Are Range Rovers in fact rubbish?
Discussion
Slow said:
Lexus wont tow 3.5ton, believe they are down at 2ton like estates. No where near as nice inside and doesnt have the aerodynamics of a shed.
Well towing wasn't mentioned but it is a valid point. I think the interiors are on a par, at least in terms of quality. The RX450h is still pretty shedlike.I think my point is that Lexus have tried - and got a decent result. Land Rover don't seem to have bothered at all.
AnotherClarkey said:
Slow said:
Lexus wont tow 3.5ton, believe they are down at 2ton like estates. No where near as nice inside and doesnt have the aerodynamics of a shed.
Well towing wasn't mentioned but it is a valid point. I think the interiors are on a par, at least in terms of quality. The RX450h is still pretty shedlike.I think my point is that Lexus have tried - and got a decent result. Land Rover don't seem to have bothered at all.
The car is £100k, are you bothered about fuel? Buy the diesel. If not bothered buy a great big gas guzzling petrol.
There isnt a huge need for a efficiant petrol.
AnotherClarkey said:
Slow said:
Lexus wont tow 3.5ton, believe they are down at 2ton like estates. No where near as nice inside and doesnt have the aerodynamics of a shed.
Well towing wasn't mentioned but it is a valid point. I think the interiors are on a par, at least in terms of quality. The RX450h is still pretty shedlike.I think my point is that Lexus have tried - and got a decent result. Land Rover don't seem to have bothered at all.
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Slow said:
lostkiwi said:
He said not diesel.
Slow said:
They just dont need too.
The car is £100k, are you bothered about fuel? Buy the diesel. If not bothered buy a great big gas guzzling petrol.
There isnt a huge need for a efficiant petrol.
Not joking. My FF is more efficient than the 5.0l supercharged was! (a car specifically designed without an mpg readout...)The car is £100k, are you bothered about fuel? Buy the diesel. If not bothered buy a great big gas guzzling petrol.
There isnt a huge need for a efficiant petrol.
AnotherClarkey said:
Willy Nilly said:
HannsG said:
Is there a petrol variant with 30mpg capability yet?
Sick of diesels.
How are you going to get 30mpg in a vehicle that weighs 2.5 tonnes, is 4wd, automatic and has the aerodynamics of a shed? If fuel consumption is an issue, then a Range Rover probably isn't the right car for you. Sick of diesels.
king DPF lostkiwi said:
IroningMan said:
lostkiwi said:
You sit higher so can see over hedgerows. They have long travel suspension so soak up the bumps very well. Evoque aside they have large interiors (RR is MUCH larger than any estate inside). They can tow more (3500kg limit). They will cope with almost any unexpected weather conditions. And they're a nice relaxing place to be.
As a private ownership prospect they knock spots of a 7 series, XJ, A8 or S-Class saloon in pretty much every respect.That being said, the high up seating position reduces fatigue massively, and in my opinion more than makes up for the difference in interior finish (even though of course the RR is a very high quality interior) with the S-Class.
Willy Nilly said:
HannsG said:
Is there a petrol variant with 30mpg capability yet?
Sick of diesels.
How are you going to get 30mpg in a vehicle that weighs 2.5 tonnes, is 4wd, automatic and has the aerodynamics of a shed? If fuel consumption is an issue, then a Range Rover probably isn't the right car for you. Sick of diesels.
the deprication and other costs must dwarf the difference in MPG anyway ,unless you do a huge annual mileage...
powerstroke said:
Willy Nilly said:
HannsG said:
Is there a petrol variant with 30mpg capability yet?
Sick of diesels.
How are you going to get 30mpg in a vehicle that weighs 2.5 tonnes, is 4wd, automatic and has the aerodynamics of a shed? If fuel consumption is an issue, then a Range Rover probably isn't the right car for you. Sick of diesels.
the deprication and other costs must dwarf the difference in MPG anyway ,unless you do a huge annual mileage...
Willy Nilly said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Willy Nilly said:
HannsG said:
Is there a petrol variant with 30mpg capability yet?
Sick of diesels.
How are you going to get 30mpg in a vehicle that weighs 2.5 tonnes, is 4wd, automatic and has the aerodynamics of a shed? If fuel consumption is an issue, then a Range Rover probably isn't the right car for you. Sick of diesels.
Haven't driven a Rangey TDV8 but if it had anything like the poke and the sound of the V8 oil burner in my car I wouldn't be disappointed in it. I certainly don't feel short changed driving my car after getting out of my parents L405 supercharged
sealtt said:
I would also say that, whilst none of the others do, the S-Class does out class the RR for quality of interior. The new S-Class interior is unbelievable, probably the best of any car on the market when spec'd up a little.
That being said, the high up seating position reduces fatigue massively, and in my opinion more than makes up for the difference in interior finish (even though of course the RR is a very high quality interior) with the S-Class.
Your experience trumps my assumption - but arrive behind the wheel of an S-Class saloon, in the UK at any rate, and everyone will think you're someone's driver...That being said, the high up seating position reduces fatigue massively, and in my opinion more than makes up for the difference in interior finish (even though of course the RR is a very high quality interior) with the S-Class.
IroningMan said:
Your experience trumps my assumption - but arrive behind the wheel of an S-Class saloon, in the UK at any rate, and everyone will think you're someone's driver...
I'd have to say that GENERALLY the interior of my Range Rovers has been the least problematic element of the cars. Nice place to be.
I wn a 2007 Supercharged L322 and really cannot ever see any other car bettering what a Range Rover does as a complete package.
I once mentioned, some years ago, that I couldn't see the point of anyone owning a Land Rover product and not taking it off-road. It seemed such a waste, but I think much differently now.
My Defender works incredibly well off-road and it's not so bad on it after a few tweaks here and there.
But a Range Rover, as others have said, is such an incredibly nice place to be in all weather conditions. You're up high, so there's minimal headlight dazzling. The seats are incredibly comfortable and there's an immense amount of space everywhere for everyone and everything. There's decent oomph should you need it and they feel secure on the road.
As a motorway cruiser, they're fantastic things. They cocoon and isolate you from the road, weather and external noise (my model is double-glazed - a standard fitment) and yet can whizz around backroads with some degree of enjoyment. I find myself not wishing to drive too fast. Both Range Rovers that I have owned have had a calming effect on my driving style.
Mine doesn't go round corners as well as our E55, for example, but that doesn't really matter and it's quite entertaining in an old-school kind of way. An X5 left me for dead on a twisty stretch once, I'll freely admit, but a RR isn't the kind of car one hoons around in.
Fuel economy isn't really so bad. I much prefer the immediecy of the SC engine over the 3.6 TDV8 that mine was sold alongside at the time. There's much apparent division between petrol vs diesel and I mostly favour petrol for my own reasons.
I did once look to change mine and was seriously considering an A8 or an S-Class. Both left me cold. The S-Class had the 5 or 5.5 V8 in it and went well and had a most fantastic interior. The A8 felt more sporty. Both looked great. But neither had the soul of a Range Rover and so no purchase was made. I like Mercedes a lot and do own two other models, so I'm no hater.
Reliability? I hear they go wrong. Don't all cars from time to time?
I've no major beef with any of the competition, but I'll never own one of them. It's not to say they're poor in any way, but more that I think the RR is just such a complete car that I have no desire to buy anything else in its place.
I once mentioned, some years ago, that I couldn't see the point of anyone owning a Land Rover product and not taking it off-road. It seemed such a waste, but I think much differently now.
My Defender works incredibly well off-road and it's not so bad on it after a few tweaks here and there.
But a Range Rover, as others have said, is such an incredibly nice place to be in all weather conditions. You're up high, so there's minimal headlight dazzling. The seats are incredibly comfortable and there's an immense amount of space everywhere for everyone and everything. There's decent oomph should you need it and they feel secure on the road.
As a motorway cruiser, they're fantastic things. They cocoon and isolate you from the road, weather and external noise (my model is double-glazed - a standard fitment) and yet can whizz around backroads with some degree of enjoyment. I find myself not wishing to drive too fast. Both Range Rovers that I have owned have had a calming effect on my driving style.
Mine doesn't go round corners as well as our E55, for example, but that doesn't really matter and it's quite entertaining in an old-school kind of way. An X5 left me for dead on a twisty stretch once, I'll freely admit, but a RR isn't the kind of car one hoons around in.
Fuel economy isn't really so bad. I much prefer the immediecy of the SC engine over the 3.6 TDV8 that mine was sold alongside at the time. There's much apparent division between petrol vs diesel and I mostly favour petrol for my own reasons.
I did once look to change mine and was seriously considering an A8 or an S-Class. Both left me cold. The S-Class had the 5 or 5.5 V8 in it and went well and had a most fantastic interior. The A8 felt more sporty. Both looked great. But neither had the soul of a Range Rover and so no purchase was made. I like Mercedes a lot and do own two other models, so I'm no hater.
Reliability? I hear they go wrong. Don't all cars from time to time?
I've no major beef with any of the competition, but I'll never own one of them. It's not to say they're poor in any way, but more that I think the RR is just such a complete car that I have no desire to buy anything else in its place.
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