Asymmetrical Car Designs

[xRIEx]

996TT02 said:

All of them. Except the Mclaren F1 and the Ariel Atom.

You know why...

I don't know why you'd consider the atom to be symmetrical if you're referring to the F1 for its central driving position.

[ajprice]

Sub G1. Another one with the engine by the side of the driver, and this one's a 3 wheeler.

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5358/

[kambites]

ajprice said:

Sub G1. Another one with the engine by the side of the driver, and this one's a 3 wheeler.

http://www.gizmag.com/go/5358/

That's rather lovely but $80k!

[blearyeyedboy]

[MarshPhantom]

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[Rostfritt]

243 said:

These annoy me. Slightly offset just looks rubbish, either move it entirely to one side or make it central. Korea have been using wide European plates for several years now after changing from US size ones, so they can't even use that as an excuse.

[steveo3002]

M4cruiser said:

djstevec said:

balls-out said:

marmitemania said:

This car sprang to mind straight away. Do you know why?

Wheelbase different on either side?

Amc pacer had driver and passenger doors a different size

Renault 6 had differing wheelbases too no?

Yes it did, and it showed up in the bodywork too:-

whats the story behind that then?

[rohrl]

[996TT02]

xRIEx said:

996TT02 said:

All of them. Except the Mclaren F1 and the Ariel Atom.

You know why...

I don't know why you'd consider the atom to be symmetrical if you're referring to the F1 for its central driving position.

Lapsus, did not give the matter sufficent thought.

Add Bac Mono to the mix, too.

[996TT02]

steveo3002 said:

M4cruiser said:

whats the story behind that then?

Yes I wonder too.

At a guess, suspension setup.

At the front I can understand drive shaft issues, at the rear, not so simple, when FWD.

[RizzoTheRat]

Torsion bar suspension, the bar runs right across the width of the car, so they have one bar behind the other but the trialing arms the same length, so one wheel is slightly ahead of the other.

[M4cruiser]

RizzoTheRat said:

Torsion bar suspension, the bar runs right across the width of the car, so they have one bar behind the other but the trialing arms the same length, so one wheel is slightly ahead of the other.

Very well explained! You need the bar that long to have the right amount of flex, otherwise the suspension would be too hard.

One reason (I'm guessing) is it's cheaper than the proper way of doing it, which is to gear the lateral torsion bar in the middle and send the twisting action back to the side it came from (there must be a proper name for that?). That would be symmetrical but more expensive.... it's a Renault after all.

[RizzoTheRat]

Presumably that would also be heavier and less reliable than having the bar right across

[Mr2Mike]

M4cruiser said:

Very well explained! You need the bar that long to have the right amount of flex, otherwise the suspension would be too hard.

One reason (I'm guessing) is it's cheaper than the proper way of doing it, which is to gear the lateral torsion bar in the middle and send the twisting action back to the side it came from (there must be a proper name for that?). That would be symmetrical but more expensive.... it's a Renault after all.

Peugeot/Citroen managed to make a torsion beam work properly without any of this complexity or asymmetry. You simply attach the torsion bar either slightly ahead or slightly behind the trailing arm pivot (so it describes a small arc in operation) and you get full length torsion bars, and you can also fit an anti-roll bar between the trailing arm pivots.

[djdest]

Couldn't see this one mentioned, I probably missed it though

[bencollins]

[Muddle238]

I present you with;



The mighty Perodua Kenari. Isn't that just the most tragic thing you've ever seen.

[Noesph]

bencollins said:

Cubes where sided for the country there where in too.