RE: Shed Of The Week: Renault Vel Satis
Discussion
If it was working, then great shed 
As it's not, can we have a new rule that says that sheds must not have serious faults in the ad? Otherwise it's a steady downward spiral until a 911 GT3 RS is a shed (crashed, written off, all the expensive bits taken out then crushed into a 1m cube of steel, but it's a GT3 RS innit?)
If it's a struggle to find good sheds and that leads to the murky world of sheds with faults, then maybe another idea would be to have shed categories, eg:
Shed Speed (fastest car for a bag)
Shed Traffic Light Grand Prix (best 0-60)
Shed Waft (waft factor 10)
Shed Utility (tow that racecar)
Shed Handling (make that motoring journalist faint)
etc...
As it's not, can we have a new rule that says that sheds must not have serious faults in the ad? Otherwise it's a steady downward spiral until a 911 GT3 RS is a shed (crashed, written off, all the expensive bits taken out then crushed into a 1m cube of steel, but it's a GT3 RS innit?)
If it's a struggle to find good sheds and that leads to the murky world of sheds with faults, then maybe another idea would be to have shed categories, eg:
Shed Speed (fastest car for a bag)
Shed Traffic Light Grand Prix (best 0-60)
Shed Waft (waft factor 10)
Shed Utility (tow that racecar)
Shed Handling (make that motoring journalist faint)
etc...
Edited by nicfaz on Friday 20th November 11:50
Rather like the Vel Satis, a chap round the corner from me used to own one and its looks sort of grow on you. The acres of dead cow probably mean the inside is "a-nice-place-to-be". And they are huge.
That said I wouldn't touch this one with the proverbial barge propulsion device. Furked Renault diesel? No ta! The Avantime is much prettier 'n' all.
That said I wouldn't touch this one with the proverbial barge propulsion device. Furked Renault diesel? No ta! The Avantime is much prettier 'n' all.
V8 FOU said:
fix said injector, and super comfort barge.
A borked common rail diesel engine, particularly in something wearing a Renault badge, needs to be assumed to be requiring a million pounds spending on it. Joking aside, it really wouldn't take much for the repair cost to comfortably exceed the value of a running car, and you'd have all the grief of getting it sorted to boot. And it would need professional expertise which won't work cheap.It might be an injector, but it might not. And to even find out with any degree of certainty is going to cost you few quid.
peteratsylvan said:
Always loved the Avantime, but hated the Vel Satis. Anyone fancy an Avantime Spider.. 
Why have you found one aswell as that Espace thing above?This is on my "biggest dissapointments from concept" list.
I know this couldn't be built at the time of course, but it didnt even try... so headlines back in the day that showed this and said "Renault are making it!".....I'm not forgiving them.
hornetrider said:
Motorrad said:
A bizarre choice given that autotrader features 3 others at the same price that don't have stated faults
Er, not sure if serious. The whole point of shed is it's cars from the PH classifieds.I guess not then. Shame. Suddenly seems a bit less fun/informative and more like a crafty advert for the classifieds. Which I admit is stupid as it's the same articles I've been enjoying for the last god knows how long.
Back when PSA had completely lost the plot. Creativity with no mojo creates some very scary results. This was one of them.
Equally tragic, the Avantime. http://www.renaultavantime.com/uploads/images/avan...
From the company that not long before brought the world the Espace.
Equally tragic, the Avantime. http://www.renaultavantime.com/uploads/images/avan...
From the company that not long before brought the world the Espace.
smilo996 said:
Back when PSA had completely lost the plot. Creativity with no mojo creates some very scary results. This was one of them.
Equally tragic, the Avantime. http://www.renaultavantime.com/uploads/images/avan...
From the company that not long before brought the world the Espace.
I like the Avantime Equally tragic, the Avantime. http://www.renaultavantime.com/uploads/images/avan...
From the company that not long before brought the world the Espace.
I don't like the vel satis. Boring dross with nice seats
Quickmoose said:
peteratsylvan said:
Always loved the Avantime, but hated the Vel Satis. Anyone fancy an Avantime Spider..
Why have you found one aswell as that Espace thing above?This is on my "biggest dissapointments from concept" list.
I know this couldn't be built at the time of course, but it didnt even try... so headlines back in the day that showed this and said "Renault are making it!".....I'm not forgiving them.
I remember the first time I saw one, parked. And how I spent a good amount of time circling it and examining the shapes, the lines and the interior.
The French have been completely absent from the US market for decades. They simply don't offer the form factors and the powertrains required for that market. But the Avantime... well, she might have been well received there.
Cars like these -- the Avantime and the Vel Satis -- always remind me of a certain pre-War modernism advanced by the likes of Le Corbusier as well as the author of GM's Futurama, Norman Bel Geddes.
Regarding the latter, his film for the 1939 World's Fair, in New York, is a gem of car culture utopia.
ps: If you cannot watch the whole thing, begin that film (my last link) from the 11:15 mark.
Edited by unsprung on Friday 20th November 13:12
I would.
I had one of these when they were launched a company car - Renault dealers had sharpened their pencils to get them on the road so the lease deals were good.
I don't mind the looks, however in any case I'm more concerned with function - I can't see the outside of the car when I'm driving it and the inside is a lovely place. Roomy, well equipped, seats that were more comfortable than Saab's, quiet, big boot. As a motorway weapon it was fine. It wasn't a sports car (or designed to be one) but it handled tidily enough
On rough roads the ride was rubbish though - downside of the suspension trying to control that large body (and this is a large car in the flesh). What stopped me buying it for a song at the end of the lease was the cost risk. During my 60K mile ownership it had a new gearbox, four sets of front tyres, three master cylinders (it only needed one, had the dealer known how to fit it!) two sets of brake discs and the exhaust fell off (bad weld). The tech worked fine though, including the new fangled credit card ignition key.
Of all the company cars I've owned, this is the one that I look back on fondly and think "if only........"
I had one of these when they were launched a company car - Renault dealers had sharpened their pencils to get them on the road so the lease deals were good.
I don't mind the looks, however in any case I'm more concerned with function - I can't see the outside of the car when I'm driving it and the inside is a lovely place. Roomy, well equipped, seats that were more comfortable than Saab's, quiet, big boot. As a motorway weapon it was fine. It wasn't a sports car (or designed to be one) but it handled tidily enough
On rough roads the ride was rubbish though - downside of the suspension trying to control that large body (and this is a large car in the flesh). What stopped me buying it for a song at the end of the lease was the cost risk. During my 60K mile ownership it had a new gearbox, four sets of front tyres, three master cylinders (it only needed one, had the dealer known how to fit it!) two sets of brake discs and the exhaust fell off (bad weld). The tech worked fine though, including the new fangled credit card ignition key.
Of all the company cars I've owned, this is the one that I look back on fondly and think "if only........"
ked was my point. If a non fubared vel shatis wasn't available post something else.This is defo in my list of 'like it, but really do not know why' cars, it has a strange appeal. Probably a topic discussed a million times on PH already however I do find it a hugely unappealing prospect when traders start putting in disclaimers on the advert, 'no after sales / warranty given' etc we are changing our phone number and location after selling this vehicle etc etc. Makes me wonder if it'll even make it round the block on the test drive...
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