RE: Volkswagen Golf GTI Clubsport: Driven
Discussion
Dapster said:
VW know what they're doing here and presumably anything "more Clubsport" ie no nav, no rear seat, perspex windows, harnesses etc is either totally off brand and therefore a non starter, or research shows would deter customers.
It doesn't need to be THAT hardcore, they can keep nav as it weights nothing and loosing the rear seats on a practical hot hatch is always a stupid idea IMO. What they could have done is lost a bit of weight elsewhere, say 50-100kgs, maybe add a few trick carbon bits, add a proper lsd and remap it to move the powerband up a bit to give it some more useful fizz at the top end of the rev range. Would transform a pretty dull car to something that was bit more exciting, hell I'd even consider buying one if they'd done that and that's from someone who finds the current Golf very bland.andrewparker said:
Quhet said:
All that talk of the seats and we don't get a picture.
I am disapoint.
There's a picture of the seats for me...I am disapoint.
Quite surprised they're doing a 5 door in this. Still not quite sure why you wouldn't choose an R though.
I'm on the fence with this one, I like some of the styling tweaks but on the darker colours more otherwise I think they stand out too much.
A cop out to stick the R wheels on it though (forged wheels available) but I bet most people will want the bigger 19" option.
As an R owner I'm sure it will match it for pace, a chunky weight saving and pretty much identical output.
If I knew there was a 5 door available (which I hadn't realised) then would I have waited for this? Not sure personally, I like that the R is a bit more "grown up" and certainly in this time of year the AWD is priceless.
Want those seats and steering wheel though!
A cop out to stick the R wheels on it though (forged wheels available) but I bet most people will want the bigger 19" option.
As an R owner I'm sure it will match it for pace, a chunky weight saving and pretty much identical output.
If I knew there was a 5 door available (which I hadn't realised) then would I have waited for this? Not sure personally, I like that the R is a bit more "grown up" and certainly in this time of year the AWD is priceless.
Want those seats and steering wheel though!
aka_kerrly said:
If you look at the relative prices of previous anniversary model Golfs you will see people are prepared to spend a premium to have a limited edition.
It's a shame that VW have toned down the "clubsport" aspect of this car as I would wager that the majority of owners will be intent on keeping them completely original.
I'd have preferred to see no rear seats, a mechanical slip diff & brembos
But surely if its more expensive to buy in the first place you'd expect a similair premium to buy second hand.It's a shame that VW have toned down the "clubsport" aspect of this car as I would wager that the majority of owners will be intent on keeping them completely original.
I'd have preferred to see no rear seats, a mechanical slip diff & brembos
It does seem a missed opportunity IMHO, sure they will sell though, just think the opportunity was there to make something genuinely special. Better to have more choice than less though but I'd just go for an R at that price point.
First things first. This will sell out regardless of what its like.
Thats very nice, only two exhaust pipes thankfully. It looks good, the seats look great as do the rear spoiler and the wheel. Other than that not a whole pile of difference. I like it, not in a position to buy one so doesn't bother me too much. Power wise it will be ok, the standard GTI seemingly does well with less.
Thats very nice, only two exhaust pipes thankfully. It looks good, the seats look great as do the rear spoiler and the wheel. Other than that not a whole pile of difference. I like it, not in a position to buy one so doesn't bother me too much. Power wise it will be ok, the standard GTI seemingly does well with less.
Whilst I like it I cannot help thinking it was a missed opportunity
Rather than filling a gap between regular GTi and R they should have gone off at a tangent and lived up to its name - lighter, harder, more compromised - it would still be a sell out but would offer something fundamentally different to whats already on offer from the GTi and R
Rather than filling a gap between regular GTi and R they should have gone off at a tangent and lived up to its name - lighter, harder, more compromised - it would still be a sell out but would offer something fundamentally different to whats already on offer from the GTi and R
I think it would have been nice if they really had taken it a step further but I guess VW as always didn't want to do anything to stop people buying them - look at the problem Renault had shifting R26-Rs
Interestingly, the front brake setup doesn't look silly expensive to retrofit:
Calipers 349.23+VAT ea
Discs 191.60+VAT ea
Hoses 76.90+VAT ea
Pads 222.83+VAT/set
Sensor 6.66+VAT
That's about 1500 quid+VAT in bits, maybe another 50-100 for bolts and minor brackets/clips.
I couldn't find a price quickly for a Golf 7 but Brembo's GT kit for the Golf 6 is about 3 grand...
Interestingly, the front brake setup doesn't look silly expensive to retrofit:
Calipers 349.23+VAT ea
Discs 191.60+VAT ea
Hoses 76.90+VAT ea
Pads 222.83+VAT/set
Sensor 6.66+VAT
That's about 1500 quid+VAT in bits, maybe another 50-100 for bolts and minor brackets/clips.
I couldn't find a price quickly for a Golf 7 but Brembo's GT kit for the Golf 6 is about 3 grand...
I'd like to see how much faster it actually is than a regular GTI (with performance pack) also on the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2s. Not much I suspect?
Also s mentioned, it's really just a nice trim-package and shouldn't be called 'Clubsport', but rather should be Edition 40 to celebrate it's** birthday.
With the well know abundance of R's soon to be flooding the market, I'm sure there are great deals to be had on new R's from VW, realistically making it a hard case to actually buy a clubsport over an R. Especially if VW make the seats an available option for the R too going forward, which I also can see the doing.
Also s mentioned, it's really just a nice trim-package and shouldn't be called 'Clubsport', but rather should be Edition 40 to celebrate it's** birthday.
With the well know abundance of R's soon to be flooding the market, I'm sure there are great deals to be had on new R's from VW, realistically making it a hard case to actually buy a clubsport over an R. Especially if VW make the seats an available option for the R too going forward, which I also can see the doing.
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