Appealing a Speed Camera Fine

Appealing a Speed Camera Fine

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thebraketester

14,246 posts

139 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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I get the sat nav thing. Not to the point of it stopping me driving a car without it but I find its a great driving aid.

focusxr5

328 posts

117 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Sump said:
So what? I don't feel comfortable in a poor mans car..
And the award for the most Pompous post of the year goes to......................

divetheworld

2,565 posts

136 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Iva Barchetta said:
Someone else has your number plate.
Or.
They've misread the plate on the speeding car.
Or
Someone was driving your car and needs to 'fess up
Added the one you missed. Check that picture and be sure before going off half cocked.
You might find that the right course of action is proving it wasn't you driving with evidence that you were elsewhere. Then providing argument that it wasn't your wife.
Just incase.

danzman1991

318 posts

137 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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You need to call the number on the letter and explain.

No other combination of words from a user on here will change that!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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ferrariF50lover said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
So what? His wife feels uncomfortable in a car without satnav. It's a free world, and her particular foibles don't harm anyone else.
How on earth can you not understand that this is a perfectly valid thing to question?
Especially given the context...

"My car was in the drive at home, and my wife was at home - but she couldn't POSSIBLY have been driving it when the pic was taken, because she won't drive anything without SatNav..."

I'd quite like to see the result of that being introduced as a defence in court, tbh...

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

248 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Andyandyhall said:
I've just been sent a Speeding notice from Essex Police, it's from a fixed camera but I dont think it is correct.
My car was parked on the drive all day so something must be wrong, however the details on the notice match our car.

Any ideas what to do next, I'm struggling for proof, I was in my office that day and my wife won't drive this car because it doesn't have satnav.

Anyone know of a situation where the camera has got the wrong car?
So is the location of the camera a place where either you or your wife could have been photographed? Ie, is it somewhere either of you do go on occasion?

Or is it somewhere that it's Infeasible that you could have been at that time?

A cloned car is unlikely to be in the same area that the real car is being used. Not impossible, but unlikely.





btcc123

1,243 posts

148 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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focusxr5 said:
Sump said:
So what? I don't feel comfortable in a poor mans car..
And the award for the most Pompous post of the year goes to......................
+1

ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

227 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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TTmonkey said:
So is the location of the camera a place where either you or your wife could have been photographed? Ie, is it somewhere either of you do go on occasion?

Or is it somewhere that it's Infeasible that you could have been at that time?

A cloned car is unlikely to be in the same area that the real car is being used. Not impossible, but unlikely.
To add weight to the "unlikely" side of the argument...

I once had a plate cloned. I am certain, although cannot prove, that it happened while the car was parked in Cambridge for the one and only day I have ever spent there.
A few weeks later I got a s. 172 through saying I'd been caught by a fixed camera on a Tuesday evening about 2145 in Cambridge town centre.
That didn't make the first ounce of sense, so I checked my records and found that A) I'd had my private plate on the car for at least a fortnight before the ticket arrived and B) I was actually live on Sky Sports about 2 minutes AFTER the offence was committed and I was at an event some 50 miles from Cambridge.

Wrote a letter to the Cambs police explaining the situation and asking for the pictures to see if they'd help. They didn't ID the driver but did show subtle differences between the bandito car and mine. A while later I got a letter from Cambs five-oh telling me they'd investigated and found mine a likely story. I kept it in the car with me and waved it at any copper who stopped me. Meant each "we're just checking your identity, sir" stop took about 30 seconds.


Andyandyhall

Original Poster:

104 posts

139 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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Update

On contacting the office which has administers the fines it appears that it is not a 'missread' but the photographed vehicle is a 4x4 whereas our car is a Golf so it's not us speeding.

Good news-no fine
Bad news- Our plate may have been 'cloned'

The speed enforcement office will contact Essex Police to let them know, not sure what happens now. It was lucky the other vehicle wasn't a Golf as that could've posed a major problem proving it wasn't our car. The car is a '65 plate and was registered 1st oct so the whole thing seems a bit unusual.

Thanks for the advice.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,402 posts

151 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
ferrariF50lover said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
So what? His wife feels uncomfortable in a car without satnav. It's a free world, and her particular foibles don't harm anyone else.
How on earth can you not understand that this is a perfectly valid thing to question?
Especially given the context...

"My car was in the drive at home, and my wife was at home - but she couldn't POSSIBLY have been driving it when the pic was taken, because she won't drive anything without SatNav..."

I'd quite like to see the result of that being introduced as a defence in court, tbh...
I'm not sure he was planning to use it as a case for the defence, just as a way of explaining to us why he knew it wasn't his wife driving.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm not sure he was planning to use it as a case for the defence, just as a way of explaining to us why he knew it wasn't his wife driving.
If he's going to fight the ticket, then it's not us he needs to convince... If he's got a better explanation than that, why keep it secret?

lostkiwi

4,584 posts

125 months

Tuesday 24th November 2015
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TooMany2cvs said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
I'm not sure he was planning to use it as a case for the defence, just as a way of explaining to us why he knew it wasn't his wife driving.
If he's going to fight the ticket, then it's not us he needs to convince... If he's got a better explanation than that, why keep it secret?
Keep up at the back - its already been pretty much sorted. See the OPs update.

Johnd52

101 posts

117 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Related to this, it seems pretty dumb to fit a copy plate to different model vehicle. Rather misses the point of cloning.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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Sump said:
So what? I don't feel comfortable in a poor mans car..

I'm sure she could drive it if it was necessary.
Some people are so poor all they have is money.

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

164 months

Wednesday 25th November 2015
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I was wondering whether the dealer or manufacturer may have fitted the same plate to 2 cars,seeing as the OPs car is so new.

OP doesn't specify what make the 4x4 is with his plate on.