

JohnGoodridge said:

Fire99 said:

You can't ignore that despite the car's virtues, there is a constant undertone of apology for the car not being quite as nice as the car it replaces.

It reminds me of Rocky 5 when the promoter is 'bigging up' Tommy Gunn. "Ok he's no Rocky Balboa, but he's still a worthy champion"

Yes. It's not as bad as it could have been, probably better than we thought it would be, but of course not as good as it was.

The manual, atmospheric, HPAS 911s is a future classic.

What he said I think!

[Matt Bird]

Wills2 said:

What's the name of that greyish colour paint, I really like it.

Yes, it's very nice! Porsche list it as Graphite Blue Metallic. Or grey...

[jamespink]

Love the Grey. Its an understated choice but some of the colours from the sixties look particularly good on modern designs.

[jamespink]

ORD said:

Big Raff said:

Shame isn't it...at least they will be able to offer something for the next 'turbo' to do

All 911 Turbos already do that kick and whoosh thing!

Like that kick and whoosh thing...

[Leggy]

ORD said:

LotusOmega375D said:

Never heard a Camry sound like this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_zD59vn59s

True. Still sounds st.

Turn your speakers on then. Seriously? What's wrong with that? Would like to hear the Porsche alongside.

[smilo996]

Four seats - tick
Looks like last year's - tick
Nice switchgear - tick

Divorced / midlife crisis - tick

It's grey, yes it is.

[ORD]

Leggy said:

Turn your speakers on then. Seriously? What's wrong with that? Would like to hear the Porsche alongside.

Typical V6 Turbo meh with a farty, fruity exhaust. Bog all character. Just loud. Contrived.

[kambites]

ORD said:

Typical V6 Turbo meh with a farty, fruity exhaust. Bog all character. Just loud. Contrived.

It's not turbocharged and it doesn't sound remotely like it is? The stereotypical exhaust note of a turbocharged car comes from the turbine interfering with the exhaust gas pulses, blurring the line between the exhaust of each cylinder; there's no fundamental difference in exhaust note between a supercharged engine and a naturally aspirated one.

I agree it's not the nicest of noises and it's too loud, but it's better than the Porsche.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 11th November 20:10

[ORD]

Ooops

Still entirely devoid of character, like a turbo. Just blare. A loud exhaust attached to a mundane engine.

[JackP1]

Thats a really dated looking Binnacle Cluster of clocks. I get the " retro " thing thats going on these days but they look pov-spec as fk.

[Wills2]

Matt Bird said:

Wills2 said:

What's the name of that greyish colour paint, I really like it.

Yes, it's very nice! Porsche list it as Graphite Blue Metallic. Or grey...

Ah so it is, thank you Matt.

[SFO]

seefarr said:

GroundEffect said:

SFO said:

the Carrera had PSE, an expensive near £1800 option

I wonder whether a non PSE car is as quiet as a Prius?

According to EVO Diary, it sounds just fine with the normal exhaust. Sounds very 335i-like actually, which was a silly loud car for a turbo I6.

And link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft6MbJsH83Q

Sounds good to me...

sounds terrible to me, contrived, monotone, dull and just like a Dyson

[Speed_Demon]

Each generation of seemingly every sports car seems to become a less sensual (oooo errr) experience but the market drives that ultimately though I can't say I'm not impressed with the mpg.

I think it looks good and is probably very quick, but I'd prefer a 997.

ORD said:

The terribly exciting and exotic engine in the 400 is bound to sound and feel amazing.

(Sarcasm overload.)

I wonder if you drive a Porsche... oh look! You do!

Edited by Speed_Demon on Wednesday 11th November 23:47

Edited by Speed_Demon on Thursday 12th November 09:04